-How Does God Desire The Keeping Of HIS &th Day Sabbath-

[JLB]

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One way I like to take my day off is to take some cured Mesquite wood and get the fire just right, then put on some Baby Back ribs for about 2 hours.

Then after you have a good smoke ring on them, wrap them in foil and put in the oven on 225 for another 3 hours.

Those three hours are a good time to take a nap.

Then, when their done, you've got some finger licking, good stuff.

Nothing like baby Back Ribs on a Saturday afternoon.


JLB

 

[Elijah674]

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Ceremonial law keeping is not the measure of love for God that counts. The
measure of one's love for God is their love for others, not whether they
are circumcised, or keep a Sabbath, or a Festival, etc.

Now this is rather interesting - please notice where I've placed emphasizes on in your statement by the letters in Bold.

Let's examine showing Love, and a certain example Jesus gave concerning the Commandments (not ceremonial).

Mathew 22:37 Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’[d] 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’[e] 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.â€

There were some asking Jesus which was the Greatest Commandment?

And what did Jesus do with the question? Well, he played a trick on them ... how so?

Upon close examination we see that Jesus simply abbreviated or summarized the commandments into two parts. The first and great commandment is to love God. This incorporates no other gods, no idols, not using his name in vain and the Sabbath.

The second commandment is respect your parents, no murdering, no infidelity, no lying, no stealing and no lusting.

This is how you show Love.

If you don't see the clarity in this, it's because you don't want to. And that's ok with me, no offense taken since they are not MY commandments;)

There are those of us who see the clarity of your statements...

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

It is all about love! And this love is no mush mush! See Daniel 3:14-18. (you might do the extra lead?)

--Elijah

 

[reba]

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Thanks Guys

 

[Elijah674]

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Isa. 58:12-14 says it this way...
[12] And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

[14] [Then shalt] thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

--Elijah

 

[Jethro Bodine]

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[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

Help me out here. I know about the gathering of wood, lighting fires, and not going out of your house, but does it say in the law that not "speaking thine own words" is one of the Sabbath requirements?

 

[Elijah674]

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[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

Help me out here. I know about the gathering of wood, lighting fires, and not going out of your house, but does it say in the law that not "speaking thine own words" is one of the Sabbath requirements?

I don't trust your inquired question? To be asking the question for selfish reasons is not in the 'Spirit' of God. (Or LOVE!) And it is because of your attitude of other posts that gives me this thinking of your Jehovah Witness endearment? (and that is a question)

But just 'if' you are asking a sincere question, about speaking your own words? yes, the Lords day is time to learn, worship, and if the ox is in the ditch...we just leave him there, huh? And yes the Lord says that it is ok to do good deeds + even getting food from our neighbors 'CORNFIELD!' of His day for worship. And of course these are the Jewish nation that Christ is talking about. (see Lev. 19:10)
And it was because Israel became obsessed with every detail that Christ gave this truth. (see Matt. 23:1-2)

--Elijah

 

[JLB]

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[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

Help me out here. I know about the gathering of wood, lighting fires, and not going out of your house, but does it say in the law that not "speaking thine own words" is one of the Sabbath requirements?

I don't trust your inquired question? To be asking the question for selfish reasons is not in the 'Spirit' of God. (Or LOVE!) And it is because of your attitude of other posts that gives me this thinking of your Jehovah Witness endearment? (and that is a question)

But just 'if' you are asking a sincere question, about speaking your own words? yes, the Lords day is time to learn, worship, and if the ox is in the ditch...we just leave him there, huh? And yes the Lord says that it is ok to do good deeds + even getting food from our neighbors 'CORNFIELD!' of His day for worship. And of course these are the Jewish nation that Christ is talking about. (see Lev. 19:10)
And it was because Israel became obsessed with every detail that Christ gave this truth. (see Matt. 23:1-2)

--Elijah

Would the Sabbath day requirements apply to Gentiles living in China?

JLB

 

[Jethro Bodine]

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[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

Help me out here. I know about the gathering of wood, lighting fires, and not going out of your house, but does it say in the law that not "speaking thine own words" is one of the Sabbath requirements?

I don't trust your inquired question?

You are wise. Lol.

To be asking the question for selfish reasons is not in the 'Spirit' of God. (Or LOVE!) And it is because of your attitude of other posts that gives me this thinking of your Jehovah Witness endearment? (and that is a question)

Well, I'm not JW, lol. (I eat them for lunch, lol...kidding, of course). And I wasn't baiting you for selfish reasons but for the sake of showing how God is teaching his people about true fasting, and the true Sabbath Rest of God for man...rest and fasting from sin.

The literal Sabbath was/is a shadow of the rest God has provided at the end of mankind's struggle of Christ-less sin, but which was established from creation. When we believe we enter into that rest and cease from the labors of our fallen nature and the unceasing whip of the taskmaster of sin.

16 Or why was I not hidden away in the ground like a stillborn child,
like an infant who never saw the light of day?
17 There the wicked cease from turmoil,
and there the weary are at rest.
18 Captives also enjoy their ease;
they no longer hear the slave driver’s shout.
19 The small and the great are there,
and the slaves are freed from their owners.
(Job 3:16-19 NIV)

When we lie down in peace in the shadows of death, death in Christ, we no longer hear the slave drivers call and enter into the true Day of rest and peace of God has appointed for mankind--for those who believe.

But, if you want to keep a literal Sabbath, that's cool, too.

 

[Elijah674]

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You are wise. Lol.

To be asking the question for selfish reasons is not in the 'Spirit' of God. (Or LOVE!) And it is because of your attitude of other posts that gives me this thinking of your Jehovah Witness endearment? (and that is a question)

Well, I'm not JW, lol. (I eat them for lunch, lol...kidding, of course). And I wasn't baiting you for selfish reasons but for the sake of showing how God is teaching his people about true fasting, and the true Sabbath Rest of God for man...rest and fasting from sin.

The literal Sabbath was/is a shadow of the rest God has provided at the end of mankind's struggle of Christ-less sin, but which was established from creation. When we believe we enter into that rest and cease from the labors of our fallen nature and the unceasing whip of the taskmaster of sin.

16 Or why was I not hidden away in the ground like a stillborn child,
like an infant who never saw the light of day?
17 There the wicked cease from turmoil,
and there the weary are at rest.
18 Captives also enjoy their ease;
they no longer hear the slave driver’s shout.
19 The small and the great are there,
and the slaves are freed from their owners.
(Job 3:16-19 NIV)

When we lie down in peace in the shadows of death, death in Christ, we no longer hear the slave drivers call and enter into the true Day of rest and peace of God has appointed for mankind--for those who believe.

But, if you want to keep a literal Sabbath, that's cool, too.

So you call ALL of the justified executed ones by Christ as being another slave drivers??
How about the ones who did not enter the Ark while the Holy Spirit was STRIVING with then for 120 years young'in!

--Elijah

 

[JLB]

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You are wise. Lol.

To be asking the question for selfish reasons is not in the 'Spirit' of God. (Or LOVE!) And it is because of your attitude of other posts that gives me this thinking of your Jehovah Witness endearment? (and that is a question)

Well, I'm not JW, lol. (I eat them for lunch, lol...kidding, of course). And I wasn't baiting you for selfish reasons but for the sake of showing how God is teaching his people about true fasting, and the true Sabbath Rest of God for man...rest and fasting from sin.

The literal Sabbath was/is a shadow of the rest God has provided at the end of mankind's struggle of Christ-less sin, but which was established from creation. When we believe we enter into that rest and cease from the labors of our fallen nature and the unceasing whip of the taskmaster of sin.

16 Or why was I not hidden away in the ground like a stillborn child,
like an infant who never saw the light of day?
17 There the wicked cease from turmoil,
and there the weary are at rest.
18 Captives also enjoy their ease;
they no longer hear the slave driver’s shout.
19 The small and the great are there,
and the slaves are freed from their owners.
(Job 3:16-19 NIV)

When we lie down in peace in the shadows of death, death in Christ, we no longer hear the slave drivers call and enter into the true Day of rest and peace of God has appointed for mankind--for those who believe.

But, if you want to keep a literal Sabbath, that's cool, too.

So you call ALL of the justified executed ones by Christ as being another slave drivers??
How about the ones who did not enter the Ark while the Holy Spirit was STRIVING with then for 120 years young'in!

--Elijah

How can anyone possibly think you can be at rest while wearing a body of flesh that only has a desire to gratify it's lustful cravings, and is easily tired?


JLB

 

[Elijah674]

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Regardless, this is what one will attempt to do to keep the one day because we truely love Him.. for Worship!

Isa. 58:12-14 says it this way...
[12] And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

[14] [Then shalt] thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

--Elijah

 

[John 8:32]

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You are wise. Lol.

To be asking the question for selfish reasons is not in the 'Spirit' of God. (Or LOVE!) And it is because of your attitude of other posts that gives me this thinking of your Jehovah Witness endearment? (and that is a question)

Well, I'm not JW, lol. (I eat them for lunch, lol...kidding, of course). And I wasn't baiting you for selfish reasons but for the sake of showing how God is teaching his people about true fasting, and the true Sabbath Rest of God for man...rest and fasting from sin.

The literal Sabbath was/is a shadow of the rest God has provided at the end of mankind's struggle of Christ-less sin, but which was established from creation. When we believe we enter into that rest and cease from the labors of our fallen nature and the unceasing whip of the taskmaster of sin.

16 Or why was I not hidden away in the ground like a stillborn child,
like an infant who never saw the light of day?
17 There the wicked cease from turmoil,
and there the weary are at rest.
18 Captives also enjoy their ease;
they no longer hear the slave driver’s shout.
19 The small and the great are there,
and the slaves are freed from their owners.
(Job 3:16-19 NIV)

When we lie down in peace in the shadows of death, death in Christ, we no longer hear the slave drivers call and enter into the true Day of rest and peace of God has appointed for mankind--for those who believe.

But, if you want to keep a literal Sabbath, that's cool, too.

So you call ALL of the justified executed ones by Christ as being another slave drivers??
How about the ones who did not enter the Ark while the Holy Spirit was STRIVING with then for 120 years young'in!

--Elijah

How can anyone possibly think you can be at rest while wearing a body of flesh that only has a desire to gratify it's lustful cravings, and is easily tired?


JLB

One thing I certainly cannot do is rest at work.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

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Regardless, this is what one will attempt to do to keep the one day because we truely love Him.. for Worship!

Isa. 58:12-14 says it this way...
[12] And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

[14] [Then shalt] thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

--Elijah

The literal Sabbath is so utterly meaningless to me. I see no value or significance in it, spiritually speaking, except as a shadow of what it represents. I don't need to keep a literal Sabbath to know and appreciate what it represents.

I have zero conviction in it being a useful spiritual exercise like 'love your neighbor as yourself' is. Zero.

I detest cold, dead religious exercises.

 

[Elijah674]

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Regardless, this is what one will attempt to do to keep the one day because we truely love Him.. for Worship!

Isa. 58:12-14 says it this way...
[12] And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

[13] If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; (Whose day?) and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, [not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:]

[14] [Then shalt] thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

--Elijah

The literal Sabbath is so utterly meaningless to me. I see no value or significance in it, spiritually speaking, except as a shadow of what it represents. I don't need to keep a literal Sabbath to know and appreciate what it represents.

I have zero conviction in it being a useful spiritual exercise like 'love your neighbor as yourself' is. Zero.

I detest cold, dead religious exercises.

EDITED.

Matt. 22
[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

And.. 1st Corinthians 14
[32] And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

God is saying that they all agree with one another!

--Elijah

 

[Jethro Bodine]

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Matt. 22
[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

And.. 1st Corinthians 14
[32] And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

God is saying that they all agree with one another!

--Elijah

I know that.

When I "love my neighbor as myself" I satisfy God's requirement for Sabbath rest.

Is this the kind of Sabbath God has chosen for us, only a day for people to humble ourselves? Is it only for taking a break from cutting the grass? Is that what you call a Sabbath, a day acceptable to the Lord?

The true Sabbath is about being careful to not hurt others (the Biblical definition of 'love') by putting selfish ambition to death 24/7/365.

I suggest to you that the person who keeps THAT Sabbath will condemn the one who keeps the shadow stipulations of Moses' Sabbath but does not keep the true Sabbath.

 

[Elijah674]

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Matt. 22
[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

And.. 1st Corinthians 14
[32] And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

God is saying that they all agree with one another!

--Elijah

I know that.

When I "love my neighbor as myself" I satisfy God's requirement for Sabbath rest.

Is this the kind of Sabbath God has chosen for us, only a day for people to humble ourselves? Is it only for taking a break from cutting the grass? Is that what you call a Sabbath, a day acceptable to the Lord?

The true Sabbath is about being careful to not hurt others (the Biblical definition of 'love') by putting selfish ambition to death 24/7/365.

I suggest to you that the person who keeps THAT Sabbath will condemn the one who keeps the shadow stipulations of Moses' Sabbath but does not keep the true Sabbath.

Whatever young'on!

--Elijah

 

[Jethro Bodine]

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Whatever young'on!

--Elijah

Young'on?

I'll have you know I look a lot older than I really am!

 

[Elijah674]

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Matt. 22
[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

And.. 1st Corinthians 14
[32] And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

God is saying that they all agree with one another!

--Elijah

I know that.

When I "love my neighbor as myself" I satisfy God's requirement for Sabbath rest.

Is this the kind of Sabbath God has chosen for us, only a day for people to humble ourselves? Is it only for taking a break from cutting the grass? Is that what you call a Sabbath, a day acceptable to the Lord?

The true Sabbath is about being careful to not hurt others (the Biblical definition of 'love') by putting selfish ambition to death 24/7/365.

I suggest to you that the person who keeps THAT Sabbath will condemn the one who keeps the shadow stipulations of Moses' Sabbath but does not keep the true Sabbath.

Whatever young'on!

--Elijah

To whoever it might concern? The above post deals with one (1/2) requirement of the Lords. It there another that is to be OBSERVED before mankind?

We are told by Christ to magnify the law and make it honorable. Does that mean to do away with it? (it is finished? or to do away with it? Daniel 7:25)

And in Isa. 8:20 it is stated in all seriousness...
[20] To the law (first) [and] to the (second) testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is [[no light]] in them.

And the conclusion to is found in Rev. 12:17 with the documentation ---
[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, (First)and have (second) the testimony of Jesus Christ.

--Elijah

 

[Jethro Bodine]

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Matt. 22
[35] Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
[36] Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[37] Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[38] This is the first and great commandment.
[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[40] On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

And.. 1st Corinthians 14
[32] And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

God is saying that they all agree with one another!

--Elijah

I know that.

When I "love my neighbor as myself" I satisfy God's requirement for Sabbath rest.

Is this the kind of Sabbath God has chosen for us, only a day for people to humble ourselves? Is it only for taking a break from cutting the grass? Is that what you call a Sabbath, a day acceptable to the Lord?

The true Sabbath is about being careful to not hurt others (the Biblical definition of 'love') by putting selfish ambition to death 24/7/365.

I suggest to you that the person who keeps THAT Sabbath will condemn the one who keeps the shadow stipulations of Moses' Sabbath but does not keep the true Sabbath.

Whatever young'on!

--Elijah

To whoever it might concern? The above post deals with one (1/2) requirement of the Lords. It there another that is to be OBSERVED before mankind?

Did you know 'love your neighbor as yourself' IS how you keep the first and greatest command? But I know, many in the church think that somehow 'love God' is something completely different and separate from 'love your neighbor'.

"Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar." (1 John 4:20 NIV)

Somehow keeping Sabbath is the epitome of love for God to some people. Not even remotely true. Isaiah 58 speaks to this very well--the danger of thinking that legalistic, external worship, no matter how commanded it was (or is) in no way approaches what really matters to God and shows your love for him. God told the Isrealites through the prophets they can KEEP their Mosaic worship of him, because they treated each other so badly. But you claim it is more important than 'love others'. That's NOT what the Bible says in either the old or the New Testament.

We are told by Christ to magnify the law and make it honorable. Does that mean to do away with it? (it is finished? or to do away with it? Daniel 7:25)

But the Bible says that when we love others we have fulfilled all the law. Do you disagree with Paul? You obviously do.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

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Did you know 'love your neighbor as yourself' IS how you keep the first and greatest command? But I know, many in the church think that somehow 'love God' is something completely different and separate from 'love your neighbor'.

"Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar." (1 John 4:20 NIV)

Somehow keeping Sabbath is the epitome of love for God to some people. Not even remotely true. Isaiah 58 speaks to this very well--the danger of thinking that legalistic, external worship, no matter how commanded it was (or is) in no way approaches what really matters to God and shows your love for him. God told the Isrealites through the prophets they can KEEP their Mosaic worship of him, because they treated each other so badly. But you claim it is more important than 'love others'. That's NOT what the Bible says in either the old or the New Testament.

We are told by Christ to magnify the law and make it honorable. Does that mean to do away with it? (it is finished? or to do away with it? Daniel 7:25)

But the Bible says that when we love others we have fulfilled all the law. Do you disagree with Paul? You obviously do.

Obviously you do??
You as a person, you are only a person who make biblical false claims. I do not know you from a good or bad guy?? (in ignorance or as Heb. 6:6) I want you SAVED is the soul reason for my postings! That is the TRUE FACT! (and soul is used as a singular person) And again, I know nothing about you as a person or do 'i' care to.

--Elijah

Yeah, but are you nice to people?

Obedience is better than sacrifice.

Sabbath keeping is a sacrifice you make to God. Loving others (doing them no harm by denying self) is the obedience you offer up to God.

Sabbath keeping will NEVER replace or become greater than how you treat other people. Sabbath keeping is not a fruit of the Spirit. It proves nothing about one's status with God. The fruit of the Spirit does. Love expressed through all the fruit of the Spirit is the 'sign' command of God, not literal circumcision and Sabbath keeping.

Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm not asking if you agree with it. I'm asking if you understand it.