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1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings.
2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” (this is a comment that Jesus made to his disciples as they walked out of the temple heading towards the Mount of Olives)
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (This is a later time then the first comment that Jesus made to his disciples.)
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. (Now Jesus begins telling them of many things that are going to be happening up to the end of the age.)
5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— (Now Jesus has come back to answer the questions asked and he begins by telling them more specifically about the destruction of the temple that came in 70 A.D.)
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house.
18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak.
19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. (Jesus is now moving to what will be the sign of his coming.)
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.
24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.
27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. (this is the end of the age)
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. (Here, he circles back around to the destruction of the temple and notes that it is the beginning of all of this times of trouble and great tribulation to come.)
33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Three questions. Three answers.
But look, you've read the Scriptures through and you 've come to this one point of which you don't seem to be able to understand what Jesus meant when he said it, and on that you're basing the fact that it's good for you to not have fallen into the trap all those others who say they are christians have fallen into. You know! The blind leading the blind and all that, right?
I've offered you now a perfectly logical and completely sensible explanation. That this passage shows Jesus answering three question asked of him by his disciples. One of those answers was something that was going to happen before the generation standing before him had all passed away. That did happen. As I explained Antichus Epiphanies desecrated the temple and then destroyed it with his armies. The rest of Jesus' response was to answer the other two questions. And they do. He tells them of the signs that they should keep watch for that would bring on his return and then tells them the signs they will see of the end of the age.
It's all really very plain and simple. Although, even us believers have made this passage tougher than it needs to be. Jesus doesn't lie. He could not have lied to us. If he did he would not be the Messiah and Daniel's prophetic account would not have been fulfilled.
If you would like to know more about 'who' Jesus is, I'll be happy to help. But if you're intent is to continue living in ignorance because you believe that you have found a piece of God's word that denies the truth of God's word? Naaaah! That ain't happenin'.
God bless,
Ted
No, the end of the age is still to come. What I'm saying is that Jesus talked about the temple being torn down and as regards the tearing down of the temple, he warned those in Judea to flee. That ends the discussion regarding the question of 'when' the temple was going to be destroyed that the disciples had asked him.
1 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings.
2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” (this is a comment that Jesus made to his disciples as they walked out of the temple heading towards the Mount of Olives)
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (This is a later time then the first comment that Jesus made to his disciples.)
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. (Now Jesus begins telling them of many things that are going to be happening up to the end of the age.)
5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.
6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.
7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— (Now Jesus has come back to answer the questions asked and he begins by telling them more specifically about the destruction of the temple that came in 70 A.D.)
16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house.
18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak.
19 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!
20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
21 For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. (Jesus is now moving to what will be the sign of his coming.)
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.
23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it.
24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.
27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. (this is the end of the age)
32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. (Here, he circles back around to the destruction of the temple and notes that it is the beginning of all of this times of trouble and great tribulation to come.)
33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.
34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
Three questions. Three answers.
But look, you've read the Scriptures through and you 've come to this one point of which you don't seem to be able to understand what Jesus meant when he said it, and on that you're basing the fact that it's good for you to not have fallen into the trap all those others who say they are christians have fallen into. You know! The blind leading the blind and all that, right?
I've offered you now a perfectly logical and completely sensible explanation. That this passage shows Jesus answering three question asked of him by his disciples. One of those answers was something that was going to happen before the generation standing before him had all passed away. That did happen. As I explained Antichus Epiphanies desecrated the temple and then destroyed it with his armies. The rest of Jesus' response was to answer the other two questions. And they do. He tells them of the signs that they should keep watch for that would bring on his return and then tells them the signs they will see of the end of the age.
It's all really very plain and simple. Although, even us believers have made this passage tougher than it needs to be. Jesus doesn't lie. He could not have lied to us. If he did he would not be the Messiah and Daniel's prophetic account would not have been fulfilled.
If you would like to know more about 'who' Jesus is, I'll be happy to help. But if you're intent is to continue living in ignorance because you believe that you have found a piece of God's word that denies the truth of God's word? Naaaah! That ain't happenin'.
God bless,
Ted
