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. I just finished watching this videoThis is fairly typical of the joy of a CoC congregation. Just not what I feel Jesus came to teach us.
Please don't think so highly of yourself as to pity them. How many congregations have you been to where nobody even says hi to you?Could be, but since I only go about once a year, they can't stop me. Not sure they could if I went there. Do you know how many people came up to me after the service and told me that the church needed me to become a member? It was actually kind of funny if it weren't so sad.
Are you able to seriously and honestly say you see joy in that congregation? Certainly, the singing is good. It ought to be. Those congregations take great pride in their singing, and practice hard. Where I am now, the congregation doesn't sound half as good, but it is a joyful noise... not a rigid ritual.. I just finished watching this video
I thought it was absolutely beautiful. Why do you try to steal my joy in the matter?
I don't like Brussels sprouts. They honestly make me gag. But I don't tell my wife she's doing something wrong if she puts them on the table for her to eat. I'm happy that she enjoys them
In the same manner, please reserve your self righteous attitude. Now your calling the kettle black
Are you able to seriously and honestly say you see joy in that congregation? Certainly, the singing is good. It ought to be. Those congregations take great pride in their singing, and practice hard. Where I am now, the congregation doesn't sound half as good, but it is a joyful noise... not a rigid ritual.
No, not at all. Certainly not Calvary Chapel.Is it in any way shape or form connected to Rick Joyner's church?
tob
*edit: or the Calvary Chapel?
AMEN!So, now you know to simply not look at Rick Joyner videos. That's a good thing to learn.
Yes indeed there was one guy (with the grey hair and goatee) that was actually smiling and showing joy! (I mean that sarcastically by the way. Why only ONE out of that many singers???)Listen to the words. This should be a CELEBRATION! Do any of the faces reflect that sort of thinking? Where the voices go up (possibly indicating joy) notice that it is all in trained unison, as the song leader directs them to be louder at certain parts. That is kind of sad.
Amen, our LORD even saves old drunks that play guitars and harmonicas. And, as I read scripture, He wants us to devote the gifts He created us for to be used to praise Him. And everywhere i ever lead music or did specials at, somebody I had never known before would approach me before I was loaded up and with the right hand of fellowship and oft a hug they would tell me that worshiping with me filled their heart with a joy they just wanted the LORD to feel. When I get to worship God there is a joy in my heart that they say pours out. I have never witnessed it because I want my eyes closed as much as possible so that I am alone with God.Yes indeed there was one guy (with the grey hair and goatee) that was actually smiling and showing joy! (I mean that sarcastically by the way. Why only ONE out of that many singers???)
In reality I loved the singing and wish there was a congregation near me that would sing like that. But they also have to show joy in doing it. And I can't for the life of me understand why there would be anything wrong with adding appropriate music to their singing either. I can't find a thing in scripture supporting the prohibition of musical instruments of any kind, in fact, I find the opposite!
"Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
praise him with timbrel and dancing,
praise him with the strings and pipe,
praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals."
(Ps 150:3-5 NIV)
Yes indeed there was one guy (with the grey hair and goatee) that was actually smiling and showing joy! (I mean that sarcastically by the way. Why only ONE out of that many singers???)
In reality I loved the singing and wish there was a congregation near me that would sing like that. But they also have to show joy in doing it. And I can't for the life of me understand why there would be anything wrong with adding appropriate music to their singing either. I can't find a thing in scripture supporting the prohibition of musical instruments of any kind, in fact, I find the opposite!
"Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
praise him with timbrel and dancing,
praise him with the strings and pipe,
praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals."
(Ps 150:3-5 NIV)
I get it.... You don't like Brussels sprouts so you can't see how others think they taste good.Are you able to seriously and honestly say you see joy in that congregation? Certainly, the singing is good. It ought to be. Those congregations take great pride in their singing, and practice hard. Where I am now, the congregation doesn't sound half as good, but it is a joyful noise... not a rigid ritual.
Ah! I wondered about that. It just seemed too picture perfect. I've NEVER seen ANY congregation look so perfect unless they knew they were being watched or recorded for something special! The orderliness did look nice if a little stiff. But since it was a special thing for the filming, that explains it....Keep in mind the video was staged. You won't go into any church of Christ and find every seat occupied and you won't see everyone holding their hymnal in front of them in the way depicted. It's like that picture of a whopper at bk. it's picture perfect until you open the box to get yours...
I don't know that anyone was belittling them for singing acapela, just expressing our own ideas. (Which we have the right to have as well.) However I still maintain that actually prohibiting instruments (IF this is what they actually do, as opposed to just choosing to sing certain songs acapela from time to time for the beauty of it) isn't Biblical based on the passage from Psalms that I quoted above....Anyway, somebody tell me what's wrong with not having musical instruments. You all may think it's odd, and that's ok. But don't belittle us for not having them. It's our choice and to be honest, if you NEED musical instruments to worship God, then maybe ya all need to revisit what worship is...
Yeah, I think we all understood that. At least I did.As a member of the church of Christ, the churches of Christ do have music, vocal music. Music is of two kinds, vocal and instrumental.
God bless,
Webb
TO BE DEEP IN SCRIPTURE IS TO CASE BEING CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT AND JEW -- Webb