In Matt and Mark... He said nothing.
And then there is...
John 5:19 So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does.
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In John 5:25-29 Jesus confirmed the dead will have a chance to obey His voice while still in the grave
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And then there is...
John 5:19 So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does.
What time have I cited, repeatedly?
I'm sure everyone reading knows. But you, you can't hear Jesus. That is really odd for a Christian:
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.
19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.
(Jn. 5:18-19 NKJ)
That time of course.
So what did Jesus say?
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That is just to mention three of the more well known times where this happened.
So what does that have to do with the theme of this thread?
You mention I can not hear Jesus but you are referencing things you have posted... are you now saying you are Jesus?
You can't tell me what Jesus said because you cannot hear Him. Until you can, we're done.
Incredible. Quoted the words, used bold and red font, and he still can't tell me what Jesus said!!!
I did... post #161.
And you say people can't hear Jesus... but you refer to your own writings.
That is you saying you are Jesus... or just not being clear in your communications.
Now answer me what John 5:19 has to do with the damned changing their mind in Hell and being forgiven?
You can't hear Jesus, or you would explain His answer to the Pharisees. Did Jesus deny He was equal to God or not? What did Jesus say?
Why can't you hear Him?
You didn't ask me to explain what Jesus said... you asked what He said.
Those are two different questions.
Please be specific in your questions if you want specific answers.
Please answer the specific question I have asked.
"Now answer me what John 5:19 has to do with the damned changing their mind in Hell and being forgiven?"
You can't hear Jesus, or you would explain His answer to the Pharisees.
Did Jesus deny He was equal to God or not? What did Jesus say?
Why can't you hear Him?
Why can you not answer a simple question?
What does this have to do with damned in Hell changing their mind and being forgiven?
Where does this verse fit in the discussion of this thread?
But to answer your silly little questions.
Jesus did not deny He was equal to God.
What Jesus said is what has been posted in Post #161.
Now what does this verse have to do with the original premise of this thread?
You can't hear Jesus, or you would explain His answer to the Pharisees.
Did Jesus deny He was equal to God or not? What did Jesus say?
Why can't you hear Him?
Explain what He said, what it means.
Did Jesus deny He was equal to God or not? What did He say that proved He is equal with God?
How does it prove it?
Why can't you hear Jesus?
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I did answer you in the previous post. #170.
Now answer my question.
Or are you just a dog with a bone... to distracted to look up.
You can't hear Jesus prove He is equal with God. And its on His proof I base my argument. So there is no point trying to explain it to you.
You can't hear it.
Until you can tell me what Christ said to prove He is equal with God, there is no point to this. Its upon Christ's proof I base my argument.
But you can't hear Jesus, so of course you can't hear me.
I already answered your question.
Maybe you missed it.
So you are now saying that you speak for Jesus?
Until I can puzzle out the exact words you want me to say, your knowledge is too far beyond that of mortal man?
So you answer your own question please.
What did Jesus say to prove He is equal to God?
Can you even answer your own question?
Until you can tell me what Christ said to prove He is equal with God, there is no point to this. Its upon Christ's proof I base my argument.
So you have special knowledge do you.
How very gnostic of you.
You won't even answer the question you yourself pose.
Why should anyone invest time in your ideas if you will not share the basis for your ideas.
And you are very rudely saying that I don't hear Jesus... but you refuse to state what hearing Jesus would be.
If you hear Jesus... what did Jesus say to prove He is equal with God?
Or do you not hear Jesus?
Until you can tell me what Christ said to prove He is equal with God, there is no point to this.
Its upon Christ's proof I base my argument.
But you cannot hear Christ's proof, therefore you cannot hear me.
Maybe I could hear you if you were to maybe answer a question.
Until you answer the questions we will keep going with all this nonsense.
This is just showing your refusal to engage with the arguments.
And all this back and forth just weakens your argument.
Just answer the question and we can start moving forward.
What do you say Jesus said to prove He is equal with God?
I have given my answer... now it is your turn.
Until you can EXPLAIN what Christ said to prove He is equal with God, there is no point to this.
Its upon Christ's proof I base my argument.
But you cannot hear Christ's proof, therefore you cannot hear me.
So you don't know what Jesus said to prove He is equal with God?
Why should I have to pass a test to continue a conversation?
Also... I have answered your question... but here is my answer again.
John 5:23-27.
That is the words that are recorded... and I have no reason to disbelieve their accuracy.
So that is what Jesus said.
I don't think a copy/paste is required as you claim to have special knowledge of these verses.
So why are you so scared to continue the conversation?
Why are you hiding your insights until I give a certain code phrase?
Do you not want to teach? Are you not here to spread knowledge?