I said this:
"Why isn't there any verse that says the free gift, which is justification (Rom 3:24, 5:15,16,17) and eternal life (Rom 6:23) are "seeds"?"
Yes, the word of God is described in a parable as seed. But no where in Scripture is the word of God described as a free gift.
This is what the Bible describes as a free gift:
indwelling Holy Spirit - Acts 8
justification - Rom 3:24, 5:15,16,17
eternal life - Rom 6:23
spiritual gifts - Rom 1:11
You made a claim, but have failed to support your claim from Scripture. Are you going to?
The Bible NEVER describes a believer as an unbeliever. Even Jesus didn't do that. They are referred to as apostates.
When the Bible mentions unbelievers, only those who have NEVER believed are meant.
Since you are making the claim that a believer becomes an unbeliever, the ONUS is on you to support your claim from Scripture.
We know that unbelievers do NOT have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Yet, Jesus promised the gift of the Holy Spirit who would be "with us" forever.
We know that unbelievers are NOT saved, nor children of God. Yet, there is NO EVIDENCE from Scripture that any believer who no longer believes is not saved nor a child of God anymore.
Not only is eternal life a gift of God, God's gifts are irrevocable (Rom 6:23 and 11:29).
Further, those who believe are sealed with the Holy Spirit for the day of redemption, proving that this seal cannot be broken before the day of redemption.
We know the seal cannot be broken because this specific seal is NEVER said to be broken by God nor anyone else.
"Why isn't there any verse that says the free gift, which is justification (Rom 3:24, 5:15,16,17) and eternal life (Rom 6:23) are "seeds"?"
First, your comment in response to what I said has no relevance to it at all. Second, you failed to answer the question. Third, you also failed to support your earlier claim about a free gift being the gospel message.There is only one way to be saved - sorry you don't believe Jesus.
11 “Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved. Luke 8:12-13
Yes, the word of God is described in a parable as seed. But no where in Scripture is the word of God described as a free gift.
This is what the Bible describes as a free gift:
indwelling Holy Spirit - Acts 8
justification - Rom 3:24, 5:15,16,17
eternal life - Rom 6:23
spiritual gifts - Rom 1:11
You made a claim, but have failed to support your claim from Scripture. Are you going to?
Those who believe for a while, then no longer believe, have become un-believers!
13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away. Luke 8:13
The Bible NEVER describes a believer as an unbeliever. Even Jesus didn't do that. They are referred to as apostates.
When the Bible mentions unbelievers, only those who have NEVER believed are meant.
Since you are making the claim that a believer becomes an unbeliever, the ONUS is on you to support your claim from Scripture.
We know that unbelievers do NOT have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Yet, Jesus promised the gift of the Holy Spirit who would be "with us" forever.
We know that unbelievers are NOT saved, nor children of God. Yet, there is NO EVIDENCE from Scripture that any believer who no longer believes is not saved nor a child of God anymore.
Agricultural metaphor about usefulness or lack of being useful. Has nothing to do with loss of salvation.again
5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6-7JLB
Not only is eternal life a gift of God, God's gifts are irrevocable (Rom 6:23 and 11:29).
Further, those who believe are sealed with the Holy Spirit for the day of redemption, proving that this seal cannot be broken before the day of redemption.
We know the seal cannot be broken because this specific seal is NEVER said to be broken by God nor anyone else.