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-How Does God Desire The Keeping Of HIS &th Day Sabbath-

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I have never met one Sabbath keeper who observes the Sabbath as God directed, in the best way we can, ever say the Sabbath is such a drag. Ask anyone, myself included and I start looking forward to next weeks Sabbath from Saturday night to Friday night. God made the Sabbath cause he knew what was best for us from day 7 of the creation of this world that we need that rest. If God felt it necessary to rest from his works, I must follow his example which Jesus followed perfectly and taught in accordance to his Father's Word.

Ryan, my friend, I actually begin to feel a little giddy on Friday afternoons with anticipation. Anyone who has truly kept the Sabbath knows what I mean. It is the high point of the week.
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Question: For those who keep weekly Sabbath do you also keep the 'other' Sabbaths....
 
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Question: For those who keep weekly Sabbath do you also keep the 'other' Sabbaths....

Yes, for instance the traditional Rabbi's would say Shavuot/Pentecost is today. Most Messianics have May 19 as the day. I choose to take both days off. That's why I'm on here cause I am resting discussing the Good Word with other believers. I tend to go with the May 19 date. But anyways, yes I keep the other Sabbaths and look ahead through the year to book off my time accordingly. As did Paul plan ahead


I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing Acts 18:21
 
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Referring to the topic of this thread, how does one keep the seventh day Sabbath?

Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

First of all, don’t work. Don’t go to the job, don’t reroof the house, don’t plow a ten acre field, don’t save all the housework and laundry for the Sabbath day, don’t work.

One question that comes up is building a fire…

Exo 35:1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them.
Exo 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
Exo 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

What is the context here? Notice that the kindling of a fire is connected with labor, work? Dr. Bullinger rightly ties this into the communal fire that was built for work on the Tabernacle…

“Before the work commences, they are reminded of the commandment as to the six days and the seventh, even in the making of the Tabernacle.” – Dr. E. W. Bullinger.

Matthew Henry gives a pretty good summation here…

III. He begins with the law of the sabbath, because that was much insisted on in the instructions he had received (Exo_35:2, Exo_35:3): Six days shall work be done, work for the tabernacle, the work of the day that was now to be done in its day; and they had little else to do here in the wilderness, where they had neither husbandry nor merchandise, neither food to get nor clothes to make: but on the seventh day you must not strike a stroke, no, not at the tabernacle-work; the honour of the sabbath was above that of the sanctuary, more ancient and more lasting; that must be to you a holy day, devoted to God, and not be spent in common business. It is a sabbath of rest. It is a sabbath of sabbaths (so some read it), more honourable and excellent than any of the other feasts, and should survive them all. A sabbath of sabbatism, so others read it, being typical of that sabbatism or rest, both spiritual and eternal, which remains for the people of God, Heb_4:9. It is a sabbath of rest, that is, in which a rest from all worldly labour must be very carefully and strictly observed. It is a sabbath and a little sabbath, so some of the Jews would have it read; not only observing the whole day as a sabbath, but an hour before the beginning of it, and an hour after the ending of it, which they throw in over and above out of their own time, and call a little sabbath, to show how glad they are of the approach of the sabbath and how loth to part with it. It is a sabbath of rest, but it is rest to the Lord, to whose honour it must be devoted. A penalty is here annexed to the breach of it: Whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. Also a particular prohibition of kindling fires on the sabbath day for any servile work, as smith's work, or plumbers, etc.

What about planting time or harvest time?

Exo 34:21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

Are there exceptions…

Exo 23:4 If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again.
Now this does not come out and plainly say on the Sabbath day, but Christ shows that it was understood…

Mat 12:11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
Mat 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
Mat 12:13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

Here the Creator Himself, the One who made the Sabbath, explains the ox in the ditch principle. Would I help fix the roof of a widow’s house on the Sabbath if a rain was coming? Yep, sure would. I wouldn’t even have to think about it. Would I reroof a house for money? Nope. There is a difference.

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Secondly, rest, not only physically, but spiritually. The Sabbath day is a day for rest. Now this doesn’t mean sleep for twenty for hours, it means relax, let the cares of this life go. Don’t worry about the job, the house, one’s business deals, finances, etc. Rather it is a day to let go of the stress and cares of this crazy world go.

Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Again, Matthew Henry…

Great stress was always laid upon the due observance of the sabbath day, and it was particularly required from the Jews when they were captives in Babylon, because by keeping that day, in honour of the Creator, they distinguished themselves from the worshippers of the gods that have not made the heavens and the earth. See Isa_56:1, Isa_56:2, where keeping the sabbath is joined, as here, with keeping judgment and doing justice. Some, indeed, understand this of the day of atonement, which they think is the fast spoken of in the former part of the chapter, and which is called a sabbath of rest, Lev_23:32. But, as the fasts before spoken of seem to be those that were occasional, so this sabbath is doubtless the weekly sabbath, that great sign between God and his professing people - his appointing it a sign of his favour to them and their observing it a sign of their obedience to him. Now observe here,
I. How the sabbath is to be sanctified (Isa_58:13); and, there remaining still a sabbatism for the people of God, this law of the sabbath is still binding to us on our Lord's day.
1. Nothing must be done that puts contempt upon the sabbath day, or looks like having mean thoughts of it, when God has so highly dignified it. We must turn away our foot from the sabbath, from trampling upon it, as profane atheistical people do, from travelling on that day (so some); we must turn away our foot from doing out pleasure on that holy day, that is, from living at large, and taking a liberty to do what we please on sabbath days, without the control and restraint of conscience, or from indulging ourselves in the pleasures of sense, in which the modern Jews wickedly place the sanctification of the sabbath, though it is as great a profanation of it as any thing. On sabbath days we must not walk in our own ways (that is, not follow our callings), not find our own pleasure (that is, not follow our sports and recreations); nay, we must not speak our own words, words that concern either our callings or our pleasures; we must not allow ourselves a liberty of speech on that day as on other days, for we must then mind God's ways, make religion the business of the day; we must choose the things that please him; and speak his words, speak of divine things as we sit in the house and walk by the way. In all we say and do we must put a difference between this day and other days.
2. Every thing must be done that puts an honour on the day and is expressive of our high thoughts of it. We must call it a delight, not a task and a burden; we must delight ourselves in it, in the restraints it lays upon us and the services it obliges us to. We must be in our element when we are worshipping God, and in communion with him. How amiable are thy tabernacles, O Lord of hosts! We must not only count it a delight, but call it so, must openly profess the complacency we take in the day and the duties of it. We must call it so to God, in thanksgiving for it and earnest desire of his grace to enable us to do the work of the day in its day, because we delight in it. We must call it so to others, to invite them to come and share in the pleasure of it; and we must call it so to ourselves, that we may not entertain the least thought of wishing the sabbath gone that we may sell corn. We must call it the Lord's holy day, and honourable. We must call it holy, separated from common use and devoted to God and to his service, must call it the holy of the Lord, the day which he has sanctified to himself. Even in Old Testament times the sabbath was called the Lord's day, and therefore it is fitly called so still, and for a further reason, because it is the Lord Christ's day, Rev_1:10. It is holy because it is the Lord's day, and upon both accounts it is honourable. It is a beauty of holiness that is upon it; it is ancient, and its antiquity is its honour; and we must make it appear that we look upon it as honourable by honouring God on that day. We put honour upon the day when we give honour to him that instituted it, and to whose honour it is dedicated.
II. What the reward is of the sabbath - sanctification, Isa_58:14. If we thus remember the sabbath day to keep it holy,
1. We shall have the comfort of it; the work will be its own wages. If we call the sabbath a delight, then shall we delight ourselves in the Lord; he will more and more manifest himself to us as the delightful subject of our thoughts and meditations and the delightful object of our best affections. Note, The more pleasure we take in serving God the more pleasure we shall find in it. If we go about duty with cheerfulness, we shall go from it with satisfaction and shall have reason to say, “It is good to be here, good to draw near to God.”
2. We shall have the honour of it: I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, which denotes not only a great security (as that, Isa_32:16, He shall dwell on high), but great dignity and advancement. “Thou shalt ride in state, shalt appear conspicuous, and the eyes of all thy neighbours shall be upon thee.” It was said of Israel, when God led them triumphantly out of Egypt, that he made them to ride on the high places of the earth, Deu_32:12, Deu_32:13. Those that honour God and his sabbath he will thus honour. If God by his grace enable us to live above the world, and so to manage it as not only not to be hindered by it, but to be furthered and carried on by it in our journey towards heaven, then he makes us to ride on the high places of the earth.
3. We shall have the profit of it: I will feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father, that is, with all the blessings of the covenant and all the precious products of Canaan (which was a type of heaven), for these were the heritage of Jacob. Observe, The heritage of believers is what they shall not only be portioned with hereafter, but fed with now, fed with the hopes of it, and not flattered, fed with the earnests and foretastes of it; and those that are so fed have reason to say that they are well fed. In order that we may depend upon it, it is added, “The mouth of the Lord has spoken it; you may take God's word for it, for he cannot lie nor deceive; what his mouth has spoken his hand will give, his hand will do, and not one iota or tittle of his good promise shall fall to the ground.” Blessed, therefore, thrice blessed, is he that doeth this, and lays hold on it, that keeps the sabbath from polluting it.

Albert Barnes…

If thou turn away thy foot from the Sabbath - The evident meaning of this is, that they were sacredly to observe the Sabbath, and not to violate or pollute it (see the notes at Isa_56:2). The idea, says Grotius, is, that they were not to travel on the Sabbath day on ordinary journeys. The ‘foot’ is spoken of as the instrument of motion and travel. ‘Ponder the paths of thy feet’ Pro_4:26; that is, observe attentively thy goings. ‘Remove thy foot from evil’ Pro_4:27; that is, abstain from evil, do not go to execute evil. So here, to restrain the foot from the Sabbath, is not to have the foot employed on the Sabbath; not to be engaged in traveling, or in the ordinary active employments of life, either for business or pleasure.
From doing thy pleasure on my holy day - Two things may here be observed:
1. God claims the day as his, and as holy on that account. While all time is his, and while he requires all time to be profitably and usefully employed, he calls the Sabbath especially his own - a day which is to be observed with reference to himself, and which is to be regarded as belonging to him. To take the hours of that day, therefore, for our pleasure, or for work which is not necessary or merciful, is to rob God of that which he claims as his own.
2. We are not to do our own pleasure on that day. That is, we are not to pursue our ordinary plans of amusement; we are not to devote it to feasting, to riot, or to revelry. It is true that they who love the Sabbath as they should will find ‘pleasure’ in observing it, for they have happiness in the service of God. But the idea is, here, that we are to do the things which God requires, and to consult his will in the observance. It is remarkable that the thing here adverted to, is the very way in which the Sabbath is commonly violated. It is not extensively a day of business, for the propriety of a periodical cessation from toil is so obvious, that people will have such days recurring at moderate intervals. But it is a day of pastime and amusement; a day not merely of relaxation from toil, but also of relaxation from the restraints of temperance and virtue. And while the Sabbath is God’s great ordinance for perpetuating religion and virtue, it is also, by perversion, made Satan’s great ordinance for perpetuating intemperance, dissipation, and sensuality.
And call the Sabbath a delight - This appropriately expresses the feelings of all who have any just views of the Sabbath. To them it is not wearisome, nor are its hours heavy. They love the day of sweet and holy rest. They esteem it a privilege, not a task, to be permitted once a week to disburden their minds of the cares, and toils, and anxieties of life. It is a ‘delight’ to them to recall the memory of the institution of the Sabbath, when God rested from his labors; to recall the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, to the memory of which the Christian Sabbath is consecrated; to be permitted to devote a whole day to prayer and praise, to the public and private worship of God, to services that expand the intellect and purify the heart. To the father of a family it is the source of unspeakable delight that he may conduct his children to the house of God, and that he may instruct them in the ways of religion. To the Christian man of business, the farmer, and the professional man, it is a pleasure that he may suspend his cares, and may uninterruptedly think of God and of heaven. To all who have any just feeling, the Sabbath is a ‘delight;’ and for them to be compelled to forego its sacred rest would be an unspeakable calamity.
The holy of the Lord, honorable - This more properly means, ‘and call the holy of Yahweh honorable.’ That is, it does not mean that they who observed the Sabbath would call it ‘holy to Yahweh and honorable;’ but it means that the Sabbath was, in fact, ‘the holy of Yahweh,’ and that they would regard it as ‘honorable.’ A slight inspection of the Hebrew will show that this is the sense. They who keep the Sabbath aright will esteem it a day “to be honored” (מכבד mekubâd).
And shalt honor him - Or rather, shalt honor it; to wit, the Sabbath. The Hebrew will bear either construction, but the connection seems to require us to understand it of the Sabbath rather than of the Lord.
Not doing thine own ways - This is evidently explanatory of the phrase in the beginning of the verse. ‘if thou turn away thy foot.’ So the Septuagint understands it: Οὐκ άρεῖς τὸς πόδα σου ἐπ ̓ ἔργῳ Ouk areis ton poda sou ep' ergō - ‘And will not lift up thy foot to any work.’ They were not to engage in secular labor, or in the execution of their own plans, but were to regard the day as belonging to God, and to be employed in his service alone.
Nor finding thine own pleasure - The Chaldee renders this, ‘And shalt not provide on that day those things which are necessary for thee.’
Nor speaking thine own words - Lowth and Noyes render this, ‘From speaking vain words.’ The Septuagint, ‘Nor utter a word in anger from thy mouth.’ The Chaldee renders it, ‘Words of violence.’ It is necessary to add some epithet to make out the sense, as the Hebrew is literally, ‘and to speak a word.’ Probably our common translation has expressed the true sense, as in the previous members of the verse the phrase ‘thine own’ thrice occurs. And according to this, the sense is, that on the Sabbath our conversation is to be such as becomes a day which belongs to God. It is not less important that our conversation should be right on the Sabbath than it is that our conduct should be.

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Question: For those who keep weekly Sabbath do you also keep the 'other' Sabbaths....

Yes, for instance the traditional Rabbi's would say Shavuot/Pentecost is today. Most Messianics have May 19 as the day. I choose to take both days off. That's why I'm on here cause I am resting discussing the Good Word with other believers. I tend to go with the May 19 date. But anyways, yes I keep the other Sabbaths and look ahead through the year to book off my time accordingly. As did Paul plan ahead

I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing Acts 18:21
Thanks Ryan. I don't know how to ask this with out it sounding very argumeantive but arguing is not what is in my heart/head....
How can you be on the computer in light of ...
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Using public utilies causes some one to work...
 
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Thirdly we should attend Sabbath services…

Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

Convocation:

H4744
מקרא
miqrâ'
mik-raw'
From H7121; something called out, that is, a public meeting (the act, the persons, or the palce); also a rehearsal: - assembly, calling, convocation, reading.

Heb 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Matthew Henry:

II. A repetition of the law of the sabbath in the first place. Though the annual feasts were made more remarkable by the general attendance at the sanctuary, yet these must not eclipse the brightness of the sabbath, Lev_23:3. They are here told, 1. That on that day they must withdraw themselves from all the affairs and business of the world. It is a sabbath of rest, typifying our spiritual rest from sin, and in God: You shall do no work therein. On other holy days they were forbidden to do any servile work (Lev_23:7), but on the sabbath, and the day of atonement (which is also called a sabbath), they were to do no work at all, no, not the dressing of meat. 2. On that day they must employ themselves in the service of God. (1.) It is a holy convocation; that is, “If it lie within your reach, you shall sanctify it in a religious assembly: let as many as can come to the door of the tabernacle, and let others meet elsewhere for prayer, and praise, and the reading of the law,” as in the schools of the prophets, while prophecy continued, and afterwards in the synagogues. Christ appointed the New Testament sabbath to be a holy convocation, by meeting his disciples once and again (and perhaps oftener) on the first day of the week. (2.) “Whether you have opportunity of sanctifying it in a holy convocation or not, yet let it be the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings. Put a difference between that day and other days in your families. It is the sabbath of the Lord, the day on which he rested from the work of creation, and on which he has appointed us to rest; let it be observed in all your dwellings, even now that you dwell in tents.” Note, God's sabbaths are to be religiously observed in every private house, by every family apart, as well as by many families together in holy convocations. The sabbath of the Lord in our dwellings will be their beauty, strength, and safety; it will sanctify, edify, and glorify them.

The Sabbath is a day for Sabbath services, extra time for study and extra time spent in prayer. Since Christ broke down the veil and gave us access to the Father, the Sabbath gives us extra time to fellowship with the Father and Christ.
 
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The Sabbath is one day a week we have no commitments to the job or the working around the house so it is a wonderful time to do good for others…

Mat 12:10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
Mat 12:11 And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
Mat 12:12 How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

Luk 6:7 And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him.
Luk 6:8 But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.
Luk 6:9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?

The Sabbath is a great time to visit the sick, those in nursing homes, those in prison. It is a great time to invite the family and/or neighbors over for a picnic lunch and enjoy a pleasant afternoon of fellowship in the back deck. A good time to take the family on a walk and appreciate God’s amazing creation. A time to enjoy relaxation and rest instead of the hectic pressures and stresses of the work week.

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Question: For those who keep weekly Sabbath do you also keep the 'other' Sabbaths....

Yes, these are the shadows of the plan of God...

Passover - the sacrifice of Jesus Christ
The Days of Unleavened Bread - put sin out of our lives
Wave Sheaf - not a Sabbath, but a feast day - pictures the ascension of Christ to the Father to present Himself as the offering for sin in our stead.
Pentecost - Twofold, the beginning of the church and giving of the Holy spirit and it also pictures the early harvest of those who are Christ's at His coming.
Trumpets - The return of Christ
Atonement - the incarceration of Satan and the world becoming at one with God
Tabernacles - the Millenium
The Last Great Day - the Great White Throne Judgment

Yes, I keep the Feast Days of God.
 
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Question: For those who keep weekly Sabbath do you also keep the 'other' Sabbaths....

Yes, for instance the traditional Rabbi's would say Shavuot/Pentecost is today. Most Messianics have May 19 as the day. I choose to take both days off. That's why I'm on here cause I am resting discussing the Good Word with other believers. I tend to go with the May 19 date. But anyways, yes I keep the other Sabbaths and look ahead through the year to book off my time accordingly. As did Paul plan ahead

I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing Acts 18:21
Thanks Ryan. I don't know how to ask this with out it sounding very argumeantive but arguing is not what is in my heart/head....
How can you be on the computer in light of ...
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Using public utilies causes some one to work...
Am I doing work by telling people the joy of celebrating a Sabbath in the way the Good Word says?

I am not telling others what to do. We can become overly legalistic when looking at these issues. I have heard of some who do have that mindset you suggest with utilities. My heart is to rest in the way he intended. Convocation with other believers, teach my kids about the bible, discuss issues such as this so we can all grow in our faith. I am sure the Father is not looking down at me with contempt as he knows where my heart is at. In a society that does not value the Sabbath, it is baby steps and issues like the one you raised are hard to ignore. But I strive to do the best with what we have knowing that I sin and will always fall short of the glory of God.

I find discussions more interesting on how to carry out a commandment as I always want to strive to serve the Father better today then how I did yesterday.
 
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I am sure the Father is not looking down at me with contempt as he knows where my heart is at.
I find discussions more interesting on how to carry out a commandment as I always want to strive to serve the Father better today then how I did yesterday.

Here is a thought for you Ryan...

Ever see the famous Google maps whole earth at night? All the lights that show up? Hold that thought...

Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

What do you suppose it looks like to God on the Sabbath when He looks down from Heaven and sees His people keeping His Holy Sabbath day?
 
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John and Ryan, I am so happy to see how joyful you both are in keeping the Sabbath and understanding what you are doing.
You have both taught me here today.
God bless you and yours.
Allen
 
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I am sure the Father is not looking down at me with contempt as he knows where my heart is at.
I find discussions more interesting on how to carry out a commandment as I always want to strive to serve the Father better today then how I did yesterday.

Here is a thought for you Ryan...

Ever see the famous Google maps whole earth at night? All the lights that show up? Hold that thought...

Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

What do you suppose it looks like to God on the Sabbath when He looks down from Heaven and sees His people keeping His Holy Sabbath day?
I know he is looking down on favor.
 
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John and Ryan, I am so happy to see how joyful you both are in keeping the Sabbath and understanding what you are doing.
You have both taught me here today.
God bless you and yours.
Allen
Bless you as well.

We just bought a mezuzah to hang on our door frame as we had written on the inside of door commandments, but it wasn't visible or meaningful for us. So we reasearched and my kids and us will write words from the bible that are especially meaningful for us. The purpose I explained is when we leave our houses, we are responsible for conducting ourselves in a godly manner and we need to be aware of who we are representing, the God most high. So it's a daily reminder of what we stand for. As well, guests who come over will see this and will open doors to witness to friends and family.

So sometimes studying out a commandment, and find its purpose is part of the journey of learning instead of just blindly doing it so we can appreciate and understand why we do what we do.

Now back to the Sabbath
 
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You keeping that pesky fourth one are you?

No. I rest on Saturday.

But I don't assume that is all that is required from God.


I am more interested in, "You shall have no other gods before Me".

There is no telling how many ways that I am blind to what that means, the way He intended it.

I know I am desperate for My Savior, every moment of every hour, of every day.

I don't let Him forget it, either.

The Sabbath is the least of my concern.

Loving people, the way He intended, is more on the top of my priority list.



JLB

Keeping all ten of the Commandments is my priority...

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

God does not leave the definition of love cloudy and vague neither does He leave it up to us to define how to love Him (the first four) and how to love our neighbor (the last six). Deciding how to love Him and our neighbor on our own was tried once a long time ago...

Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

How'd that work out for them and us?

I'm sure you are the model of what a good Christian is.


JLB
 
Re: -How Does God Desire The Keeping Of HIS &th Day Sammath-

You keeping that pesky fourth one are you?

No. I rest on Saturday.

But I don't assume that is all that is required from God.


I am more interested in, "You shall have no other gods before Me".

There is no telling how many ways that I am blind to what that means, the way He intended it.

I know I am desperate for My Savior, every moment of every hour, of every day.

I don't let Him forget it, either.

The Sabbath is the least of my concern.

Loving people, the way He intended, is more on the top of my priority list.



JLB

Keeping all ten of the Commandments is my priority...

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

God does not leave the definition of love cloudy and vague neither does He leave it up to us to define how to love Him (the first four) and how to love our neighbor (the last six). Deciding how to love Him and our neighbor on our own was tried once a long time ago...

Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

How'd that work out for them and us?

I'm sure you are the model of what a good Christian is.


JLB

How am I to take that? if you are being honest, then I can assure you that I am not a model Christian, I have much growing and learning to do. If you are being sarcastic, then I am truly sorry to have offended you.
 
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John and Ryan, I am so happy to see how joyful you both are in keeping the Sabbath and understanding what you are doing.
You have both taught me here today.
God bless you and yours.
Allen

Blessings to you too. I hope my inadequate attempts have not gotten in the way of this beautiful truth.
 
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Question: For those who keep weekly Sabbath do you also keep the 'other' Sabbaths....

Yes, for instance the traditional Rabbi's would say Shavuot/Pentecost is today. Most Messianics have May 19 as the day. I choose to take both days off. That's why I'm on here cause I am resting discussing the Good Word with other believers. I tend to go with the May 19 date. But anyways, yes I keep the other Sabbaths and look ahead through the year to book off my time accordingly. As did Paul plan ahead

I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing Acts 18:21
Thanks Ryan. I don't know how to ask this with out it sounding very argumeantive but arguing is not what is in my heart/head....
How can you be on the computer in light of ...
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Using public utilies causes some one to work...
Am I doing work by telling people the joy of celebrating a Sabbath in the way the Good Word says?

I am not telling others what to do. We can become overly legalistic when looking at these issues. I have heard of some who do have that mindset you suggest with utilities. My heart is to rest in the way he intended. Convocation with other believers, teach my kids about the bible, discuss issues such as this so we can all grow in our faith. I am sure the Father is not looking down at me with contempt as he knows where my heart is at. In a society that does not value the Sabbath, it is baby steps and issues like the one you raised are hard to ignore. But I strive to do the best with what we have knowing that I sin and will always fall short of the glory of God.

I find discussions more interesting on how to carry out a commandment as I always want to strive to serve the Father better today then how I did yesterday.
One last then I will go away :) If by our actions we are causing other to fail.... ( thinking here of those who work at a job so you can have water, electricity etc) are you keeping Sabbath...

Thank you for the answers given :)
 
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I have struggled with that. I have come to the resolution that those who do so, do not keep the Sabbath and would be there whether I was a customer or not. I am not "causing" them to work on the Sabbath anymore than a sunday keeper is causing someone to work on Sunday. I have been faced with the ultimatum of working on the Sabbath or dire things would happen, my reply has always been, "I've been throwed outta better places than this" while exiting stage right. Point is God has always provided, I actually ended up with a better paying job and an employer who has no problems whatsoever with the Sabbath and the Feast Days. Back to your question, if everyone did keep the Sabbath, then there would be alternate arrangements made for power, gas, water, etc. out of necessity. In the mean time, I realize this is not God's world, and certainly not the Millenium, all do not keep the Sabbath and would work regardless. It is the best resolution I have been able to come to through prayer, bible study and fasting.
 
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Thanks Ryan. I don't know how to ask this with out it sounding very argumeantive but arguing is not what is in my heart/head....
How can you be on the computer in light of ...
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Using public utilies causes some one to work...
Am I doing work by telling people the joy of celebrating a Sabbath in the way the Good Word says?

I am not telling others what to do. We can become overly legalistic when looking at these issues. I have heard of some who do have that mindset you suggest with utilities. My heart is to rest in the way he intended. Convocation with other believers, teach my kids about the bible, discuss issues such as this so we can all grow in our faith. I am sure the Father is not looking down at me with contempt as he knows where my heart is at. In a society that does not value the Sabbath, it is baby steps and issues like the one you raised are hard to ignore. But I strive to do the best with what we have knowing that I sin and will always fall short of the glory of God.

I find discussions more interesting on how to carry out a commandment as I always want to strive to serve the Father better today then how I did yesterday.
One last then I will go away :) If by our actions we are causing other to fail.... ( thinking here of those who work at a job so you can have water, electricity etc) are you keeping Sabbath...

Thank you for the answers given :)
If I have/had made any person stumble, it was purely unintentional. God will look at my heart first and where it lies.

Observing Shabbat now, and even just 150 years ago you wouldn't have these type of questions. I just look at where we are and is North American civilization the ideal God intended for us? Maybe that's why people like John and myself take joy and comfort every Saturday, because its a way to remove ourselves from the hustle and bustle of our culture. Brings us to a simpler time where life isn't so complicated.

So I do not have a set in stone answer. Only God knows, and he looks into my heart, and I look into his Word to come up with answers to questions you just posed.
 
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