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No felix, it's the fruits they bear inside of what they preach.
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Tired of all the political strife and infighting?
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
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No felix, it's the fruits they bear inside of what they preach.
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Oh Really? My christian duty is to just to warn people who err, not argue and force them to make them understand if they are not willing. If they don't listen but even change Christ's own words with their twisted mind, my savior had asked me to shake the dust off my feet. keep it that way for you. Thank you and we will meet in Judgment.
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Your christian duty is to draw people into 'obedience' to Christ with Hitler doctrine but deny eternal salvation? Who's forcing who here? You might as well spit on his grave while you're at it. Twisted mind, eh. lol.
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Has anyone seen the movie fight club, where his job was to make soap, but he was giving back to people their own fat without them knowing it. That's what the devil does to false prophets.
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Neither does Peter agree with you ...
2Pet 2:1-22 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, [and] bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast [them] down to hell and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, [one of] eight [people,] a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned [them] to destruction, making [them] an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; and delivered righteous Lot, [who was] oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented [his] righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing [their] lawless deeds)— [then] the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. [They are] presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord. But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, [and] will receive the wages of unrighteousness, [as] those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. [They are] spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. [They have] a heart trained in covetous practices, [and are] accursed children. They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the [son] of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever. For when they speak great swelling [words] of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known [it,] to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: [ "A dog returns to his own vomit,"] and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
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Lol, I think that went right over your head there sir. That's ok, we'll take things slower.
If you had read what I said in the OP, you would of noticed I also mentioned eternal life. Where are your scriptures that confirm eternal life felix? You seemed to have skipped over that part.
Sorry, I am a little late in answering this, I missed it. Anyhoo...
Through Christ...
Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Joh 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Joh 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
Joh 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
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Respectfully noted, well I do appreciate scripture, but how would you obtain salvation in your own words?
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Interesting, but a sinner hates God, why would he want to obey him? And also, doesn't scripture also say the devil is a deceiver?
You still haven't mention your scriptures on eternal salvation...again.
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The correct way to say this, is there is only one way, through Christ.
What are you going to do, tell an atheist to start obeying God and read scripture?
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Good point!
We are called to the obedience of faith, obedience to the gospel. This means to walk in the spirit.
To keep the law of faith and love.
The simplicity of Christ. Believe in Him, and love as He gave commandment.
For all the law is fulfilled in ONE WORD. so all obedience is fulfilled in faith working by love.
As Paul said "nothing profits anything but faith working by love" Think of any requirement in scripture Old or New and faith working by love has fulfilled it.
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Blessings. 
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Some people does not even know what they are posting...
1John 3:16 By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down [our] lives for the brethren.
1John 3:17 But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?
1John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth.
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Yes I agree some do not know what they are posting. lol
The truth of love is known in the Cross, it is written in the Person of My Lord Jesus. It is defined in many scriptures.
I personally like the way Paul descibes in in 1 Cor 13. But I must say that John was the "disciple in whom Jesus loved" I find great comfort and confidence in His gospel and epistles.
I also am the disciple in whom Jesus loves. Now some would say that is pride? But His love humbles a believer, and is without doubt the most important thing they have, so it is with great humility I carry this title. It is when we can give this love to others that we find true life. Abundant life is when we know we are loved and we dared to love others as He loves us. All the law is fulfilled in this. Faith working by love!
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Matt 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Matt 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
Matt 7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
Matt 7:24 "Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock:
Matt 7:25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
Matt 7:26 "But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand:
Matt 7:27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall."
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Another wonderful post, Mitspa.