Isaiah 66:23

[George Muller]

"22 I did not see a temple in the
city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its
temple. 23 The city does not need the sun or the
moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb
is its lamp. 24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth
will bring their splendor into it. 25 On no day will its gates ever be shut, for
there will be no night there." (Revelation 21: NIV)

Let me explain this...

It is the Holy City that descends from above that does not need the Sun or the Moon.

This is being spoken in future tense, therefore if a Sun and Moon are mentioned it's because there is a Sun and Moon.

Faith in Christ, expressed in love, fulfills all of the law. Faith is
the new way to keep the requirements of God.

This is simply another way to say keep the Commandments - what point was proven in this statement?




http://biblia.com/bible/kjv1900/Ro 13.8

Ro
13:8
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that
loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not
commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear
false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it
is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as
thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the
fulfilling of the law.

http://biblia.com/bible/kjv1900/Ro 13.8




What part of those Commandments did you not see?

I'm not sure if any of you know what you are trying to prove. And I don't mean to say that to be funny or insulting. I am being very serious and sober minded and prayerful right now.

What part of fulfilled in love, leaves any room for keeping the written code?

Ro 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Ro 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Ga 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

 

[George Muller]

What part of fulfilled in love, leaves any room for keeping the written code?

Ro 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Ro 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Ga 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Lets put this in context, Paul has already made it very clear that no man can keep the written code because of the flesh. That the Spirit must be the working factor that produces righteousness. So we see that God has "written His Law upon the heart" of those who are born-again.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away

So Paul has already made it very clear that we have been delivered from the Old Written code, and that we are free from the charge and guilt of sin that the law brings. So God has written His law in our heart, and that is love.
So when Paul and the other Apostles, bring love forward as the fulfillment of the law, they are not saying we are under the Old, but that we should walk in the truth of the New.

2Co 3:6 ¶ Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

No one under the law, ever fulfilled the law because the law was spiritual. We who have the Spirit, have Gods love written upon our hearts and we can fulfill the law through love.

I know these things are not easy to understand, it is a "mystery" that each believer must "know" the Holy Spirit is working through them. "KNOW YE NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLS WITHIN YOU"

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory

 

[John 8:32]

Where do you think the commandment to keep the sabbath comes from? The OLD Covenant, that keeps those under the law in bondage.

Just because the Sabbath will be kept doesn't necessitate that the entire Law would be kept.

Let me expand on this thought ...

Surely we will only serve God and not murder anyone in the Kingdom ... yes/no?

But there will be some laws that are obsolete - Jesus said we will not be marrying, hence no adultery or honor father and mother. We will all be brethren of one another.

Are you sure that the seventh commandment will be obsolete?

Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

It is possible to commit spiritual adultery isn't it? Has it ever occurred in the past?

Eze 23:1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Eze 23:2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother:
Eze 23:3 And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.
Eze 23:4 And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.
Eze 23:5 And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours,
Eze 23:6 Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses.
Eze 23:7 Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself.

The fourth Commandment will always be in force. When will there be a time that it is appropriate not to show deep respect and stand in awe of our Father?

The reason God wrote the Ten Commandments on stone is to show their permanence. Now let's think a little further about this...

1Ki 8:9 There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the LORD made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.

The two tables of stone, the Ten Commandments, were placed inside the Ark under the Mercy Seat. What did that represent?

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
Heb 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Heb 8:3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
Heb 8:4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Heb 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

The Tabernacle was an exact replica of the Throne of God in Heaven...

Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

What do you suppose is in that Ark in Heaven?

 

[Joe Domingo]

Are you sure that the seventh commandment will be obsolete?

I'm speaking within the context of Jesus telling his questioners that there will be neither male nor female or giving in marriage in the Kingdom, Matthew 22:30. Not applicable to our relationship with God but only to human marriage.

P.S. George - I believe we were delivered from the ordinances of the Law. Sacrifice a Dove, sprinkle some water, go stand outside the camp, etc etc

But the Law of God is still in effect, otherwise Jesus would have made it clear that it wasn't, when in fact we see Jesus telling people to keep the commandments if they want to enter into life, Matthew 19:17. And the interesting thing I find about that verse is that Jesus told Martha that He is Life;)

 

[George Muller]

Mt 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

We see the point of the Lords words was to show this young man that he had not kept the law, for he loved his possesions more than to follow God. He was breaking the first Commandment and also "thou shalt not covet"
Yes if any man could keep the law, they would have life by the law. But no man can.

Ro 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

 

[Joe Domingo]

We see the point of the Lords words was to show
this young man that he had not kept the law, for he loved his possesions more
than to follow God. He was breaking the first Commandment and also "thou shalt
not covet"
Yes if any man could keep the law, they would have life by the
law. But no man can.

Yes George I agree with you, point well made. But please take note of the fact that Jesus gave the man an option to enter life. But the man could not do it. So this was not an impossibility, it was the young man who could not choose the Lord over his riches.

If the Lord gives us a choice, then I believe we have the ability to choose. I don't subscribe to the Lord giving a man a choice that was really no choice at all. An exercise in futility. I don't think the Lord is that cruel.

The young man had a choice and he made the wrong one.

I mean, it doesn't get any better than that ...

There was God right there. Right in front of him. And the man could not hearken to his voice. The young man could not say yes Lord. Yes to your will Lord. Yes Lord, as you wish it. He simply could not submit to the Lord's will.

 

[George Muller]

We see the point of the Lords words was to show
this young man that he had not kept the law, for he loved his possesions more
than to follow God. He was breaking the first Commandment and also "thou shalt
not covet"
Yes if any man could keep the law, they would have life by the
law. But no man can.

Yes George I agree with you, point well made. But please take note of the fact that Jesus gave the man an option to enter life. But the man could not do it. So this was not an impossibility, it was the young man who could not choose the Lord over his riches.

If the Lord gives us a choice, then I believe we have the ability to choose. I don't subscribe to the Lord giving a man a choice that was really no choice at all. An exercise in futility. I don't think the Lord is that cruel.

The young man had a choice and he made the wrong one.

I mean, it doesn't get any better than that ...

There was God right there. Right in front of him. And the man could not hearken to his voice. The young man could not say yes Lord. Yes to your will Lord. Yes Lord, as you wish it. He simply could not submit to the Lord's will.

I think you are missing the point and the purpose of the law, just as this young man did? There is none righteous, no not one. This man thought he was keeping the law, just as many do. But they are as deceievd as he was.

Ro 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one

Ro 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Ro 7:14 ¶ For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin

Just as the Lord spoke before the pharisees and scribes that he did not come to call the righteous but the sinner, the pharisee was the biggest sinner in the room, but was blinded by hypocricy. Likewise this young man who "thought" he was keeping the law, was blind to his sinful condition. Just as many are today, who "think" they are keeping the law.
This is why the Lord said it is easier for the harlot than the hypocrite to enter the kingdom, because the harlot knows they cannot keep the law, but must trust in Gods mercy.

 

[Joe Domingo]

We see the point of the Lords words was to show
this young man that he had not kept the law, for he loved his possesions more
than to follow God. He was breaking the first Commandment and also "thou shalt
not covet"
Yes if any man could keep the law, they would have life by the
law. But no man can.

Yes George I agree with you, point well made. But please take note of the fact that Jesus gave the man an option to enter life. But the man could not do it. So this was not an impossibility, it was the young man who could not choose the Lord over his riches.

If the Lord gives us a choice, then I believe we have the ability to choose. I don't subscribe to the Lord giving a man a choice that was really no choice at all. An exercise in futility. I don't think the Lord is that cruel.

The young man had a choice and he made the wrong one.

I mean, it doesn't get any better than that ...

There was God right there. Right in front of him. And the man could not hearken to his voice. The young man could not say yes Lord. Yes to your will Lord. Yes Lord, as you wish it. He simply could not submit to the Lord's will.

I think you are missing the point and the purpose of the law, just as this young man did? There is none righteous, no not one. This man thought he was keeping the law, just as many do. But they are as deceievd as he was.

Ro 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one

Ro 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Ro 7:14 ¶ For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin

Just as the Lord spoke before the pharisees and scribes that he did not come to call the righteous but the sinner, the pharisee was the biggest sinner in the room, but was blinded by hypocricy. Likewise this young man who "thought" he was keeping the law, was blind to his sinful condition. Just as many are today, who "think" they are keeping the law.
This is why the Lord said it is easier for the harlot than the hypocrite to enter the kingdom, because the harlot knows they cannot keep the law, but must trust in Gods mercy.

Oh yes I got the point that was being made.

But would it be ok for me to just go out and break all the laws I want to tonight - can you give me permission to do that? See, we are just going around in circles IMHO.

If you really have love for me as your neighbor - you will not give me permission to break laws tonight.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't get to the Kingdom by keeping God's Laws, and yet I cannot just freely decide to break them either.

 

[George Muller]

Mt 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

We see the point of the Lords words was to show this young man that he had not kept the law, for he loved his possesions more than to follow God. He was breaking the first Commandment and also "thou shalt not covet"
Yes if any man could keep the law, they would have life by the law. But no man can.

Ro 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

This is the issue, the young man thought he was keeping the law, but he was not.

Joh 9:39 ¶ And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth

This is the judgment, of those who claim to keep the law. "they which see might be made blind"

 

[Joe Domingo]

This is the issue, the young man thought he was

keeping the law, but he was not

So true.

And why? Because when God spoke to him and commanded him to give up his riches, he could not do it. It's pretty clear for me at this point. Obey the Lord.

The young man was disobedient to the Word of God.

I think Jesus is also teaching obedience to himself as Lord and Master.

I think we both understand the subject well. In fact, I'm quite certain I understand the way you see things and hopefully you understand the way I see things.

If you somehow still think that I need to keep commandments to be saved - then we have wasted our time here.

 

[George Muller]

But would it be ok for me to just go out and break all the laws I want to tonight - can you give me permission to do that? See, we are just going around in circles IMHO

No I have been clear from the beginning;


Ro 6:1 ¶ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

I am for holiness, not the hypocricy and white-wash of those who claim they are keeping the law, through the written code. Its not possible!

That was not intended towards you, but a general statement about what the Lord came against in the pharisees and scribes.

 

[Elijah674]

God created all of his ones that have a ‘BRAIN’ with the freedom of choice.

The Brain is between the EYES in the forehead. This is what is suppose to function our WORKS + Thoughts. Kind of grammar school, so far huh? OK: Isa. 8:16 talks of a ‘sealing’. It seems that from babyhood God wants & requires that we MUST MATURE and be ‘sealed’?

[16] Bind up the testimony, [seal the law] among my disciples.

OK: Brain surely must think to have anything sealed there! Freedom to ‘choose’. And the testimony is not hard to figure if we ‘think’?? Matt. 4:4 + 2 Tim. 3:16 needs all of the Bibles ‘Inspired Testimony’ of what men wrote in their describing words. But that is not God’s LAW. Isa 8:20 has this...
[20] (NO: 1) To the law and (NO: 2) to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Can the brain understand so far? NO?? Well lets try Deut. 6 for how we are to do so! And remember the ‘mark of the beast in the last days! or satans sealing counterfeit)

Deut. 6
[4] Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
[5] And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
[6] And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: (most know where the brain is located and what the heart is to contain here?)
[7] And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
[8] And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
[9] And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

And satan say NO, NO! they are ALL FINISHED!! and most ex/protestants agree with him, mostly because of satans church on earths false sun worship thing. But satans man does teach so, but just that he could & did change the very ‘seal of Gods law’ to have his sealing put in its place.

And our BRAIN reads what?? romes documentation:

‘If Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the sunday they are following a [law of the Catholic Church].’

-Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying to the Cardinal, in a letter, February 10, 1920.

And again we see history counterfeit acknowledged by Protestants mother!

‘It was the Catholic Church which, by the authority of Jesus Christ, has transferred this rest (from the Bible Sabbath) to the siunday ... Thus the observance of sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church.’ –Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today, pg. 213

And Protestants have know this for years & years! They are ALL now recorded in Matt. 7’s Broadway & Rev. 17:1-5 again with their mother and being The ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH. (a done deal denomination & church/wise!) And what is interesting is that rome needs these ones to use USA to force sun worship of 666. And the court system & government is about set to do the ex/protestant thing. What is New God asks-> Eccl. 3:15’s FORCED CHURCH & GOVERNMENT professed worship. (but of satan) We have NO KING BUT CAESAR was the old Christ/less fold of Israel, & so it is with all of the coming ones on the horizon!

The ones left from this 66 persecution are found in Rev. 12:17’s identification of two parts that were seen in Isa. 8:20.

Rev. 12
[17] And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

--Elijah

 

[Joe Domingo]

Well I look at things this way.

I don't keep any commands to get saved. I keep them because I'm saved. And when I fall down and break them - the Lord's grace covers me while I brush off my knees and get back up.

I'm very thankful to him for that saving grace.

 

[George Muller]

And why? Because when God spoke to him and commanded him to give up his riches, he could not do it.

No he had already claimed to be keeping Gods Commandments, but he was blind to the truth. All the Lord did was test his lawkeeping to prove that he was not keeping the commandments as he thought.

 

[George Muller]

keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Well lets see what John means when he says keep the commandments of God, we know John did not teach the law of moses.

1Jo 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
23 ¶ And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Two Commandments, for nothing profits anything, but faith working by love.

 

[George Muller]

And when I fall down and break them

So are you judging others by a standard you do not keep yourself? Thats not lawkeeping, thats lawbreaking.

 

[George Muller]

Seems I am the only one who is teaching others to fulfill the law?
Ro 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[Joe Domingo]

And when I fall down and break them

So are you judging others by a standard you do not keep yourself? Thats not lawkeeping, thats lawbreaking.

I am not perfect. Now - just because I am not perfect is not an excuse for me to purposely break God's Commandments.

It's rather strange but it occurs to me ... George how do you live your Christian life? I mean, do you just break commandments at will or do you try to keep them?

 

[George Muller]

And when I fall down and break them

So are you judging others by a standard you do not keep yourself? Thats not lawkeeping, thats lawbreaking.

I am not perfect. Now - just because I am not perfect is not an excuse for me to purposely break God's Commandments.

It's rather strange but it occurs to me ... George how do you live your Christian life? I mean, do you just break commandments at will or do you try to keep them?

Well, the gospel is the good news because God imputes His perfect Righteousness to those who believe and accept His Son. I have seen no one suggest that breaking a commandment is ok, but you? Your excuse seems to be "you are not perfect". What kind of of standard is that in keeping the laws of God? We have been given a "perfect" Righteousness, God will not accept anything but this perfect standard.

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Having made this point, I live according to what I teach. I do not teach a standard to others that I do not keep myself, this would be hypocricy.
I fulfill the righteousness of the law, through the Spirit and love. I live a holy life, seperated unto the God I love above all things.

 

[Elijah674]

And when I fall down and break them

So are you judging others by a standard you do not keep yourself? Thats not lawkeeping, thats lawbreaking.

I am not perfect. Now - just because I am not perfect is not an excuse for me to purposely break God's Commandments.

It's rather strange but it occurs to me ... George how do you live your Christian life? I mean, do you just break commandments at will or do you try to keep them?

Well, the gospel is the good news because God imputes His perfect Righteousness to those who believe and accept His Son. I have seen no one suggest that breaking a commandment is ok, but you? Your excuse seems to be "you are not perfect". What kind of of standard is that in keeping the laws of God? We have been given a "perfect" Righteousness, God will not accept anything but this perfect standard.

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Having made this point, I live according to what I teach. I do not teach a standard to others that I do not keep myself, this would be hypocricy.
I fulfill the righteousness of the law, through the Spirit and love. I live a holy life, seperated unto the God I love above all things.

Yes LORD, EXCEPT for Your 7th Day Sabbath!

--Elijah