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[Shilohsfoal]

Thanks Hawkman. (for picking this up).
As you probably know, I'm not very good with Revelation.

Calling evil good

Who sent the two witnesses? They were protecting themselves from being harmed. Scripture says Jesus sends his prophets to Jerusalem. Those who are given authority in Jerusalem persecute his prophets that he sends. https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-34.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-35.htm...

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In this thread where they are constantly telling me I don't post scripture. I always post scripture.
Example

Revelation 11:10 KJV: And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Then saying that scripture does not say the two witnesses torment anyone.It's incredibly irritating when they refuse scripture and say it's not scripture. And these are moderators doing this.

 

[JLB]

You are calling evil good
Like I said, they do the exact opposite of everything Jesus taught.

Matthew 5:44 - Love Your Enemies

But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

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But they do the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and you still say they are good.

Revelation 11:5 - The Two Witnesses

If anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouths and devours their enemies. In this way, anyone who wants to harm them must be killed.

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Revelation 11:6 - The Two Witnesses

These witnesses have power to shut the sky so that no rain will fall during the days of their prophecy, and power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish.

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They are the exact opposite of Jesus.

Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:3

What happens to those who fought against Jerusalem, that the Lord fights against?

And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths. Zechariah 14:12



JLB

 

[JLB]

Calling evil good

Who sent the two witnesses? They were protecting themselves from being harmed. Scripture says Jesus sends his prophets to Jerusalem. Those who are given authority in Jerusalem persecute his prophets that he sends. https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-34.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-35.htm...

christianforums.net

In this thread where they are constantly telling me I don't post scripture. I always post scripture.
Example

Revelation 11:10 KJV: And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Then saying that scripture does not say the two witnesses torment anyone.It's incredibly irritating when they refuse scripture and say it's not scripture. And these are moderators doing this.

The two witness are empowered to prophesy and call fire down on those who try to harm them.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The two witness are empowered to prophesy and call fire down on those who try to harm them.

Yes scripture say they can do this.

Revelation 13:13 - The Beast from the Earth

And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people.

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They are not the only Christians given the power to command fire to come down from heaven. I have a nefew who can do this. He says the word fire, and fire will come down from heaven upon his enemies.

 

[JLB]

Yes scripture say they can do this.

Revelation 13:13 - The Beast from the Earth

And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people.

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They are not the only Christians given the power to command fire to come down from heaven. I have a nefew who can do this. He says the word fire, and fire will come down from heaven upon his enemies.

Again you are referring to Revelation 13 and the beast,
the two witnesses are in Revelation 11.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Again you are referring to Revelation 13 and the beast,
the two witnesses are in Revelation 11.

They are one in the same.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Again you are referring to Revelation 13 and the beast,
the two witnesses are in Revelation 11.

The two horns on the second beast represents the two witnesses who control the second beast. They are the ones with power.

 

[JLB]

The two horns on the second beast represents the two witnesses who control the second beast. They are the ones with power.

No the two horns on the beast of Revelation 13 are not the two witnesses.

The two witnesses are killed by the beast.

When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 11:7

Here is what happened to the two witnesses in Revelation 11.

Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.
Revelation 11:11-12


JLB

 

[Shilohsfoal]

No the two horns on the beast of Revelation 13 are not the two witnesses.

The two witnesses are killed by the beast.

When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.
Revelation 11:7

Here is what happened to the two witnesses in Revelation 11.

Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.
Revelation 11:11-12


JLB

Both the false prophet and the beast which are in Jerusalem are cast into a lake of fire together.

 

[JLB]

Both the false prophet and the beast which are in Jerusalem are cast into a lake of fire together.

Sorry but scripture is the truth, not fantasy that comes from commentary on you tube.


JLB

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Sorry but scripture is the truth, not fantasy that comes from commentary on you tube.


JLB

You believe the abomination that causes desolation which is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces of the north is fantasy?

Those who are in Judea will flee for the mountains to hide in caves.

Revelation 6:15 - The Sixth Seal: Terror

Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the commanders, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and free man hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains.

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Those in Jerusalem are cast alive into a lake of fire.

Revelation 19:20 - Defeat of the Beast and False Prophet

But the beast was captured along with the false prophet, who on its behalf had performed signs deceiving those who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. Both the beast and the false prophet were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

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[JLB]

Those in Jerusalem are cast alive into a lake of fire.

False.

No amount of commentary from you tube can refute the truth from scripture.

The Lord fights against those who attack Jerusalem.


Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. Zechariah 14:3



JLB

 

[Shilohsfoal]

False.

No amount of commentary from you tube can refute the truth from scripture.

The Lord fights against those who attack Jerusalem.


Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle. Zechariah 14:3



JLB

Those who attack Jerusalem, TAKE Jerusalem and are in Jerusalem when the abomination that causes the desolation of Jerusalem is placed there.

Zechariah 14:2 KJV: For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be

Those who TAKE Jerusalem are in Jerusalem when they recieve this plague.

Zechariah 14:12 KJV: And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and

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And the two Christians who killed and tormented others are right there with the beast when it happens.
They are all cast into a lake of fire alive.

 

[JLB]

Those who attack Jerusalem, TAKE Jerusalem and are in Jerusalem when the abomination that causes the desolation of Jerusalem is placed there.

Zechariah 14:2 KJV: For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be

Those who TAKE Jerusalem are in Jerusalem when they recieve this plague.

Zechariah 14:12 KJV: And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and

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And the two Christians who killed and tormented others are right there with the beast when it happens.

No, not true.

The two witnesses were filled with the Spirit of God and raised from the dead, and called up to heaven.


Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. Revelation 11:11-12

 

[JLB]

When you reject those sent from God you reject God.


He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”
Luke 10:16


JLB

 

[Shilohsfoal]

No, not true.

The two witnesses were filled with the Spirit of God and raised from the dead, and called up to heaven.


Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they ascended to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them. Revelation 11:11-12

I've already agreed to this statement that the two Christians ascend into heaven in a cloud. I agree 100%

They are being transported to be in the presence of the Lamb and of the angels.

Revelation 14:10 KJV: The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence

of the Lamb.

 

[JLB]

I've already agreed to this statement that the two Christians ascend into heaven in a cloud. I agree 100%

They are being transported to be in the presence of the Lamb and of the angels.

Revelation 14:10 KJV: The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence

of the Lamb.

Why do you keep posting this you tube clip of an atom bomb?

Are you somehow saying the two witnesses are blown up by a bomb, rather than God Himself bringing them to heaven on a cloud?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

When you reject those sent from God you reject God.


He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”
Luke 10:16


JLB

Many in Jerusalem will have claimed to have done great works in Jesus name like those two Christians.

Matthew 7:22 - A Tree and its Fruit

Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'

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Matthew 7:23 - A Tree and its Fruit

Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!'

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And like those two Christians who do the exact opposite of everything Jesus says, they too will be destroyed.

Matthew 7:26 - The House on the Rock

But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand.

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Matthew 7:27 - The House on the Rock

The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell--and great was its collapse!

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[Shilohsfoal]

Why do you keep posting this you tube clip of an atom bomb?

Are you somehow saying the two witnesses are blown up by a bomb, rather than God Himself bringing them to heaven on a cloud?

No, I agree they ascend into heaven in a cloud.

A cloud that's looks very similar to that cloud.
Jerusalem is hit by a quake at the same time much like that quake.

 

[JLB]

Many in Jerusalem will have claimed to have done great works in Jesus name like those two Christians.

Matthew 7:22 - A Tree and its Fruit

Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'

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Matthew 7:23 - A Tree and its Fruit

Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!'

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And like those two Christians who do the exact opposite of everything Jesus says, they too will be destroyed.

Matthew 7:26 - The House on the Rock

But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand.

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Matthew 7:27 - The House on the Rock

The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell--and great was its collapse!

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As we see, the two witnesses are empowered by God to do the things they do.


He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.” Luke 10:16

When we reject those from the Lord, we reject the Lord.





JLB