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Begin with John 17:1-3 where the Father is explicitly identified as the Only True God. That doesn't change regardless of how you may interpret what Jesus said about himself regarding the world existed. For the record, I am comfortable with every part of the New Testament. I regularly use your very own favorite verses for preaching that Jesus isn't God.
One God and Father. God is the Father. Remember John 17:1-3 how the Father is the only true God? You're getting close. Keep going.
I quoted something you said from page 14. I assume the personal pronouns you're referring to are those of "Elohim?" I explained that it isn't about numbers.
It doesn’t get any more simple than a son is younger than his father.
And only one access to him, which is Jesus Christ.
That's you admitting that the Father is not the Holy Spirit. Jesus mentions the Holy Spirit in Matthew 12:31-32, and, as you admit, Jesus does not mention the Father in Matthew 12:31-32. So, you're on record, there, contradicting your own, heretical falsehood, here:
You already admitted that the phrase, "the Holy Spirit", is not a name of the Father, by your admission of the fact that the Father is not mentioned in a passage wherein occurs the phrase, "the Holy Spirit":
Then you’ll agree that simple, common sense also tells us that a son is always the same nature as his father, correct?
Where did you explain that?
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For sure you are either imagining something I never said or confusing me with someone else.
Never. I believe the Father is the Holy Spirit.
Incredible. Where did I suddenly abandon what I said? Please show the comment. This should be good.
Seems you have created a story to excuse yourself from this conversation. If you want to withdraw, there are better ways to go about that.You've made it very clear that you're not amenable to being reasoned with, that you refuse to think rationally about and deal honestly with what you write, and that you refuse to think rationally about and deal honestly with what others write. So, I guess you're going to have to be content with what you wrote to me in your last post, lashing out at me in your chagrin; because, now, by your own choice of your conduct, you've used up your audience with me. Enjoy having "the last word" now, now that you're on Ignore.
Agreed. And the Father draws them first in John 6:44.
And, as I stated, you’re fallaciously begging the question by beginning with the premise that God is unitarian regarding Gen 1:26. Your post explains Elohim, not “us” and “our.”
I am beginning with the fact that "elohim" doesn't necessitate there be a plurality of persons in a godhead.
God and His mighty ones are one.
We can be one and yet I don't become you and you don't become me. We can also be one with God and don't become God. Don't be surprised if Trinitarians reject the idea of being one with God because it's an opening to disprove the deity of Jesus, but nevertheless it's true.
Feels weird saying "conceive" because it strongly implies intercourse, but that's the word the translators normally use in Matthew 1:18-20. So let's say for sure Mary got pregnant, but how is more likely through a miracle rather than actual traditional fertilization of the female egg.
A reply from you will be appreciated.
A woman conceives, but cannot without the male counterpart. The act of conception occurs in this union, but the conceiving progresses without need of the male.
How did I not reply? You just responded to my reply. My reply was that it probably happened through a miracle.
So the Nicene creed doesn't say Jesus was conceived but rather was incarnated in Mary then became a man.
I love the Nicene creed. It doesn't support Trinitarianism.
No comment.
Oh. It sounded like you gave me 2 choices.
This is why it shouldn't say CHRISTIAN...YES under your avatar.