Kids Reveal Memories Of Picking Their Parents...

[jasonc]

Surely you jest. I haven't had any visions yet. I have had a lot of spiritual dreams. Maybe this sort of thing is not in the Bible. (Maybe we just habent found it yet?).

Either way, it is written in Jasons Bible, it's on page
Daniel 12:4
4 But you, Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret; seal up the book until the time of the end, when many will rush here and there, and knowledge will increase.”....NLT

Does your Bible say this, Jason? Oh maybe you have a KJV?

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.../KJV


So what do we do with this verse here? How can God increase knowledge to us, if everything is already in the Bible? Does this verse lie? SHould I disregard this?

What does it mean? If dreams and visions and revelation from the Holy Spirit are demonic as you guys say, then...how will God be able to increase mans knowledge in the end times at all? How would He do it?

Apparently He can't do it through new revelation of old scriptures because you said that spiritul stuff is demonic. SO He can't use the Holy Spirit.

Would you recognize the truth if it hit you in the face? I can explain some things to people but I can't make you comprehend what I say. I'm not even asking you to agree with me.

Sorry Brother, but Edward thinks...What if that were true and we just didnt get it before? It actually sounds halfway plausible.

If I make a mistake, (entirely possible!!) why do not my Brothers & Sisters say to me, Hey Brother that's wrong and this is why...and point to the scripture.

If it's true then the mistake would crumble upon metting that truth. That's how truth works. Not one of my Brothers and Sisters here have been gracious enough to Edify poor misguided Edward. Instead I get: Mormon!! Pentecostal! Heritic!!

I accuse all you you guys of Knee-Jerking to this subject and I'm disappointed in all of you.

But God Bless you anyway!

Uhm no.

Because I have seen heresies .

Seriously in one post you suggest s pastor time traveled to the bubonic plaque .

Surely the apostles would know of this and mentioned it

Increase of knowledge doesn't mean like new age .and pentacostas wonder why because of the seven mountain and laughing in the Holy ghost movements are laughed at .



The apostles raised the dead,healed and so forth .they physically save Paul mey Jesus In person .several wrote books of the Bible.

Yet God must reveal more to us then them ?

You are literally doing what I said .seeking signs and wonders over what the Bible says.

Just add slain in the spirit ,taken up to and it's a ok.

I have seen my wife use drugs from country ,in dreams,voices ,the day ,the person ,the very room with .as if I was in the clouds.

All verified by her daughter and confession.

Testing is more then just reading a book verifying .if ravi Zacharias can decieve men ,surely men who have the charismatic pastoral style can lead astray.

Aka anointing and typical showbiz often found in pentacostals mega churches .

I personally know several honest prophets and one of them I have attend the PTSD group with .I don't agree with them on things but they are open enough to be tested in character .

I wouldn't send my pastor to one who is well known and of good character as he is why they share my church.

The founding pastor of my current church attended my old church and preacher he was raised in old snake handling churches and was burned out of it.he preached with fire .until three years ago I didn't know this.

He isn't pentacostal but isn't one to call them a devil.and is like my pastor a team builder .let's work together to reach the lost

 

[Edward]

It’s a lot more exciting, isn’t it? I mean anything those kids “remember” becomes…..gospel. And kids sometimes are not restrained in their imagination by real science. I remember hearing about kids of molestation they “experienced” that was not physically possible (and actually never had occurred at all.)

Excuse me but is my sandwich coming soon?

Just calm down Dorothy. Nevertheless, considr this..."IF" God gave a message to a young one to go and speak, to it's mother or whoever, and it was real...why wouldn't it become "gospel?"

I have never said that kids can't lie. I did not post every child in the world's testimony! I don't speak for those kids. There is what 4 testimonies in that vid? I don't even believe all of them. I had hoped that someone would see the same irrgularity with the one I did and point it out and we could have had a good discussion! But it didn't go that way.

You're a very stubborn girl Dorothy. You don't have to agree with me on even the possibility of truth in what kids say. But you're doing your own God and those kids a disservice by not even considering that...God really does work in mysterious ways, and He prophecied to use the foolish to confound the wise. and you might not know everything yet!

I think I do not know everything yet. With all due respect Sister, you put on the wrong outfit today. Please change your clothes. That doesn't look good on you.

 

[Edward]

Seriously in one post you suggest s pastor time traveled to the bubonic plaque .

I do believe that one for some reason. That guy has a lot more than that too.

 

[Edward]

Wow! I stirred the Townfolk into being a Lynch Mob with this thread. Geeez.

aybe I should go up and shout this stuff from my rooftops?! I wonder if my neighbors would try to Lynch me? Call me a coward but, I'm staying in the house today.

I had the most fantastic week. Today seems like monday morning in the rain going to work back to the normal grind eh, lol.

Cheer up, the Lord is good and He is TRUE. God does say in scripture that He will use children. So you Brothers and Sisters, I implore you...please don't lynch them when they come!

I'm prolly about done here I think. Whoa bad idea to bring to thr table. Made everyone mad! WOw! Sorry, Lol

 

[jasonc]

I do believe that one for some reason. That guy has a lot more than that too.

So when we die it's not really final on the end.

Before he allegedly went back in time ,they were dead.

 

[Edward]

So when we die it's not really final on the end.

Before he allegedly went back in time ,they were dead.

I know, it is Twilight Zone is it not?! I wholeheartedly agree with you about that. Yes.

So the Question now becomes...can your Lord God. The God of Abraham, the great I AM....is it possible that this Almighty God is able to do something which is so far above your comprehension that you would always say it is wrong? Impossible, even for God?

Our carnal brain tells us no because humans die we consider a very long life 120 years. Of course all those those people were dead! BUT!! God lives outside of time.

Proverbs 25:2
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.../

Digest that Brother. He has a very good sense of humor also! Is it too hard for God to do what was described. The people presumably, were already dead. 9Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

Nicodemus don't get it. Jason don't get it. Edward don't get it. Lol.

Conclusion? Man this is just weird enough to be true. This sorta sounds like something that God might do, doesn't it?

Maybe. More praying is needed.

 

[Free]

Aren't you the member who once told me that seeking the Lord in spirit is dangerous because astral projection is demonic and I could easily bite off more than I can chew? Something like that.

Here is what you originally said: "I've been warned off of trying to find this place by well intentioned Christian Brothers before, as if it was a new age astral projection thing and I might accidentally conjure up a demon and bite off more than I can chew."

https://christianforums.net/threads/was-the-law-fulfilled-or-abolished.82641/page-13#post-1568776

It looks like you're the one that first mentioned astral projection in relation to whatever the issue was. So, it certainly wasn't me.

WHy? I could tell you.

I meant that I could not understand what you wrote. It makes no sense.

What's with all of the knee jerk hostile reactions from you people? Can you hear how you sound?

If only you could hear how you sound. Truth matters, especially when it comes to Christian belief.

Ok so this is a farout topic. Since when are Christian topics not farout?! Why did my posting this here cause such a big bad reaction? That's very interesting to me.

They don't want us talking about this. and you people beating on me...Christians? So the Spirit led you to say those things to me? I think not. (would that make you a bad baptist, LOL!!?)

This is weird how Christian Brothers and Sisters want to do battle with me.

This is not the first time you have promoted belief in human existence prior to conception. We are to correct believers when they are in error. That is why the reactions. To let a believer continue in error without addressing it and attempting correction, is one of the most unloving things a Christian can do.

Look. If you don't believe it, so what. If you do believe it, so what? It changes nothing about yours or mine salvation. So why get snotty about it? That lacks class man.

So, what the Bible says and doesn't say doesn't matter? Errors like this on one point means there are errors in other areas. This is exactly the type of belief that can eventually lead to a loss of salvation. This isn't a small matter.

 

[jasonc]

I know, it is Twilight Zone is it not?! I wholeheartedly agree with you about that. Yes.

So the Question now becomes...can your Lord God. The God of Abraham, the great I AM....is it possible that this Almighty God is able to do something which is so far above your comprehension that you would always say it is wrong? Impossible, even for God?

Our carnal brain tells us no because humans die we consider a very long life 120 years. Of course all those those people were dead! BUT!! God lives outside of time.

Proverbs 25:2
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.../

Digest that Brother. He has a very good sense of humor also! Is it too hard for God to do what was described. The people presumably, were already dead. 9Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

Nicodemus don't get it. Jason don't get it. Edward don't get it. Lol.

Conclusion? Man this is just weird enough to be true. This sorta sounds like something that God might do, doesn't it?

Maybe. More praying is needed.

No. Because he could ,but he doesn't

 

[jasonc]

Edward that's going into universalism

 

[Edward]

Here is what you originally said: "I've been warned off of trying to find this place by well intentioned Christian Brothers before, as if it was a new age astral projection thing and I might accidentally conjure up a demon and bite off more than I can chew."

So are you trying to say that you are not a well intentioned Christian Brother? I spoke in a roundabout way there because I wasn't looking for a fight!

Is there a problem with that? What was my mistake?

This is not the first time you have promoted belief in human existence prior to conception. We are to correct believers when they are in error. That is why the reactions. To let a believer continue in error without addressing it and attempting correction, is one of the most unloving things a Christian can do.

Ok let's start here then supposing this is true. So if you would be so kind to point out the post numbers of the Brothers and Sisters trying to correct this poor misguided guy? I can't find them. I get scoffed at. Riduculed. Called names. Wherein is the edification there? My Brothers & Sisters are letting me down in this according to what you say.

So go agead Free. If you are a well intentioned Brother in Christ, then you can speak in something above ridicule can't you?

I don't 100% beieve this stuff. But I am hesitant to reject the Prophets of God (so to speak). God frowns on that. I admit it is pretty much beyond comprehension, but many other things that our God has done have also been.

If you are able to change my mind and show me the real truth, then do so. Because you haven't yet. I suspect you can not, so that is why you knee-jerk reject and scoff.

(I knew that was you.)
So do good Brothers & Sisters have any edification for Edward? Can we step up, out of childiish Uh-UHH!! Consider this:

If you are right and I am wrong, you fail me as a Brother in Christ that needs help.

If you are somehow wrong, you fail to see that God's ways are higher than your ways and to be able to receive His newly revealed truths.

 

[Edward]

Edward that's going into universalism

I guess not. Here you go again.

Look man, I wont study a satanist bible to be able to debate with satanists and I have no idea what in the heck is universalism is, but your tone is using it in a negative way

I think I'm done trying to talk to you people about this.

So we disagree about the possibilities of what all God 'Could do'. So what?! No help here, thanks guys! Good show!

 

[Edward]

This is not the first time you have promoted belief in human existence prior to conception. We are to correct believers when they are in error. That is why the reactions. To let a believer continue in error without addressing it and attempting correction, is one of the most unloving things a Christian can do.

Maybe you can explain to us what I knew you before you were in your mothers womb...means?

Cuz this universalistic agnostoic heretic sorta new age weirdo just don't get it. Obviously, right? So tell me what it means.

 

[Free]

So are you trying to say that you are not a well intentioned Christian Brother? I spoke in a roundabout way there because I wasn't looking for a fight!

Is there a problem with that? What was my mistake?

What? No, I am clearly saying that you made a connection to astral projection that you're now trying to pin on me or others. I am saying that you are just plain wrong in your assertion. Good thing this isn't rocket science.

Ok let's start here then supposing this is true. So if you would be so kind to point out the post numbers of the Brothers and Sisters trying to correct this poor misguided guy? I can't find them. I get scoffed at. Riduculed. Called names. Wherein is the edification there? My Brothers & Sisters are letting me down in this according to what you say.

So go agead Free. If you are a well intentioned Brother in Christ, then you can speak in something above ridicule can't you?

You are the very last person in these forums that should be calling out others for scoffing, name calling, or ridicule.

I don't 100% beieve this stuff. But I am hesitant to reject the Prophets of God (so to speak). God frowns on that. I admit it is pretty much beyond comprehension, but many other things that our God has done have also been.

The whole point is that there is absolutely nothing in the Bible about this stuff, so what in the world do you even mean about being "hesitant to reject the Prophets of God"?

If you are able to change my mind and show me the real truth, then do so. Because you haven't yet. I suspect you can not, so that is why you knee-jerk reject and scoff.

Change your mind about what? That we exist prior to being conceived? How can I when the Bible doesn't mention anything about it?

(I knew that was you.)

What?

If you are right and I am wrong, you fail me as a Brother in Christ that needs help.

Why don't you first help yourself by looking to Scripture and seeing if any of these beliefs are there?

If you are somehow wrong, you fail to see that God's ways are higher than your ways and to be able to receive His newly revealed truths.

Please, don't misuse Scripture like that.

 

[Free]

Maybe you can explain to us what I knew you before you were in your mothers womb...means?

Cuz this universalistic agnostoic heretic sorta new age weirdo just don't get it. Obviously, right? So tell me what it means.

What verse is that?

 

[jasonc]

I guess not. Here you go again.

Look man, I wont study a satanist bible to be able to debate with satanists and I have no idea what in the heck is universalism is, but your tone is using it in a negative way

I think I'm done trying to talk to you people about this.

So we disagree about the possibilities of what all God 'Could do'. So what?! No help here, thanks guys! Good show!

Uhm so I pray for Judas Iscariot to be saved.thst pastor mentions a vision ,viola Judas is in heaven .


Death in however long or short our lives are is final .

 

[Free]

Found it:

Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” (ESV)

This is speaking of God's foreknowledge of Jeremiah and his predestination of him as a prophet, not his actual knowing him as if he existed prior to his birth.

Consider Rom 8:29, ”For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers."

It is very dangerous to make a belief or doctrine out of a single verse.

 

[Edward]

Uhm so I pray for Judas Iscariot to be saved.thst pastor mentions a vision ,viola Judas is in heaven .


Death in however long or short our lives are is final .

So please realize that you have revealed your ignorance of the scriptures. Let me clue you in Brother. The war has been fought and the Lord God has conquered Death. Life and Death reside in God's hands. Most of the entire scriptures talk about this. It's like the theme of the Bible. Death is not final to God.
Or should we change the lyrics to the song?

He's got the whole world in His Hands.
He's got most of the world in His hands.
He couldn't really take Bruce back in time, but that's ok.
because we Love Him any way... da da da..

 

[Edward]

Found it:

Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” (ESV)

This is speaking of God's foreknowledge of Jeremiah and his predestination of him as a prophet, not his actual knowing him as if he existed prior to his birth.

Consider Rom 8:29, ”For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers."

It is very dangerous to make a belief or doctrine out of a single verse.

Hey that's pretty impressive from you to me. I disagree with you because of so many other scriptures, but I appreciate the effort.

Seems like you are just not seeing it all nor talking all into account. And you do not seem well disposed to discussing things without strife in some form so we best let it go.

 

[Free]

I disagree with you because of so many other scriptures, but I appreciate the effort.

Seems like you are just not seeing it all nor talking all into account.

What other Scriptures? Please provide your evidence for your claim.

And you do not seem well disposed to discussing things without strife in some form so we best let it go.

I am very well disposed to discussing things without strife. It's when other people start playing silly games that the issues begin.

 

[jasonc]

So please realize that you have revealed your ignorance of the scriptures. Let me clue you in Brother. The war has been fought and the Lord God has conquered Death. Life and Death reside in God's hands. Most of the entire scriptures talk about this. It's like the theme of the Bible. Death is not final to God.
Or should we change the lyrics to the song?

He's got the whole world in His Hands.
He's got most of the world in His hands.
He couldn't really take Bruce back in time, but that's ok.
because we Love Him any way... da da da..

I guess Peter will be wrong when the ninth person who lived during the flood is in heaven