Isaiah 66:23

[George Muller]

I am not perfect. Now - just because I am not perfect is not an excuse for me to purposely break God's Commandments.

It's rather strange but it occurs to me ... George how do you live your Christian life? I mean, do you just break commandments at will or do you try to keep them?

Well, the gospel is the good news because God imputes His perfect Righteousness to those who believe and accept His Son. I have seen no one suggest that breaking a commandment is ok, but you? Your excuse seems to be "you are not perfect". What kind of of standard is that in keeping the laws of God? We have been given a "perfect" Righteousness, God will not accept anything but this perfect standard.

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Having made this point, I live according to what I teach. I do not teach a standard to others that I do not keep myself, this would be hypocricy.
I fulfill the righteousness of the law, through the Spirit and love. I live a holy life, seperated unto the God I love above all things.

Yes LORD, EXCEPT for Your 7th Day Sabbath!

--Elijah

Over and over I have posted how the Commandment is fulfilled in that we have ceased from our own works "of the law" and entered into His rest. Thus like all things in the New Testament, the commandment is fulfilled in the spirit and not by the letter or the efforts of mans flesh.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

You see its by faith and not by works of the law.

 

[John 8:32]

I am not perfect. Now - just because I am not perfect is not an excuse for me to purposely break God's Commandments.

It's rather strange but it occurs to me ... George how do you live your Christian life? I mean, do you just break commandments at will or do you try to keep them?

Well, the gospel is the good news because God imputes His perfect Righteousness to those who believe and accept His Son. I have seen no one suggest that breaking a commandment is ok, but you? Your excuse seems to be "you are not perfect". What kind of of standard is that in keeping the laws of God? We have been given a "perfect" Righteousness, God will not accept anything but this perfect standard.

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Having made this point, I live according to what I teach. I do not teach a standard to others that I do not keep myself, this would be hypocricy.
I fulfill the righteousness of the law, through the Spirit and love. I live a holy life, seperated unto the God I love above all things.

Yes LORD, EXCEPT for Your 7th Day Sabbath!

--Elijah

Over and over I have posted how the Commandment is fulfilled in that we have ceased from our own works "of the law" and entered into His rest. Thus like all things in the New Testament, the commandment is fulfilled in the spirit and not by the letter or the efforts of mans flesh.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

You see its by faith and not by works of the law.

Hmmm, instead of spiritualizing away the passage, let's try reading it with understanding...

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest (katapausis), any of you should seem to come short of it.

We will see what rest is being referred to here shortly.

Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

Who and what was the problem?

Deu 5:29 O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Them? The people, not the covenant.

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

What day? Some nebulous spiritual rest that you cannot define? No the seventh day of the week. What does it represent?

Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

Jos 5:6 For the children of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness, till all the people that were men of war, which came out of Egypt, were consumed, because they obeyed not the voice of the LORD: unto whom the LORD sware that he would not shew them the land, which the LORD sware unto their fathers that he would give us, a land that floweth with milk and honey.

They could not enter the rest of the promised land because of disobedience.

Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day (ever wonder why it was separated and not written today?), after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus (Joshua) had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

The rest of the promised land was only a type. Now is a good time to apply Col 2:17

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The physical promised land was entered by crossing the Jordan. A type of being begotten into the family of God by baptism.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Both both physically and spiritually...

The word rest here from Thayers is...

G4520
σαββατισμός
sabbatismos
Thayer Definition:
1) a keeping sabbath
2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from a derivative of G4521
Citing in TDNT: 7:34, 989

The Diaglott has this verse thusly...

Heb 4:9 Therefore remains a keeping of a sabbath for the people of the God.

Again, now is the appropriate time to apply Col 2:17. The Sabbath is a type, a shadow of the rest we WILL enter into...

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

A future event. When does this become a reality?

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

You mean right now? No...

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

When do the dead rise? At the last trump. At His COMING!

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

When do we receive that reward? Right now? No...

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

His reward is with Him and He will give it when? At His COMING. At that point we will enter into the true rest. Paul states that in the following...

Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Notice it is not past tense but future? When do we enter? AT HIS COMING! Until then, we do as verse 9 says and keep the Sabbath as a shadow, as a type of the coming rest when Christ returns and brings the Kingdom to the earth and we are resurrected to share in it. To become...

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

To administer the government of God on the earth for 1000 years...

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The Sabbath rest is a type, a shadow that we observe weekly until He comes...

Luk 19:12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
Luk 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Eh, what happened to the Isaiah 66 discussion?

 

[chessman]

Eh, what happened to the Isaiah 66 discussion?

It fell asleep

 

[John 8:32]

Well, in reality, Heb 4:9 is looking forward to the time of Isa 66:23...

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Not just those called today...

Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

But in the time of Isa 66, ALL FLESH will come before God on the saventh day, the day He set apart (sanctified) and made holy (hallowed) to worship Him. They will also keep the Feast Days...

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

God is serious about this...

Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

You mean to tell me that God will cause little children and the elderly and all the rest to go hungry and suffer from plagues for NOT keeping the Feast of Tabernacles? Well, what do you read here?

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Eh, what happened to the Isaiah 66 discussion?

It fell asleep

Yeah, it 'passed away', lol!

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Well, in reality, Heb 4:9 is looking forward to the time of Isa 66:23...

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Not just those called today...

Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

But in the time of Isa 66, ALL FLESH will come before God on the saventh day, the day He set apart (sanctified) and made holy (hallowed) to worship Him. They will also keep the Feast Days...

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

God is serious about this...

Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

You mean to tell me that God will cause little children and the elderly and all the rest to go hungry and suffer from plagues for NOT keeping the Feast of Tabernacles? Well, what do you read here?

But we know from Revelation that these prophecies are figurative, not literal.

 

[SeekHisFace]

I've seen this verse brought up a few times in a Sabbath day discussion.

I would like for this thread to focus solely on Isaiah 66:23.

“For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

It is quite evident that the scripture itself is speaking of the New Heaven and New Earth.

I am definitely looking forward to the ingenuity on the workaround of that scripture.

So, will you be keeping the Sabbath when you inherit the New Earth?

Just to be clear, I do not expect the usual suspects to cave in to this one. I just want to see how you spin around it.

I am unsure about the meaning of this, but I do know this when we go to be with Him we will be worshipping Him continually.
Now...in the mean time--since we are in the world, I don't see anything wrong with taking one whole day away from the world, computers, work, fleshly works...etc.. and give that time to devote to Him, praise Him and pray to Him for His will and pray (we are the house of prayer) for others and helping others...rest and be refreshed. ---no matter what we call it...the main thing is we are devoted to Him...love Him with all our hearts...and others on taking that one day out for that, when we are unable to do that when we are involve in our jobs, etc...
We, each individual, will be led by whatever we hear.

 

[Sinthesis]

I've seen this verse brought up a few times in a Sabbath day discussion.

I would like for this thread to focus solely on Isaiah 66:23.

“For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,†says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,†says the Lord.

It is quite evident that the scripture itself is speaking of the New Heaven and New Earth.

I am definitely looking forward to the ingenuity on the workaround of that scripture.

So, will you be keeping the Sabbath when you inherit the New Earth?

Just to be clear, I do not expect the usual suspects to cave in to this one. I just want to see how you spin around it.

I am unsure about the meaning of this, but I do know this when we go to be with Him we will be worshipping Him continually.
Now...in the mean time--since we are in the world, I don't see anything wrong with taking one whole day away from the world, computers, work, fleshly works...etc.. and give that time to devote to Him, praise Him and pray to Him for His will and pray (we are the house of prayer) for others and helping others...rest and be refreshed. ---no matter what we call it...the main thing is we are devoted to Him...love Him with all our hearts...and others on taking that one day out for that, when we are unable to do that when we are involve in our jobs, etc...
We, each individual, will be led by whatever we hear.

There is nothing wrong with taking one day to focus on devotion, but it doesn't have to be the sabbath. It could be Sunday, or even any day of the week for that matter. However, the entirety of the week we are to worship just as well, yet differently; everyday of the week, every day of the month, every day of the years of our Christian journey we are to worship God by loving God and others. We faithfully entrust the work of our eternal salvation to God's hands that our hands might be free to do His immediate earthly work through us. This work is not reserved to just one day. To keep the sabbath 'holy', only to spend the rest of the week indistinguishable from a non-Christian is worthless. So Christians even in today's world worship God without regard to sabbaths or new moons.

 

[Joe Domingo]

There are some who are blind here and some who are not.

Only time will tell in each one's life where they will end up.

I for one believe and know that the Ten Commandments are God's divine Law for mankind to live by, and I will do just that, there is not a single human being in this world that can cause me to change my mind about it. And I have no interest and trying to convince anyone else about keeping them. To each his own, as in the days of the judges.

Anyone separating and dividing the Ten Commandments only deceives themselves. Those here who abide in all ten of them know that and will not change their convictions.

I am more than glad to be guilty of this statement.

There will be no retraction.

 

[John 8:32]

Well, in reality, Heb 4:9 is looking forward to the time of Isa 66:23...

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Not just those called today...

Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

But in the time of Isa 66, ALL FLESH will come before God on the saventh day, the day He set apart (sanctified) and made holy (hallowed) to worship Him. They will also keep the Feast Days...

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

God is serious about this...

Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Zec 14:18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

You mean to tell me that God will cause little children and the elderly and all the rest to go hungry and suffer from plagues for NOT keeping the Feast of Tabernacles? Well, what do you read here?

But we know from Revelation that these prophecies are figurative, not literal.

How is it we know that these are figurative? I take much of Isaiah's writings as literal. I really believe that there is coming a day when this will happen...

Isa 2:2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
Isa 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Isa 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
Isa 35:2 It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joy and singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.
Isa 35:3 Strengthen ye the weak hands, and confirm the feeble knees.
Isa 35:4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
Isa 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
Isa 35:6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
Isa 35:7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
Isa 35:8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
Isa 35:9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:
Isa 35:10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

Eze 37:15 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
Eze 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
Eze 37:18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
Eze 37:20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
Eze 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Eze 37:26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
Eze 37:27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Eze 37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

Just to name a few.

 

[John 8:32]

I've seen this verse brought up a few times in a Sabbath day discussion.

I would like for this thread to focus solely on Isaiah 66:23.

“For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,” says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

It is quite evident that the scripture itself is speaking of the New Heaven and New Earth.

I am definitely looking forward to the ingenuity on the workaround of that scripture.

So, will you be keeping the Sabbath when you inherit the New Earth?

Just to be clear, I do not expect the usual suspects to cave in to this one. I just want to see how you spin around it.

I am unsure about the meaning of this, but I do know this when we go to be with Him we will be worshipping Him continually.
Now...in the mean time--since we are in the world, I don't see anything wrong with taking one whole day away from the world, computers, work, fleshly works...etc.. and give that time to devote to Him, praise Him and pray to Him for His will and pray (we are the house of prayer) for others and helping others...rest and be refreshed. ---no matter what we call it...the main thing is we are devoted to Him...love Him with all our hearts...and others on taking that one day out for that, when we are unable to do that when we are involve in our jobs, etc...
We, each individual, will be led by whatever we hear.

There is nothing wrong with taking one day to focus on devotion, but it doesn't have to be the sabbath. It could be Sunday, or even any day of the week for that matter. However, the entirety of the week we are to worship just as well, yet differently; everyday of the week, every day of the month, every day of the years of our Christian journey we are to worship God by loving God and others. We faithfully entrust the work of our eternal salvation to God's hands that our hands might be free to do His immediate earthly work through us. This work is not reserved to just one day. To keep the sabbath 'holy', only to spend the rest of the week indistinguishable from a non-Christian is worthless. So Christians even in today's world worship God without regard to sabbaths or new moons.

I do agree, keeping the Sabbath should be part of the overall change of a person upon repentance from sin.

 

[Joe Domingo]

I've seen this verse brought up a few times in a Sabbath day discussion.

I would like for this thread to focus solely on Isaiah 66:23.

“For as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I will make shall remain before Me,†says the Lord,
“So shall your descendants and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass
That from one New Moon to another,
And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,†says the Lord.

It is quite evident that the scripture itself is speaking of the New Heaven and New Earth.

I am definitely looking forward to the ingenuity on the workaround of that scripture.

So, will you be keeping the Sabbath when you inherit the New Earth?

Just to be clear, I do not expect the usual suspects to cave in to this one. I just want to see how you spin around it.

I am unsure about the meaning of this, but I do know this when we go to be with Him we will be worshipping Him continually.
Now...in the mean time--since we are in the world, I don't see anything wrong with taking one whole day away from the world, computers, work, fleshly works...etc.. and give that time to devote to Him, praise Him and pray to Him for His will and pray (we are the house of prayer) for others and helping others...rest and be refreshed. ---no matter what we call it...the main thing is we are devoted to Him...love Him with all our hearts...and others on taking that one day out for that, when we are unable to do that when we are involve in our jobs, etc...
We, each individual, will be led by whatever we hear.

There is nothing wrong with taking one day to focus on devotion, but it doesn't have to be the sabbath. It could be Sunday, or even any day of the week for that matter. However, the entirety of the week we are to worship just as well, yet differently; everyday of the week, every day of the month, every day of the years of our Christian journey we are to worship God by loving God and others. We faithfully entrust the work of our eternal salvation to God's hands that our hands might be free to do His immediate earthly work through us. This work is not reserved to just one day. To keep the sabbath 'holy', only to spend the rest of the week indistinguishable from a non-Christian is worthless. So Christians even in today's world worship God without regard to sabbaths or new moons.

I do agree, keeping the Sabbath should be part of the overall change of a person upon repentance from sin.

I agree the same as John. But the Sabbath is hallowed and Holy. You can't change that ...

 

[John 8:32]

There is nothing wrong with taking one day to focus on devotion, but it doesn't have to be the sabbath. It could be Sunday, or even any day of the week for that matter. However, the entirety of the week we are to worship just as well, yet differently; everyday of the week, every day of the month, every day of the years of our Christian journey we are to worship God by loving God and others. We faithfully entrust the work of our eternal salvation to God's hands that our hands might be free to do His immediate earthly work through us. This work is not reserved to just one day. To keep the sabbath 'holy', only to spend the rest of the week indistinguishable from a non-Christian is worthless. So Christians even in today's world worship God without regard to sabbaths or new moons.

I do agree, keeping the Sabbath should be part of the overall change of a person upon repentance from sin.

I agree the same as John. But the Sabbath is hallowed and Holy. You can't change that ...

100 over 100. We do not get to determine what is right or wrong (the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil), we only get to determine whether we will obey (The Tree of Life).

 

[Sinthesis]

There is nothing wrong with taking one day to focus on devotion, but it doesn't have to be the sabbath. It could be Sunday, or even any day of the week for that matter. However, the entirety of the week we are to worship just as well, yet differently; everyday of the week, every day of the month, every day of the years of our Christian journey we are to worship God by loving God and others. We faithfully entrust the work of our eternal salvation to God's hands that our hands might be free to do His immediate earthly work through us. This work is not reserved to just one day. To keep the sabbath 'holy', only to spend the rest of the week indistinguishable from a non-Christian is worthless. So Christians even in today's world worship God without regard to sabbaths or new moons.

I do agree, keeping the Sabbath should be part of the overall change of a person upon repentance from sin.

Wow! That's absolutely not what I said.:ohmy

 

[Sinthesis]

I do agree, keeping the Sabbath should be part of the overall change of a person upon repentance from sin.

I agree the same as John. But the Sabbath is hallowed and Holy. You can't change that ...

We can't, but God can and did.

Hbr 7:12 - For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.​

Don't think so? Well good luck keeping the sabbath year, not to mention the jubilee.

 

[Sinthesis]

There is nothing wrong with taking one day to focus on devotion, but it doesn't have to be the sabbath. It could be Sunday, or even any day of the week for that matter. However, the entirety of the week we are to worship just as well, yet differently; everyday of the week, every day of the month, every day of the years of our Christian journey we are to worship God by loving God and others. We faithfully entrust the work of our eternal salvation to God's hands that our hands might be free to do His immediate earthly work through us. This work is not reserved to just one day. To keep the sabbath 'holy', only to spend the rest of the week indistinguishable from a non-Christian is worthless. So Christians even in today's world worship God without regard to sabbaths or new moons.

I do agree, keeping the Sabbath should be part of the overall change of a person upon repentance from sin.

I agree the same as John. But the Sabbath is hallowed and Holy. You can't change that ...

100 over 100. We do not get to determine what is right or wrong (the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil), we only get to determine whether we will obey (The Tree of Life).

Actually it is through the gift of the Holy Spirit that we can and do correctly determine what is right or wrong in the myriads of situations with varying circumstances not covered in the Bible. This is living through the Spirit as opposed to living under the law.

Mat 18:18 - Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.​

 

[Elijah674]

I am not perfect. Now - just because I am not perfect is not an excuse for me to purposely break God's Commandments.

It's rather strange but it occurs to me ... George how do you live your Christian life? I mean, do you just break commandments at will or do you try to keep them?

Well, the gospel is the good news because God imputes His perfect Righteousness to those who believe and accept His Son. I have seen no one suggest that breaking a commandment is ok, but you? Your excuse seems to be "you are not perfect". What kind of of standard is that in keeping the laws of God? We have been given a "perfect" Righteousness, God will not accept anything but this perfect standard.

Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Php 3:9 ¶ And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Having made this point, I live according to what I teach. I do not teach a standard to others that I do not keep myself, this would be hypocricy.
I fulfill the righteousness of the law, through the Spirit and love. I live a holy life, seperated unto the God I love above all things.

Yes LORD, EXCEPT for Your 7th Day Sabbath!

--Elijah

Over and over I have posted how the Commandment is fulfilled in that we have ceased from our own works "of the law" and entered into His rest. Thus like all things in the New Testament, the commandment is fulfilled in the spirit and not by the letter or the efforts of mans flesh.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

You see its by faith and not by works of the law.

Come on guy, who are you??? (Titus 3:9-11)

Nothing that God BLESSED, SANCTIFED, A MADE HOLLY can be nullified!
And Christ?? Heb. 13
[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

--Elijah

 

[George Muller]

Come on guy, who are you???

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest,
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Just a man, who has entered into God rest (by faith) and keeping the true Sabbath of God.

 

[John 8:32]

There is nothing wrong with taking one day to focus on devotion, but it doesn't have to be the sabbath. It could be Sunday, or even any day of the week for that matter. However, the entirety of the week we are to worship just as well, yet differently; everyday of the week, every day of the month, every day of the years of our Christian journey we are to worship God by loving God and others. We faithfully entrust the work of our eternal salvation to God's hands that our hands might be free to do His immediate earthly work through us. This work is not reserved to just one day. To keep the sabbath 'holy', only to spend the rest of the week indistinguishable from a non-Christian is worthless. So Christians even in today's world worship God without regard to sabbaths or new moons.

I do agree, keeping the Sabbath should be part of the overall change of a person upon repentance from sin.

Wow! That's absolutely not what I said.:ohmy

Actually, having reread what you said, I totally disagree with what you said. It really does matter which day. I misread it originally.