Drew said:
veteran said:
Drew said:
We have been over this many times. The "sad state" of the world is not any kind of argument against the present kingship of Jesus.
You're terribly wrong on that one too! The state of the world is VERY MUCH about Christ's literal reign upon this earth.
I am not wrong.
The fact that
you cannot accept Paul's clear statement that Jesus' reign is in place even while sin and death are in the world is not my problem.
Remember what Paul
actually said:
For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet.
This is a clear stateiment that Jesus' reign will be in fact established
before all the enemies are finally dealt with.
veteran said:
So it's important that we never forget the following...
Rom 14:11-12
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
(KJV)
The wicked on earth have yet to bow their knee to God/
Not a valid argument. The fact that all people have yet to bow to the reigning King does not mean that He is not King right now.
Oh, but yes, the wicked that have power in the world today is VERY MUCH a valid point concerning Christ's future de facto in Person reign. It's even a greater point after Christ's "thousand years" reign of Rev.20, when ALL the wicked will PERISH in the "lake of fire" along with Satan and the abode of hell!
There shall never be another rebellion against God a second time...
Nahum 1:9-10
9 What do ye imagine against the LORD? He will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time.
10 For while they be folden together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry.
(KJV)
I don't care if you believe me or not about the wicked will one day PERISH off this earth. But you might consider believing our Heavenly Father Who declared it...
Ps 37:10-20
10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
12 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13 The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
14 The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
15 Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.
18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
(KJV)
Will you argue against our LORD there also, in favour of your love of this world today with all the wicked still in it? What will you do and say when Christ returns and separates His servants apart from the wicked "goats"? Will you say to Him that He's not supposed to destroy the wicked off this earth, that He nowhere declared that?