If God at any time can simply go back despite some how not able then to find willing souls to reach the lost .no one would actually be judged .
That's where this goes.
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That's where this goes.
Edward
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Hey, I have not been made privy to that information. You best be asking God that, not me.
God has said that Few would be on the path .
It can't be that once we die ,we get a second chance .
Edward
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You have mistakenly made God subject to time. God is outside of time. He would be able to interact with people who lived thousands of years after her and bring them to her before she died.
God is Omnipresent too. This means that He is everywhere at every moment. Do you understand that?
So in fact, it could possibly be true.
Edwards that's universalism since God can at any point simply go back and save all that reject him.
Why even have the cross?
And you wonder about the resistance here to that doctrine .
Edward
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So don't believe it then! But stop calling me those names man. I like you for the most part. WHo cares if we don't se eye to eye. I don't call you names. So what's with that?
Many of the questions you ask me, you should be asking God about. I'm no Colonel in the Kingdom of God. At best I might be a Corproal, lol and that might be stretching it, Lol!
Because it's a heresy .
Do you really think I would be allowed to teach this in my. Church .
They would send elders and or the pastor to correct me.they would if I don't change not allow me to have communion.
Think of where that goes on doctrine .ya got it backwards .it's Bible first over visions.testimony
If they line up great but that idea of translated time travel to being around before birth as a spirit is too much .
It's that simple .my church leans towards cessationist.my pastor has attended ,fluent in Spanish,the pentacostal Spanish church .they celebrated our 25 th anniversary.we shared testimony of the founding pastor to the second one and the current one . Their pastor a lady( my church is complimentarian ) spoke as well . My elders and theirs even said we are connected at the hip
Imagine that .so my angle can't be considered anti pentacostal .I just don't try to force church elders into my views .if it's that needed I would find another church .I'm not led to
Imagine that .so my angle can't be considered anti pentacostal .I just don't try to force church elders into my views .if it's that needed I would find another church .I'm not led to
Edward
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SO who's asking you to take this information to your church? I didn't.
Let it go Brother. We don't agree on all things but that's ok. DOn't denounce your faith. Just understand that we all see through a glass darkly so what does it really matter? It's not even a Salvific issue!
Oh but it is.
Do you really think that others won't ask questions ?
That his teachings wouldn't show up in my county.
My pastor visits and works with many .
Proper doctrine .
I guess when in Bible study when joel 2 comes up just hide and skip it .of course no one church sees it eye to eye. There is a few new apostlic revival types here .that have apostles .
We have the seven mountain heresy of Hillsong and that cult here too .
We have churches that simply won't take a stand on sin and sugar cost things .I mentioned it about a church that two members left and they agreed.i saw that demonation going soft long before they or I came to my church .I attended that one and felt it very open and a bit too soft.
You don't have to brow beat the contraversy of the days but to avoid gay marriage ,abortion and other things the Bible calls sin is wrong .
You don't have to brow beat the contraversy of the days but to avoid gay marriage ,abortion and other things the Bible calls sin is wrong .
Edward
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I read Joel 2 to see what you were talking about. You shouldn't get mad at me for not having all the answers. When we get to heaven you can ask God why He wrote it into His book that way. Because I dunno, Jason.
I'm a peon like you trying to wade through this cesspool of life on earth and figure out the truth. Oh but isn't God good?! He gave us the Holy Spirit to help us! You might not believe much in Him but He is real Brother.
I do have answers for some of you guys unanswered questions. That I wont answer at this point! It would just irritate you and be ammo for you. and let's leave it be at this point cuz, it was a bad idea for a thread. We need a new thread! Something super Biblical, Lol.
I wont say certain answers. You guys have taught me...Them's Lynching words! So I'll pass on that.
Edward
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I don't thnk you guys understand the concept of OmniPresent. It's not just being everywhere at once. There;s more to it. He is outside of the Time realm of the natural universe. He can see the end from the beginning.
Think of a ballon. Imagine s dot from a Sharpie on the exact opposite of the blowhole. God creates the universe and Time all at the same time. The Balloon has been expanding ever since creation. Scientific fact Tima and space is relative. They now know that the universe is expanding at the same exact rate as time.
So in our Time Balloon Universe, God is outside of it and not subject it's laws. So He can see both ends of the Balloon at once. He can see the end from the beginning.
So not only is God everywhere at once, He is everywhere at every moment at once. Right not now this moment, He is walking and talking in the Garden with Adam & Eve.
He is with us in this forum as we talk at this moment.
Perhaps He is with Jason in Jasons future at this very moment saying well done good and faithful servant.
This is basic stuff guys. This shouldn't get me Lynched.
I'm doubtful if you really understand Omnipresent.
Think of a ballon. Imagine s dot from a Sharpie on the exact opposite of the blowhole. God creates the universe and Time all at the same time. The Balloon has been expanding ever since creation. Scientific fact Tima and space is relative. They now know that the universe is expanding at the same exact rate as time.
So in our Time Balloon Universe, God is outside of it and not subject it's laws. So He can see both ends of the Balloon at once. He can see the end from the beginning.
So not only is God everywhere at once, He is everywhere at every moment at once. Right not now this moment, He is walking and talking in the Garden with Adam & Eve.
He is with us in this forum as we talk at this moment.
Perhaps He is with Jason in Jasons future at this very moment saying well done good and faithful servant.
This is basic stuff guys. This shouldn't get me Lynched.
I'm doubtful if you really understand Omnipresent.
I'm not anti vision just check them and don't buy them because they use scriptures .
I do but again God controls time .he decides the fate of us .he appoints the day of death .
If your life isn't long enough to repent at death.
Well Romans one ,no man is Without an excuse
Edward
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Ephesians 1:10
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:.../
Have you ever heard the Dispensation of Times taught on? This in Ephesians sounds like their talking about the final Dispensation of time. The fullness of the dispensation of times. In other words, when it is complete.
Given that God is outside these time realms, I don't see why He couldn't take someone back in Time. After all, He IS God. I think you reject acceting that it is even possible because your church hasn't taught on it?
I said he Can but he doesn't .
Why?
And he can't find men and women then ?
It's for I have kept a thousand men from worshipping baal.not they kept themselves.
I raised up isreal ,I made isreal a nation .
If God can't know us and overcome our will fo deny him what God is he?
No one seems God first ,he leads it.
Without getting into a debate of freewill etc .that's just obvious .
We may plan but God ordained the steps.
Edward
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Maybe He couldn't find any men then? Those were hard times during the black plague and everone had their own problems and their own families to look after. And then God thought, Bruce is my solution? Then I will be able to gather four more souls to myself! It's all about an increased harvest.
And you are right Brother, God did ordain the steps, and Bruce Allen said so. He said he asked God how could that be real what happened? And God said, I wrote it into my book like that.
And since God is not willing that any should perish, who can tell God that He can't time travel some guy to minister to a dying lady? I can't doubt God's ability to do this.
Edward
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What did you mean by all this other stuff? I don't understand your meaning here.
That the premise of Time Travel Ministry is satanic somehow?!