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How to Find False Prophets Using Scripture

Edward said:
It's hard for me to understand how so much distortion and twisting of scripture goes on today. People pick and choose what they like and put down the rest of it? how can this be? The scripture IS our source for knowledge and the only source to be trusted. Yes, even pauls writings, even Genesis, all of it. 66 books by forty authors and (I believe) every single word is the inspired word of God.

The scriptures are our gift from God. To be cherished and looked to everyday for our guidance and instruction. There is no other reliable source of information. God does not make mistakes. He has fulfilled his responsibility to provide for the tools we need to seek and find Him. It is up to us to accept it and learn from it. I think that the biggest indicator of a false prophet nowadays is those that will not hold to the scriptures as the Word of God. Of course some of it makes us uncomfortable. This is the time to do some soul searching rather than denounce the teaching we have read. Teaching tolerance to sin is very dangerous and those who do this will be held accountable. God is not a liar and God doesn't make mistakes. He who has ears let them hear.
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No one at anytime has approved sin or its tolerance on this thread. period! the issue is not about sin but about the character and nature of God. Now even if sin was at issue? the only biblical answer to sin is grace and walking in the spirit. There is no other solution in the bible, anyone who teaches that guilt and fear overcomes sin, is just ignorant of the truth. It is the GOODNESS of God that leads men to repentance. All this other stuff , is just a bunch of religious nonsense.
 
Edward said:
Agreed. Sorry, I actually was thinking about a different thread when I made the comment about teaching tolerance to sin. I have not seen that in this thread, but it does take place on the board. I was sort of answering the OP moreso than engaging in the present conversation. My apologies if this added confusion where none was needed. ;)
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My brother edward, NO MAN has the biblical right to judge sin in another until they themselves have been changed by Gods love and mercy. Until they have overcome their own flesh, by the Spirit of Grace they CANNOT judge anything as it relates to Gods righteousness. Those who are spiritual may judge, because they themself know that its by Gods Grace they have been delivered. They judge no man after the flesh as the Lord Himself said. Basically a man in the flesh has no righteous ability to judge another mans flesh. This is shown to us as clear as day by the example of the pharisee. A man that preaches anger and condemnation, and looks for others sin, has NO CLUE about God nor has God called him to correct others.
This is the battle that has been going on, on this thread.
None here have, that I have read have encouraged sin, but the one who accuses others. For the strength of sin is the law. The ministry of death and condemnation. Any who promote such things are in fact giving strength to sin. ONLY grace gives the power over sin, and only grace teachers have the biblical right to correct other believers, because they do it based upon Gods Love and Gods power. All else is false.
 
Deborah13 said:
So what is the fruit of the Spirit? LOVE
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Why do you miss the rest?

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
 
reba said:
Section 2: Specific Rules, Guidelines and Processes (the “meat” of the ToS)

 2.1: This is a Christian site, therefore, any attempt to put down Christianity and the basic tenets of our Faith will be considered a hostile act. Please read: Statement of Faith

We consider Paul's writings to be part of the inspired Word of God. This is a Christian forum and any posting(s) that is intended to purposely distort Paul's writings will not be tolerated.
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Is it possible to know if the Bible mentioned in ToS is the same Scripture mentioned by Christ?

The reason I ask is, I am not talking about the 'American' version of 'Bible' here but what Christ mentioned as Scripture in Gospels 2000 years back.
 
felix said:
Why do you miss the rest?

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
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Because if one has love and operates (behaves) in love they will do and have all the rest. They will have joy, peace, long-suffering (patience), kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. (love)
 
felix said:
Is it possible to know if the Bible mentioned in ToS is the same Scripture mentioned by Christ?

The reason I ask is, I am not talking about the 'American' version of 'Bible' here but what Christ mentioned as Scripture in Gospels 2000 years back.
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As per the TOS, this forum recognizes the entire Bible as sacred Scripture.
 
Deborah13 said:
Because if one has love and operates (behaves) in love they will do and have all the rest. They will have joy, peace, long-suffering (patience), kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. (love)
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So, if someone have love will do all rest, isn't "doing all the rest" fruits?

Let me post what prompted you to ask me:

felix said:
Unfortunately, Christ disagrees with you. It is not what they preach but what "fruits" they bear.
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Why are you making a fool of yourself by twisting the Truth?
 
felix said:
Is it possible to know if the Bible mentioned in ToS is the same Scripture mentioned by Christ?

The reason I ask is, I am not talking about the 'American' version of 'Bible' here but what Christ mentioned as Scripture in Gospels 2000 years back.
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The Bible NT translated into english was translated from the Greek just like every other Bible NT in the world in any language.
The isn't any American Bible.

What Bible do you use?
 
Free said:
As per the TOS, this forum recognizes the entire Bible as sacred Scripture.
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Thanks Free for clarification. I was referring 'Scripture' as the same definition used by Christ in Luke 24:44-45. But I never put down Christianity nor said Paul's writings are not inspired.
 
Deborah13 said:
The Bible NT translated into english was translated from the Greek just like every other Bible NT in the world in any language.
The isn't any American Bible.

What Bible do you use?
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The reason why I referred 'American' is because, reba wants me to use 'American English' or 'English'.

However, neither Christ nor His disciples or apostles never referred their own letters as Scripture. Nor did the early church used apostles letters as Scripture. I am just speaking about the 'definition of Scripture'.
 
felix said:
What you agreed with urk at post #42 and refer #99.
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I must assume you are joking, right? You mentioned "fruits". I merely posted Love as fruit of the Spirit.

I just noticed that you quote from the NKJV, which is one of the same translations we use.
Does your NKJV read the same as mine in the verse below?
Romans 2:4

New King James Version (NKJV)

4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
 
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felix said:
Why are you making a fool of yourself by twisting the Truth?
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So is this guy allowed to insult others on this forum at will?
So he insults and insults until he provokes others and then those who have tried to behave in a "christian" manner are accused of acting contrary to the rules?
I would like nothing better than to take this guys whip and give him a few stripes, but I and others try to maintain the standard the forum has ask of us.

I have seen nothing but bitterness and anger mixed with a complete dogma of condemnation and biblical nonsense.
 
Agape said:
What's the definition of scripture?
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Luke 24:44 Then He said to them, "These [are] the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and [the] Prophets and [the] Psalms concerning Me."
Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

Scripture includes Law of Moses, Prophets and Psalms.
 
felix said:
Luke 24:44 Then He said to them, "These [are] the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and [the] Prophets and [the] Psalms concerning Me."
Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

Scripture includes Law of Moses, Prophets and Psalms.
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includes but is not limited to the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.
TND an I already mentioned Peter earlier but there is more evidence that the NT quoted itself as Scripture.
When Paul wrote to Timothy (1 Timothy 5:18), he quoted a passage from Luke as Scripture (second quotation, cf. Luke 10:7. The first quotation is from Deuteronomy 25:4)
 
Deborah13 said:
I must assume you are joking, right? You mentioned "fruits". I merely posted Love as fruit of the Spirit.

I just noticed that you quote from the NKJV, which is one of the same translations we use.
Does your NKJV read the same as mine in the verse below?
Romans 2:4

New King James Version (NKJV)

4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
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Yes, you asked the question but answered only one fruit and ignored all the rest that are works from fruit of the Spirit. Just to clarify, does fruits means what they 'do' or what they 'preach' (as urk is saying) with respect to Matt 7:15-20? Since my reply has some specific context attached, coming out of no where and replying to it which is not addressed to you will make me have the same assumption about the person to whom the post was originally made. So, it is better to go back a bit to get some context on that post to allow any misunderstandings.
 
felix said:
Luke 24:44 Then He said to them, "These [are] the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and [the] Prophets and [the] Psalms concerning Me."
Luke 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

Scripture includes Law of Moses, Prophets and Psalms.
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Well this explains alot! he dont believe in the New Testament.

Funny I know I have seen him pick out over and over any scripture he could use to accuse others in the epistles, and book of Revelations seems to be his favorite book?

So it only true if it can be used to condemn others? satan means "accuser" he is called "the accuser of the brotheren"

his ministers mask themself as preachers of righteousness.

Good lesson for any who are trying to understand "false prophets"
 
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