You know MM, Your seeming to want to make this an argument about homosexuality being a sin... I'm not arguing that it's a sin.... I will argue that a passing desire is not sin but rather a temptation though.
A homosexual goes about without any law. As I reminded you of Romans 2:12 first half of the verse.
I disagree. They are a law unto themselves. They can do what is in the law or violate the law of moses just as easily as a Jew and without ever seeing "The Law"...
Anyway, I think we're getting away from the jist of what Paul is trying to convey in Romans 2. He's not trying to prove how "wrong" those without the law are (as it appears your using his passages for), he's trying to show that those who "have" the "Law" are still "
in Adam" so before we get to thinking we're any better than anyone else, we'd better re-evaluate where it is we've came from as we're reminded of the responsibility that we've been given because there's a new Adam in town, and his name is Jesus and it marks a new beginning with the new covenant.
It is not a matter of condeming sin. It is a matter of looking for an opportunity to help someone out of sin.
I agree with this, and this is where my emphasis has been. You see, we don't need to condemn sin, because sin is already condemned...
The huge problem is, that homosexuals are void in their minds of any righteous judgement.
Here is where we disagree. Homosexuals can hold righteous judgments, but just like "christians', they can err. You seem to think that all homosexuals are void in their minds of any righteous judgment. That my brother is a blanket statement and honestly, it isn't a true statement. Now then, while it's true that some homosexuals are void, the same can be said of liars and thieves. But some does not mean all and I am not talking about all. If however, you want to talk about "those", your not going to get an argument out of me other than to say what a tragedy, we need to pray for them.
One who will humble themselves, is someone you can work with and pray for.
I agree, but by who's standard and to whom must they humble themselves? Lets say for instance that one person has been called to be a light for the homosexual, while another has been called to be a light for the brotherhood. Don't you think that the one that's called to the brotherhood wouldn't do as well with homosexuals? Now then, both agree that this sin is serious, but both of them may take very different approaches when preaching to the homosexual.
It's fine to say that homosexuality is a sin, but if preaching to the homosexual's isn't your calling, then it's not your calling and you should be careful of what you say when talking to a homosexual, lest they misunderstand you and their hearts become hard.
