Imminent Destruction of the United States

[Kevin Snow]

No sir.

4 kingdoms.

From verse 40 he is describing the fourth kingdom that was a world governing kingdom.

And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. 41 Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay.


Verse 41 is a continuing description of that kingdom which is the Roman Empire.

The legs of iron describe it during the days of John while the iron and clay describe it in the last days when it’s divided up into 10 regions and ruled by the 10 kings with the antichrist.


The club of Rome has the earth divided up into 10 regions right now.

The European Union is the prototype.


It’s symbol is a woman riding on a beast with 13 stars.

I will provide some pics in the next post.



36 “This is the dream. Now we will tell the interpretation of it before the king. 37 You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory; 38 and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all—you are this head of gold. 39 But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth. 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others. 41 Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly [m]fragile. 43 As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall [n]break in pieces and [o]consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold—the great God has made known to the king what will come to pass after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation is sure.” Daniel 2:36-45



JLB

You've got yourself mixed up. The scriptures clearly state that Rome is the 6th Babylon and that can't be argued. What you do next is up to you. If your model uses Rome as the 8th Babylon, the Beast, or as the prostitute, the 7th Babylon, then you are simply missing the plain historical context of Revelations. Everything else you list about symbols and all that has nothing to do with the fulfillment of scripture.

Now I show without a shadow of doubt that Macedonia under Alexander is the Iron nation for it fulfills the passage when it says "they mix with the seed of men" and this is the reason they are iron and clay. It says actually in another vision, the vision of the ram and goat that this nation is broken up into 4 parts to the four winds of heaven; NOT 10 parts. You are splicing end times prophecy with Christ's first coming prophecy and you must not do that. My book shows in history that indeed Macedonia under Alexander gets split into 4 parts just as the prophecy foretells. And the leading nation from that weak clay kingdom is Seleucia. This nation rules for a brief moment before Rome sweeps it all away. So Nebuchadnezzar's dream describes 5 nations and this is shown in history. The 5 nations in Nebuchadnezzar's dream are the same five kings who had already fallen at the time of Revelations. And this is simple to see. This is the only model that describes the history of the kingdoms to fulfill the scripture that Rome is the 6th Babylon. Rome cannot possibly be the 7th because it does not last "for a little while" at all but it lasts longer than any other Babylon in history. Rome was in power at the time of the writing of Revelations. For you to ignore this simple fact means that you cannot possibly interpret the rest of the vision of Revelation. For it says

The words of a man’s mouth are deep waters; the fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook. ~Proverbs 18:4

And you must understand that the nature of the vision is that it is plainly and readily spoken without any secrets. But it is written for the purpose of revealing exactly who is who through history. This principle escapes your interpretation and you overcomplicate things and miss what is obviously lying before you.

 

[for_his_glory]

We must all take warning of the events which have happened in our day and of the scriptures which tell us of the things to come. You must understand that America is indeed written of in prophecy for there are many scriptures which still have their fulfillment to come before the return of Christ. If only you understood what America is in prophecy then you would see where it has been written and what we must do on account of this.

Trump's new policy of "Make America Great Again" signals the end of the status quo. As we look to our own affairs and as he begins to call out the other nations for not doing their part, we fulfill this scripture which is written:

Ah, you destroyer, who yourself have not been destroyed, you traitor, whom none has betrayed! When you have ceased to destroy, you will be destroyed; and when you have finished betraying, they will betray you. ~Isaiah 33:1

And so this will soon come upon us. For we, the United States of America, is the 7th Babylon as described in Revelations here:

they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. ~Revelation 17:10

And the fact that the 7th Babylon "must remain only a little while" is historically unchangeable that we are this nation as described. We only have about 250 years of history and are about to meet our doom. We have remained only a little while thus far and we shall not remain much longer.

I prove all of this through scripture and historical fact in an eBook which I have written. If you wish to hear the full story (and not even the full story but only what regards to the identity of America) then please read this book so that you may take warning. This book is free and is available to anyone to read. Please take the time therefore to read it as I have, as concisely as possible, put together the explanation and interpretation of the identity of America in scripture.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/672850

I couldn't open your book as the format you used is not supported on my computer.

Are you saying that President Trump is the antichrist?

Below is the seven Babylons with the last one still existing today, but a mystery to those without understanding. Daniel Chapter 2, 7, 9 describes and calls them four beast. The son of perdition comes out of the existing Roman Empire, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Rev 13, 17, 18. When Christ returns He will destroy the ruler of the fourth beast and it's false prophet by the brightness of His coming and the words He speaks that destroys them casting both into the lake of fire, 2 Thessalonian 2:3-12; Rev 19:11-21.

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

 

[Kevin Snow]

I couldn't open your book as the format you used is not supported on my computer.

Are you saying that President Trump is the antichrist?

Below is the seven Babylons with the last one still existing today, but a mystery to those without understanding. Daniel Chapter 2, 7, 9 describes and calls them four beast. The son of perdition comes out of the existing Roman Empire, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12; Rev 13, 17, 18. When Christ returns He will destroy the ruler of the fourth beast and it's false prophet by the brightness of His coming and the words He speaks that destroys them casting both into the lake of fire, 2 Thessalonian 2:3-12; Rev 19:11-21.

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo – Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The 7th Babylon, the prostitute, has nothing to do with the antichrist. The antichrist rules out of the 8th Babylon which has no city. It is also called the North Country in Daniel in the vision of the kings of the North and the South. The 7 Babylons are just what they are: 7 ruling nations of mankind. They are completely separate from the beast kingdom but the beast kingdom comes after the 7th Babylon is destroyed.

 

[Randy]

I don't see the US in scripture but for the sake of the wheat Jesus will let both the wheat and the weeds grow up together until harvest time.

In like manner.
Abraham pleaded with God for Sodom's sake, for he was a righteous man, and got God to state if he only found 10 righteous people in that city then for their sake He would hold off judgment. There are alot more than 10 kind and compassionate Christians in the Us.

Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”
He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
When the Lord had finished speaking with Abraham, he left, and Abraham returned home

Sodom was destroyed for not even 10 righteous people could be found in that city.

I see Gods judgement in the time of the end coming on people of all nations.

 

[for_his_glory]

The European Union is the prototype.

Don't forget the African Union, South American Union and not sure if North American Union has been fully established yet as the Vatican has diplomatic relations with all of them.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

If Jonah came to prophesy against the city he eventually went to, then I would expect modern day prophets to be like Jonah, (and other prophets) who listed the sins that were the reason for God's judgment on them. Jesus also did this. He warned Israel not to rebel against it's oppressors but to turn the other cheek and walk an extra mile when forced to walk one mile. Jesus said (I think through some parables) the fate of Israel rests on not accepting Jesus.

In this way, all the prophets that I am aware of that prophesied against a nation or a people stated the crimes and sins that were placed before them. In that way, like Jonah's prophesy's the people can repent and be spared.

With this in mind, Kevin Snow, I ask what sins the US has commited, in case there is a way to avoid this because the people repented. (Or at least delay the judgement because that generation repented).

 

[Kevin Snow]

If Jonah came to prophesy against the city he eventually went to, then I would expect modern day prophets to be like Jonah, (and other prophets) who listed the sins that were the reason for God's judgment on them. Jesus also did this. He warned Israel not to rebel against it's oppressors but to turn the other cheek and walk an extra mile when forced to walk one mile. Jesus said (I think through some parables) the fate of Israel rests on not accepting Jesus.

In this way, all the prophets that I am aware of that prophesied against a nation or a people stated the crimes and sins that were placed before them. In that way, like Jonah's prophesy's the people can repent and be spared.

With this in mind, Kevin Snow, I ask what sins the US has commited, in case there is a way to avoid this because the people repented. (Or at least delay the judgement because that generation repented).

Yes I speak to all of this in my book. I speak to this very thing. Please read it and get the full story.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/672850

You can get a basic eBook reader online for free. I use calibre eBook viewer.

https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/viewer.html

 

[for_his_glory]

The 7th Babylon, the prostitute, has nothing to do with the antichrist. The antichrist rules out of the 8th Babylon which has no city. It is also called the North Country in Daniel in the vision of the kings of the North and the South. The 7 Babylons are just what they are: 7 ruling nations of mankind. They are completely separate from the beast kingdom but the beast kingdom comes after the 7th Babylon is destroyed.

When one does not give scripture to help prove their point then all becomes speculation of one's own theory. Why can't you discuss the points of your book with us using scripture so we can go study those scriptures. I've written two books, but never had them published as I'm on a fixed income and can't afford to publish them, but do use them with the scriptures I give in them.

Why do you refute that which is given in scripture that names these four empires, as the last one has persecuted and annihilated more Christians than the first three. The fourth even crucified Christ. America was founded on the fourth, but yet the son of perdition does not come out of her. Search your history like many of us do.

 

[Kevin Snow]

When one does not give scripture to help prove their point then all becomes speculation of one's own theory. Why can't you discuss the points of your book with us using scripture so we can go study those scriptures. I've written two books, but never had them published as I'm on a fixed income and can't afford to publish them, but do use them with the scriptures I give in them.

Why do you refute that which is given in scripture that names these four empires, as the last one has persecuted and annihilated more Christians than the first three. The fourth even crucified Christ. America was founded on the fourth, but yet the son of perdition does not come out of her. Search your history like many of us do.

Because it is up to you to go find this out. When I unequivocally show in scripture that Rome is the 6th Babylon and that doesn't make you stop to think about your model, then we have a bigger problem here. I've shown you only 1 thing and you can't even hear that. How are you to hear the whole thing?

 

[for_his_glory]

Because it is up to you to go find this out. When I unequivocally show in scripture that Rome is the 6th Babylon and that doesn't make you stop to think about your model, then we have a bigger problem here. I've shown you only 1 thing and you can't even hear that. How are you to hear the whole thing?

Sorry, but you have shown us only what can be your opinion or theory and push us to read some book you wrote that I can not open. If your book has supporting scriptures then why can't you share them here? When one teaches another that of the word of God they include the scriptures we are to take and study them. How can one discuss scripture with another when there is none to discuss. My Bible has 1,481 pages. Do you really think I am going to search each page to understand that of what you say without giving me any scriptures to look up! Every topic of discussion is a Bible study. How do we learn if the Bible is not used?

 

[Kevin Snow]

Sorry, but you have shown us only what can be your opinion or theory and push us to read some book you wrote that I can not open. If your book has supporting scriptures then why can't you share them here? When one teaches another that of the word of God they include the scriptures we are to take and study them. How can one discuss scripture with another when there is none to discuss. My Bible has 1,481 pages. Do you really think I am going to search each page to understand that of what you say without giving me any scriptures to look up! Every topic of discussion is a Bible study. How do we learn if the Bible is not used?

You aren't actually interested in learning anything new. You only come in here and express your own opinion without proving anything or correlating it with scripture yourself. Do or do you not understand that Rome is the 6th Babylon and this one simple fact throws out your interpretation? In Revelations 17:10. Look it up and read it. I've explained it enough already. This one scripture means that Rome is the 6th Babylon and if your model doesn't align with that fact then you've entirely missed the context of scripture and we can't go any further. Read the posts and understand, that is the scripture I've provided here. If you can't accept this fact then there is no point in talking anymore about it. If you can't swallow one thing you've got wrong then why would you hear a full explanation of anything? Get this one thing down and then we can move onto the next thing.

 

[JLB]

You've got yourself mixed up. The scriptures clearly state that Rome is the 6th Babylon and that can't be argued. What you do next is up to you. If your model uses Rome as the 8th Babylon, the Beast, or as the prostitute, the 7th Babylon, then you are simply missing the plain historical context of Revelations. Everything else you list about symbols and all that has nothing to do with the fulfillment of scripture.

Now I show without a shadow of doubt that Macedonia under Alexander is the Iron nation for it fulfills the passage when it says "they mix with the seed of men" and this is the reason they are iron and clay. It says actually in another vision, the vision of the ram and goat that this nation is broken up into 4 parts to the four winds of heaven; NOT 10 parts. You are splicing end times prophecy with Christ's first coming prophecy and you must not do that. My book shows in history that indeed Macedonia under Alexander gets split into 4 parts just as the prophecy foretells. And the leading nation from that weak clay kingdom is Seleucia. This nation rules for a brief moment before Rome sweeps it all away. So Nebuchadnezzar's dream describes 5 nations and this is shown in history. The 5 nations in Nebuchadnezzar's dream are the same five kings who had already fallen at the time of Revelations. And this is simple to see. This is the only model that describes the history of the kingdoms to fulfill the scripture that Rome is the 6th Babylon. Rome cannot possibly be the 7th because it does not last "for a little while" at all but it lasts longer than any other Babylon in history. Rome was in power at the time of the writing of Revelations. For you to ignore this simple fact means that you cannot possibly interpret the rest of the vision of Revelation. For it says

The words of a man’s mouth are deep waters; the fountain of wisdom is a bubbling brook. ~Proverbs 18:4

And you must understand that the nature of the vision is that it is plainly and readily spoken without any secrets. But it is written for the purpose of revealing exactly who is who through history. This principle escapes your interpretation and you overcomplicate things and miss what is obviously lying before you.

Go ahead and post the scripture that says Rome is the 6th Babylon.

 

[Kevin Snow]

Go ahead and post the scripture that says Rome is the 6th Babylon.

I did already.

 

[JLB]

Don't forget the African Union, South American Union and not sure if North American Union has been fully established yet as the Vatican has diplomatic relations with all of them.

All of them.

 

[JLB]

I did already.

I’ve seen no such scripture.

What is the post number?

 

[Kevin Snow]

I’ve seen no such scripture.

What is the post number?

In Revelations 17:10.

Really? You're not even reading the posts. There are plenty of posts where I quote this scripture on top of that. This is stupid.

 

[JLB]

Really? You're not even reading the posts. There are plenty of posts where I quote this scripture on top of that. This is stupid.

There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. Revelation 17:10

There is no mention of Rome being the six Babylon in this scripture.


Did you by any chance mean to quote another scripture?



JLB

 

[Kevin Snow]

There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. Revelation 17:10

There is no mention of Rome being the six Babylon in this scripture.


Did you by any chance mean to quote another scripture?



JLB

What is the historical context of this scripture?

 

[for_his_glory]

You aren't actually interested in learning anything new. You only come in here and express your own opinion without proving anything or correlating it with scripture yourself. Do or do you not understand that Rome is the 6th Babylon and this one simple fact throws out your interpretation? In Revelations 17:10. Look it up and read it. I've explained it enough already. This one scripture means that Rome is the 6th Babylon and if your model doesn't align with that fact then you've entirely missed the context of scripture and we can't go any further. Read the posts and understand, that is the scripture I've provided here. If you can't accept this fact then there is no point in talking anymore about it. If you can't swallow one thing you've got wrong then why would you hear a full explanation of anything? Get this one thing down and then we can move onto the next thing.

That attitude is not going to get you very far with many of us in here. Pride goeth before a fall.

I have already shown using many scriptures in many of my post that of the seven kings and the four beast Empires. The seventh one, who in it's own right with it's own government and banking system and has diplomatic ties with every nation around the world is described in Daniel 2, 7, 9; Rev 13-17 that was, is not, but yet to come.

I will post it once again even though you refuse to read it or understand it.

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13. (Rev 17 What was was the Roman Empire) (Rev 17 What is not)The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon’s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. (Rev 17 but yet to come) The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to the Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Western Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire). The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.

 

[Truth7t7]

Daniel 11:36-45 is a prophecy of a willful king not a Jew who will not regard the God of his fathers. The king in Daniel's time was a Nebuchadnezzar, one of the many kings of Babylon beginning with Nimrod, the son of Cush, the Grandson of Ham, great grandson of Noah. Nimrod and those kings of Babylon never regarded the God of their Fathers and rebelled against God teaching others to follow their ways as they have continued to do so through all four Empires with the last one existing even today.

Your interpretation is in error, as the King of Daniel 11:37 is the future antichrist of Daniel that will bring the Abomination of desolation as seen in Matthew 24:15 below.

The very clear scripture below proves your interpretation of this being fulfilled in Babylon, during the time of Nimrod- Nebuchadnezzar 100% false.

Jesus Christ spoke of this being "Unfulfilled" in his life, as seen below in Matthew 24:15, will you be corrected in your error?

(Quote, for_his_glory: "That attitude is not going to get you very far with many of us in here. Pride goeth before a fall".)

Matthew 24:15KJV
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

Daniel 11:31-37KJV
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.