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Is it possible to be a born again Christian and a liberal

jgredline said:
Vic
As far as Outsiders looking in, I pray that God will protect them. There are many false teachers on this board and many young lambs that can be lead astray.
I will do my best to defend the true Gospel Of Jesus Christ who is God.
I just can't sit back and do and say nothing. How often do these false teachers even visit the prayer and praise threads. 0 Why is that?
I have visited other forums in the past and none of them have the kind of madness that is allowed to go on here in complete violation of TOS.
Vic
If you want me to leave, I will respect that and leave. Just let me know.
Thanks javier
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Oh really? Here is a link from another site in which they are both praising and putting down Joyce Meyers:

http://www.ibelieve.com/joyce_meyer/m_71960/tm.htm

The difference? It's all in the attitude. People here don't want to defend the Faith unless they can do it in a hateful way. That looks absolutely terrible from a nonbeliever's point of view. When I do something about it, I am told I am censoring. When I do nothing, I am accused of allowing the devil himself to take over the site. So... don't blame me: take a good, hard look at yourselves (without pride) and see if you are really being led by the Spirit of Truth or the spirit of flesh.

What we should probably do is ban everyone and just allow the Lord to post, since He is the only one with the whole truth and knows when to turn on the righteous indignation and turn on the Godly charm He posseses.

If you leave, you leave on your own accord. I'm not asking you to leave.
 
Hi Vic,


Vic wrote:
take a good, hard look at yourselves (without pride) and see if you are really being led by the Spirit of Truth or the spirit of flesh.
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I know this was not directed to me specifically, but I knew that it definitely applied to me because I can be so prideful. I was very convicted by these words, Vic, and am ashamed of mself. I apologize for those times that I post in my flesh. I apologize to you, to my other brothers and sisters here, and to our Father. I know that those who love me here will easily forgive my past sin in this, and any future sin too, as God does. I am grateful to my family in Christ for the mercy, and forgiveness, that they will surely extend to me on behalf of our Father. I am also grateful for the Truth that you have shared here, and grateful that God has allowed me to hear it in order to correct me, and keep me from future temptation. I am grateful for the opportunity to confess my sin to all of you, and repent openly. I know that I should use more Scripture in my posts, and pray over each one dilligently, but I fail to do this too much of the time. I will commit and strive, by the grace of God, to improve my efforts. Thanks for the reminder. It is by God's grace alone that I know the Truth, and have the Spirit in me, and I do not want to now try and continue on in my own flesh to be sure. The Lord bless you, and thank you in advance for your forgiveness, brother.
 
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

2 tim 1:7-8
7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. 8 Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me His prisoner, but share with me in the sufferings for the gospel according to the power of God,

Hebrews 11:16
But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.
 
Thanks, javier, for the Scriptures on being ashamed. Very good, and very inspiring. I never really thought of walking in the flesh as being ashamed of God. I never connected it that way. I do not want to be ashamed of Him, but walk boldly in the Spirit, and die to myself. Thanks again, that was so great, and encouraging. The Lord bless you.
 
"O taste and see that the Lord is good! Happy is the man who takes refuge in him!" PSALM 34:8 RSV

"And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving on another, as God in Christ forgave you." EPHESIans 4:32 RSV

jgredline I forgive you for calling me all those terrible names. I pray that your anger turns to happiness as you turn to the Lord.
 
vic said:
So... don't blame me: take a good, hard look at yourselves (without pride) and see if you are really being led by the Spirit of Truth or the spirit of flesh.
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That's a bit of an oxymoron Vic. 'spirit of the flesh' . . . :-?
 
Why ye say this? :) If the spirit of Truth is the Holy Spirit that comes from God, then the spirit of flesh must come from, er, not God. :lol: a.k.a., evil spirit a.k.a., satan.

It sounded good when I wrote it and the message is clear enough. Are you looking for some loophole that will allow you to post in that fashon? :wink: The Good Lord knows we have more than enough of that already. :o
 
That's a bit of an oxymoron Vic. 'spirit of the flesh'
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mutzrein

What Vic was trying to do is express that this type of posting was a warning to those that can not keep cool but are led away from the Spirit of God. As an outsider looking in (myself) it does not look good and therefore can be used as a stumbling block to on over-looker just passing by. To come back with the statement I quoted was uncalled for.
 
vic said:
Why ye say this? :) If the spirit of Truth is the Holy Spirit that comes from God, then the spirit of flesh must come from, er, not God. :lol: a.k.a., evil spirit a.k.a., satan.

It sounded good when I wrote it and the message is clear enough. Are you looking for some loophole that will allow you to post in that fashon? :wink: The Good Lord knows we have more than enough of that already. :o
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Hehe - I was afraid you might think that way. :wink: Beyond saying that I can see no support for your statement in scripture (and that raises some pithy questions), I do understand what you were trying to say. Should I just let it go or should I reason with you? :P
 
vic said:
then the spirit of flesh must come from, er, not God. : a.k.a., evil spirit a.k.a., satan.
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Vic
is it not being hypicritical?
spirit of flesh must come from, er, not God. : a.k.a., evil spirit a.k.a., satan.
 This is amazing to me.
 
Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

I understood you just fine Vic..
 
Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

8-)
 
vic said:
Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

8-)
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So Vic
Let me understand this. Its ok for you to tell people they are not God. : a.k.a., evil spirit a.k.a., satan. but not for others to do this?
 
jgredline said:
So Vic
Let me understand this. Its ok for you to tell people they are not God. : a.k.a., evil spirit a.k.a., satan. but not for others to do this?
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I never said that. Please don't misquote me. 8-) What I suggested was that people think twice before saying something that may be unbecoming for a Christian.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Its ok for you to tell people they are not God
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I have every right to tell someone they are not God. Watch:

You, are not God. :)
 
Ah - don't ya love it Vic!! We can get some more mileage outa this yet. :wink:

There is a man of the flesh and a man of the Spirit
You can be born of the flesh and you can be born of the Spirit.
You can be led of the flesh and you can be led of the Spirit.
You can die to the flesh and walk in the Spirit.

Sadly though, you can also start with the Spirit and then try to achieve your goals by the flesh.

There is nothing more diametrically opposed than the flesh and the Spirit. One leads to righteousness that comes through faith and the other leads to self righteousness.

You cannot mix the two in the way you have mentioned them.

Another verse I will add is: "the Spirit gives life and the flesh counts for nothing."
 
jgredline said:
I appologize.
I mis read what You wrote.
Jg
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No harm, it's all good.

Mutz, lets drop it. Like I said earlier, too much tension around here.

Ii still love ya both. :)
 
Tension? Who's tense? Not me - which reminds me of a joke but I'll save it . . .

What was the OP again? Oh yeah, anyway - we see now what liberalism has done. :)
 
Mutz
What ever you wrote in a weird sort of way makes sense to me.
I went back and read my post and exchange that I had with Soma and to be honest I have no regrets of what I have said.

2 TIM 3:1-9
1 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.

Did I act out in the flesh, perhaps, but only because I can't sit back and say nothing when people bring in thier destructive doctrines. I will start using more scripture though.

Well blessing to you mutz
 
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