How to Find False Prophets Using Scripture

[Guest]

I believe that it is even simpler than this. Acts 16:31 If a person believes that verse God will save that person. That is Grace.

In the scripture we are never told to ask Jesus to come to us, we are told to come to Him and believe.
“Whosoever believes in me will not perish, but have everlasting life.†Jn 3:15

So right now, you have an important decision to make! You can either, believe in Christ, (faith) or you can reject him. The decision is yours. You can tell God the Father, (in your own thoughts) that you are believing in his Son, and that will be the moment of eternal life for you.

Excellent Jarrod, through his Grace we are saved. In order to be saved, we must believe in our hearts that Jesus is not just the son of God, but he is in fact God. Who is God the Father to you? It says in John 4:24 that God is a spirit.

Paul was writing to the church in Rome, they were already Christians were they not?

Webb, absolutley they we're Christians! Excellent Revelation. If one has to ask, the Lord is written all over the OT. Who was the Lord in the OT?

 

[Webb]

Excellent Jarrod, through his Grace we are saved. In order to be saved, we must believe in our hearts that Jesus is not just the son of God, but he is in fact God. Who is God the Father to you? It says in John 4:24 that God is a spirit.



Webb, absolutley they we're Christians! Excellent Revelation. If one has to ask, the Lord is written all over the OT. Who was the Lord in the OT?

So, if the Romans were already Christians are you saying that the same answer to the non-Christian (who is inquiring) and the Christian are the same?

 

[Guest]

So, if the Romans were already Christians are you saying that the same answer to the non-Christian (who is inquiring) and the Christian are the same?

No, there is a difference between religious men and true Born Again Christians. Born Again Christians knew the Lord they were speaking of in the OT. The Lord was/is God the Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ in spirit dwelling inside their hearts. Born Again Christians have obtained Salvation by the Grace of God the Father through Jesus Christ.

 

[P31Woman]

No, there is a difference between religious men and true Born Again Christians. Born Again Christians knew the Lord they were speaking of in the OT. The Lord was/is God the Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ in spirit dwelling inside their hearts. Born Again Christians have obtained Salvation by the Grace of God the Father through Jesus Christ.

The comforter (Holy Spirit) comes to reside in the heart of a believer. Jesus is at the right hand of God being our mediator.

Our God is a trinity.

John 15
The Work of the Holy Spirit

26 “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me. 27 And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning.

Romans 8:26

In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express.

1 Timothy 2

5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.

 

[Guest]

Wow, what a beautiful thread this has become. Praise the Lord! Blessings Everyone!

 

[gr8grace]

Hi Agape. No, sin is the problem!!! Sin is the reason we need Salvation! I want the sinner to know that God is Love, Mercy, Peace through Salvation! They don't understand who God is yet. True prophets need to preach His Love, Mercy and Peace so people stop sinning!!

Sorry Urk , I am going to have to disagree with some of your points. Sin is no longer the problem.It is now about the SON, He took care of sin. John 16:9

We need to show the sinner Jesus Christ, He is all those attributes that you state. But the attribute that needs to be satisfied is Gods Justice And we can only receive grace by adjusting to the Justice of God and that can only be done by believing on The Lord Jesus Christ.

All the unbeliever has to understand is that they are a sinner and Christ died for them. The unbeliever can understand nothing more then that until they are saved. Heck we have been studying Christ as God for over 2000 years and still do not fully understand how that works.....so how can we expect an unregenerate person to understand that.

True Disciples will preach Jesus Christ, and that death was a payment for mans sins and it is available to all. All you have to do is Believe.

 

[Guest]

Sorry Urk , I am going to have to disagree with some of your points. Sin is no longer the problem.It is now about the SON, He took care of sin. John 16:9

We need to show the sinner Jesus Christ, He is all those attributes that you state. But the attribute that needs to be satisfied is Gods Justice And we can only receive grace by adjusting to the Justice of God and that can only be done by believing on The Lord Jesus Christ.

All the unbeliever has to understand is that they are a sinner and Christ died for them. The unbeliever can understand nothing more then that until they are saved. Heck we have been studying Christ as God for over 2000 years and still do not fully understand how that works.....so how can we expect an unregenerate person to understand that.

True Disciples will preach Jesus Christ, and that death was a payment for mans sins and it is available to all. All you have to do is Believe.

Very well said, wow!! There are so many revelations coming out in this thread, do we all see how God works in us individually by using our own words? Yes I was getting ahead of myself. How can they possibly know who God the Father is just yet. I agree with you, we are on the same page. To know who God the Father is, a person must obtain Salvation through Jesus Christ first. All you did was just state it better than me! Blessings!

 

[Agape]

Sin is no longer the problem.It is now about the SON, He took care of sin. John 16:9

Can you please develop and explain to me to whom sin is no longer the problem and how it relates to the scripture you quoted.

 

[Guest]

I think what he means is sin will always be a problem even after Salvation, but Jesus conquered sin at the cross.
The devil hates believers, sin is still everywhere. That's why we need to pray and stay close to God.

 

[gr8grace]

Can you please develop and explain to me to whom sin is no longer the problem and how it relates to the scripture you quoted.

Sin(horrible to a Holy God) is what made our savior come with out a doubt. Now I am STRICTLY SPEAKING SALVATION.

Not one unbeliever has to worry about a sin that can keep them from salvation, except one. John 16:9 This verse means that they have to change their mind about Christ.

Not one unbeliever will go to hell for their sins. Rev 20:13 .....Their righteous(human good) DEEDS are compared to Jesus righteous(Cross) DEED, because they did not believe. And there is NO comparison.

That is because Christ paid for the sins of the whole world on the Cross.

God provided the Once For All sacrifice of the lord Jesus Christ for the sins of the whole world (Jn. 1:29; 1st Jn. 2:2; 3:5; Heb. 7:27; 9:11-14; 10:10; Ps. 103:10,12; Isa. 38:17; 43:25; Jer. 31:34; Mic. 7:19).

 

[Guest]

Not one unbeliever will go to hell for their sins.

Do you mean, not one unbeliever now that has turned to salvation (once an unbeliever) will go to hell for their sins? I believe that unbelievers who haven't repented fully unto Salvation will go to hell, because there are consequences for our actions. A person cannot enter Holy Land/Heaven without being born of the Holy Spirit first in this lifetme. God will not send a Born Again Christian that sins into hell. The Born Again Christian who is sinning needs to repent of their sin and stay close to God, because human beings are not perfect. Repenting after Salvation is different than repenting to obtain salvation. Please guide me through this, as I am still learning.

 

[Agape]

Not one unbeliever has to worry about a sin that can keep them from salvation, except one. John 16:9 This verse means that they have to change their mind about Christ.

I don't get that, unbelievers don't believe, how do you expect them to worry?
Are unbelievers separated from God?

 

[gr8grace]

Do you mean, not one unbeliever now that has turned to salvation (once an unbeliever) will go to hell for their sins? I believe that unbelievers who haven't repented fully unto Salvation will go to hell, because there are consequences for our actions. A person cannot enter Holy Land/Heaven without being born of the Holy Spirit first in this lifetme. God will not send a Born Again Christian that sins into hell. The Born Again Christian who is sinning needs to repent of their sin and stay close to God, because human beings are not perfect. Repenting after Salvation is different than repenting to obtain salvation. Please guide me through this, as I am still learning.

Once you believe you are a believer and saved forever. John 5:24

Simply put the consequence for never believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is Eternal separation from Him in the Lake of fire. A believer can NEVER go there.

Since the unbelievers sins have been paid for once and for all at the cross, It is not that persons sins that send him there. It is His unbelief in the Lord Jesus Christ.

I dont believe that a person has to repent of any sin except John 16:9 That IS Grace. Eph 2:8

A persons sins are not in view when coming to the Lord, Just their unbelief......an unbeliever is not even aware of a lot of sins that they are committing at that time because they are not regenerated.

 

[gr8grace]

I don't get that, unbelievers don't believe, how do you expect them to worry?
Are unbelievers separated from God?

A searching unbeliever can become worried if we are preaching hellfire and sin. We need to preach the Son and belief in the Son. John 16:9

Unbelievers are separated from God in their unbelief, but they have access to God when ever they want to believe. They all have access to the Gospel message that can bring a union with God. Eph 1:13-14

 

[Guest]

Many Blessings Jarrod. :yes

 

[gr8grace]

Many Blessings Jarrod. :yes

Thank you Urk, same to you!

 

[Guest]

 

[felix]

A false prophet to me is one who does not teach/preach on how to obtain salvation in this lifetime and eternal life after death with the scriptures that have been give to us but still preaches Jesus. What is a false prophet to you? These are just a few scriptures that the Holy Spirit has drawn me into, in order by Gospel..

Salvation
John 3:3
John 4:24
John 14:16
Romans 10:9
Ephesians 2:8

Eternal Life
Psalms 23:6
John 11:25-26
1 Corinthians 15:54
Philippians 3:20-21

He is Speaking to Everyone!
Matthew 7:7 - Ask, Seek, Knock!
John 3:16 - That whoever believes in Him!
Acts 2:21 - Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord!
Acts 2:47 - Having Favor with All the People!

Matthew 11:30 - We all have a choice, do not be afraid to knock on His door!
2 Corinthians 5:7 - Praise be to God the Father of Spirit and Flesh!

I think you deliberately missed the verses which Christ "explicitly" mentions about finding false prophet inspite of quoting several verses which speaks nothing about false prophets, just to make yourself look like you are speaking using scripture.

Matt 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
Matt 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
Matt 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Matt 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor [can] a bad tree bear good fruit.
Matt 7:19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matt 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

 

[Guest]

I think you deliberately missed the verses which Christ "explicitly" mentions about finding false prophet inspite of quoting several verses which speaks nothing about false prophets, just to make yourself look like you are speaking using scripture.

The reason I did that is because false prophets come out on their own about what they preach.
I don't even have to lift a finger.

 

[felix]

The reason I did that is because false prophets come out on their own about what they preach.
I don't even have to lift a finger.

Unfortunately, Christ disagrees with you. It is not what they preach but what "fruits" they bear.