I have a question for a Post-Trib advocate

[MisterE]

John 14
1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

When do we go to the Father's house? I am of the pre-trib persuasion and believe that we go to the Father's house at the time of the pre-trib Rapture.

 

[JLB]

John 14
1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”

When do we go to the Father's house? I am of the pre-trib persuasion and believe that we go to the Father's house at the time of the pre-trib Rapture.

Christians, those who are in Christ, go to heaven when we die;
to our Father’s house.

However, we can plainly see what Paul taught about the Resurrection and Rapture.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15

• We who are alive and remain… refer to those who will be raptured.
• Those who are asleep… refer to those who will be resurrected.

We see that both will occur at His coming.


Next, we see that both those who are raptured, and those who are resurrected will be caught up together to be with the Lord.

• Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17


These are the first two things that occur at the coming of the Lord.


The third thing we will discuss after you respond to this post.





JLB

 

[MisterE]

Christians, those who are in Christ, go to heaven when we die;
to our Father’s house.

However, we can plainly see what Paul taught about the Resurrection and Rapture.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15

• We who are alive and remain… refer to those who will be raptured.
• Those who are asleep… refer to those who will be resurrected.

We see that both will occur at His coming.


Next, we see that both those who are raptured, and those who are resurrected will be caught up together to be with the Lord.

• Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17


These are the first two things that occur at the coming of the Lord.


The third thing we will discuss after you respond to this post.





JLB

Thank you for responding JLB.

Let me clarify my initial question. Jesus is going to a place to prepare dwelling places for the believers. And then, he will come again and take you to be with me (in my Father's house). When does Jesus come again and take believers to his Father's house? This is not a reference to when a believer dies, or is that what you are saying?