is there a lake of fire ?

[OzSpen]

Yes, I have the scriptures. I could post the scriptures if I wanted too. I was going to post them; But..........

You wanted to be like the Bareans... So go search out the scriptures.

Everything I have written is backed by the scripture, you just will not receive it by faith and then go search it out for yourself as one of the Bereans. Instead you demand evidence, you want scriptural proof. Sorry, but that's not the way hearing by faith works. I could give you the scripture reference, but the words of the book are sealed, and you wouldn't understand it because you have not received it by faith.

See, you don't need me to post the scriptures. I bet you that a Google search would have saved the Bereans a lot of time pouring over the scriptures to find out if what they heard was true. But your not even willing the hear it because it too big a leap of faith.

If you have the Scriptures, use them to back up what you say!

 

[OzSpen]

Okay, I'll give you the scripture if you can tell me what he was requesting the scriptural support for.

Please go back to #193. It wasn't far back.

 

[OzSpen]

This is my study:
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance: Hell
Hebrew # 7585 Sheol, Hades, or the world of the dead, grave, hell, pit
Greek # 86 place of departed souls, grave, hell
Greek # 1067 Gehenna, the Valley of the sons of Hinnom South of Jerusalem, figuratively and literal of place of punishment.
Greek # 5020. Tartaroo tar-tar-o'-o from Tartaros (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment:--cast down to hell.

Gehenna - Valley of Hinnom, Old Testament as Gai Ben-Hinnom, Tophet, in the Talmud as Gehinnam

The oldest historical reference to the valley is found in Joshua 15:8, 18:16 which describe tribal boundaries. The next chronological reference to the valley is at the time of King Ahaz of Judah who sacrificed his sons there according to 2 Chron. 28:3. Isaiah does not mention Gehenna by name, but the burning place, Isaiah 30:33 in which the Assyrian army are to be destroyed, may be read Topheth, and the final verse of Isaiah which concerns the corpses of the same or a similar battle, Isaiah 66:24 , where their worm does not die. Also read Jeremiah 19:6-8 as a reference to the dead bodies that are thrown over the wall of Jerusalem into Gehenna/Tophet.

Matthew 5:29, 30; Mark 9:43-48 Jesus uses the prophetic symbolic of Gehenna as calling it hell or fires of hell meaning the grave/pit where many were burned to death there as the worm did not die there, meaning that there were always new maggots going through their life-cycles, feeding on the dead corpse. Also note Isaiah 66:24.

God said that he would that none should perish, but those who have rejected God and His word are those who will be cast into the lake of fire for eternity by their own choice, even if they do not believe in Heaven or Hell, we believe because we know that Gods word is truth and does not come back void in our lives.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 20:13 and the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Revelation 20:14 and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Revelation 20:15 and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

FHG,

Some of this material you've taken directly from the Wikipedia article on Gehenna. I urge you not to do this, without giving credit to the source. Otherwise, it's plagiarism - stealing another's ideas.

Oz

 

[for_his_glory]

FHG,

Some of this material you've taken directly from the Wikipedia article on Gehenna. I urge you not to do this, without giving credit to the source. Otherwise, it's plagiarism - stealing another's ideas.

Oz

Ty Oz,
Below is the only part that I took from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna and did search the scriptures given to confirm what was written was right. The rest is my own study and writing.
The oldest historical reference to the valley is found in Joshua 15:8, 18:16 which describe tribal boundaries. The next chronological reference to the valley is at the time of King Ahaz of Judah who sacrificed his sons there according to 2 Chron. 28:3. Isaiah does not mention Gehenna by name, but the burning place, Isaiah 30:33 in which the Assyrian army are to be destroyed, may be read Topheth, and the final verse of Isaiah which concerns the corpses of the same or a similar battle, Isaiah 66:24 , where their worm does not die.

 

[OzSpen]

Ty Oz,
Below is the only part that I took from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna and did search the scriptures given to confirm what was written was right. The rest is my own study and writing.
The oldest historical reference to the valley is found in Joshua 15:8, 18:16 which describe tribal boundaries. The next chronological reference to the valley is at the time of King Ahaz of Judah who sacrificed his sons there according to 2 Chron. 28:3. Isaiah does not mention Gehenna by name, but the burning place, Isaiah 30:33 in which the Assyrian army are to be destroyed, may be read Topheth, and the final verse of Isaiah which concerns the corpses of the same or a similar battle, Isaiah 66:24 , where their worm does not die.

Yes, but it is still plagiarism when you take another person's ideas and include them as your own. I urge you to give credit for your direct quotes.

If someone else writes better than I on a biblical topic, I use direct quotes, but give credit to the writer.

Oz

 

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