Is There a Supernatural Devil?

[Elvispelvis]

Folks I truly appreciate all the effort shown here but I would ask you all to look back at all the verses
quoted from the bible from all of you.
Every single case quoted from the New Testament using metaphors,
symbols, ambiguity, half-truths, wrested scripture, parables.

Isa 66:4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose [that] in which I delighted not.

A total disregard for the OT teachings.

Since you do not know what the OT teaches how can you quote it.
Christians think the bible is the new testament!!

In Genesis all the first principles of faith exist and it is here we learn about the serpent.

The NT is full of parables so hard to understand Yashua had to explain it in private to his Jewish disciples who knew the bible better than any modern person yet could not phathom the depths of His words.

Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

Mar 4:34 But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

You can not take a parable literally, you can not take symbolic language from Revelations and take it literally.
You can not understand personification literally.
You must understand God manifestation to grasp the names of Jesus.

Rev chapter one clearly says this is a book of signs and symbols given as a secret code only for the saints and no one else will understand it. So those who lack OT wisdom do not know what the signs and symbols stand for.

If any one is able then to follow a few simple rules let us begin in Genesis and prove the Supernatural Devil
exists in Genesis.
We can then discuss things decently and in order using logic and reason not jumping all over the NT.

Show show me where it says the devil in Genesis so we can move forward.

 

[tig]

Chris " "THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE !

For forty years I have challenged the devil openly to come forward and show yourself you ugly, horned, red,
demon, bring it on.

Nothing has ever happened ever.

I challenge satan to a battle to the death yet he does not ever appear.

I call the devil jerks and idiots who are cowards afraid of little ole me.

No answers, no attacks, because there is nothing there.
I openly challenge ghosts, goblins, demons, to a battle in which i will destroy them with the word of God.

Why should I be afraid of fairy tales, fables, old wives tales past down through the ages.

Then modern christians make up one of the most stupid non scriptural statements I have ever heard'
"THE DEVIL GREATEST TRICK IS TO MAKE YOU THINK HE IS NOT THERE "

What a load of hooey.
I walk into haunted houses and challenge demons yet I am still here.

There is no power other than God.
You say you do not want to use the bible to proof or disprove because God's word is not good enough for you.

What your asking me to do is foolish to the absurd to ignore the truth for your inner feelings.
Using this logic you are in fact listening to the devil inside you.

Those so called feelings you put so much faith in are just the inner man talking and Paul said we have an inner warfare. The scientists say the human mind is a powerful tool, which will kill you ,if you have a will to die.
It can make people live through terrible tragedy, horrible accidents, were the doctors say his will to live is so strong.

Have you ever heard of frightened to death.
Often we here they died of a broken heart.

To go by inner feelings is to listen to a fool filled with images from TV Movies, fairy tales about satan the devil
demons thousands of pictures since childhood so without God's word to set you straight you go against
Gods word to believe a lie .

Therfore you get what you deserve "FEAR OF DEVIL"
We are taught the whole duty of man is to fear God but modern churches fear satan and the devil.

The devil is a sniveling , whiny coward, afraid to show his face to me because he is not there.
God says I will send them strong delusions so they will believe a lie.

Elvis, this is funny, really. Thanks. Of course, you could try the same thing on God, and he wouldn't appear to you either (in a form that you would expect), because he has spoken to us in these last days by JC. It is finished. All things have been fulfilled, the story has been told, all there is left to do is believe it, or not. The gates to the city are wide open, the invitation is freely given for any who thirst to enter in.

Satan has appeared though, and is here, walking about as a lion seeking whom he may devour. He is an angel of God, made to minister to mankind the things God made him to minister to us, namely death, tempting us to partake of that tree. He is exactly what God made him to be, the teacher of the lesson of death. He does no more or less than what God commands him to do. No need to curse him, or hate him, or belittle him, or make him into naught, entruding into those things not understood, who even Michael, the archangel, did not disparage, but said, the Lord rebuke thee.

 

[Chris]

here is one reason why maybe the wording in this prayer


5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.’

14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

 

[Elvispelvis]

Bob Carrabbio said'

"The angels , the Mighty ones cannot sin.
They have an immortal nature not a sin nature .

Really?? prove it! Seems like 1/3 of 'em did just that.------------------------------

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Hi Bob thanks for your time and for your question but I am not sure what you are saying.?
Do you agree angels are immortal ?
A simple yes or no will do.
What do you mean 1/3 of the angels sinned?
Could you use a bible verse to help me grasp what you are talking about.

Puzzled.