Mary, the mother of the Lord

[KV-44-v1]

If you believe the bible why not matt 16;18-19?

I do. Obviously these talk about Born Again Christians. You have nothing to back that the RCC is being talked about.
Eastern Orthodox can think these apply to THEIR church. Now who is right and wrong and why?

The gates of hades sure overcame the RCC. You can tell because of all the pagan influences.
Snake in the vatican, at some point in time, the pope was being carried like the Ark of the Covenant (mockery of God), the pope promoting Lgtb+ agenda, rampant s*ual abuse, people's many testimonies of RCC hindering relationship with God, and more.

Born Again Christian Church will not be overcome. RCC already has been.

 

[donadams]

One thing we know for sure, that Mary had a moment where she like everyone else who is born again had to accept the sacrifice of her Lord Jesus as redemption for her sins.
Being the chosen vessel to bear Him afforded her nothing more than me and you in have been afforded in that regard .
Jesus made the point clearly that she was no different than any other sinner in need of salvation:

Matthew 12:48
Who is my mother?

He is glorifying His mother!
Lk 1:45 Mary was faithful

Two ways of being savior, forgive sins: and to preserve us from sin:

Mary was preserved by God from sin!

Song of Solomon 4:7 Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee.

Song of Solomon 6: 9 My dove, my undefiled is but one; she is the only one of her mother, she is the choice one of her that bare her. The daughters saw her, and blessed her; yea, the queens and the concubines, and they praised her.

10 Who is she that looketh forth as the morning, fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners?

Christ not only saves us from our past sins by forgiveness but he also preserves us from future sin by his grace, in both cases he is savior, and Mary was preserved from original sin and from all sin to the glory of God and the praise of Jesus Christ! Lk 1:49

Thks

 

[donadams]

He is *our* Salvation - He saves us.
But IS He the GIFT of salvation??

So you are saying Faith and Grace? I'm pretty sure 'faith alone' also includes Grace.

Faith+Grace

What is an example of a sacrament?

Baptism mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved

 

[KV-44-v1]

He is glorifying His mother!
Lk 1:45 Mary was faithful

GLORIFY - "To give glory, honor, or high praise to; exalt"
That is NOT blessing. Douay must've got you again.

blessing:

 

[donadams]

GLORIFY - "To give glory, honor, or high praise to; exalt"
That is NOT blessing. Douay must've got you again.

blessing:

I use the KJV FYI

 

[MisterE]

The only true God is YHWH

Jesus is called YHWH in the NT. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is KURIOS/YHWH

 

[Consecrated Life]

Baptism mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved

Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

 

[donadams]

Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

And obey his commands matt 28:19

 

[KV-44-v1]

If you believe the bible why not matt 16;18-19?

I do. Obviously these talk about Born Again Christians. You have nothing to back that the RCC is being talked about.
Eastern Orthodox can think these apply to THEIR church. Now who is right and wrong and why?

The gates of hades sure overcame the RCC. You can tell because of all the pagan influences.
Snake in the vatican, at some point in time, the pope was being carried like the Ark of the Covenant (mockery of God), the pope promoting Lgtb+ agenda, rampant s*ual abuse, people's many testimonies of RCC hindering relationship with God, and more.

Born Again Christian Church will not be overcome. RCC already has been.

 

[donadams]

I do. Obviously these talk about Born Again Christians. You have nothing to back that the RCC is being talked about.
Eastern Orthodox can think these apply to THEIR church. Now who is right and wrong and why?

The gates of hades sure overcame the RCC. You can tell because of all the pagan influences.
Snake in the vatican, at some point in time, the pope was being carried like the Ark of the Covenant (mockery of God), the pope promoting Lgtb+ agenda, rampant s*ual abuse, people's many testimonies of RCC hindering relationship with God, and more.

Born Again Christian Church will not be overcome. RCC already has been.

Your confusing the church with the counterfeit church
Matt 24 deceive even the elect

Thks

 

[KV-44-v1]

counterfeit church

Called the RCC!

 

[Rodger]

Mother of God!

Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Mary is not the mother of the divinity, or the mother of the eternal father, or the mother of the Holy Spirit, nor the source of the divine nature.

Mary is the mother of God, cos Jesus Christ is God and Mary is His mother, not the mother of His body but the mother of His entire person.


"She is rightly called not only the mother of the man, but also the Mother of God ... It is certain that Mary is the Mother of the real and true God." Martin Luther

"Elizabeth called Mary Mother of the Lord, because the unity of the person in the two natures of Christ was such that she could have said that the mortal man engendered in the womb of Mary was at the same time the eternal God." John Calvin


Mother of God!

Jesus is a divine person who became man, and not a human person, that is why Mary is truly the “mother of God” Jesus is God, Mary is His mother, so she is the mother of God not to be confused with “source”, she is not the source of God or the mother of the divine nature, or the mother of the eternal Father, nor the mother of the spirit!

But mother of the Son who is God.

Only one person every has a family relationship with God, Mary; and she has three!

Daughter of the Father
Mother of the Son
Spouse of the Holy Spirit

And Jesus being our spiritual brother Mary is our spiritual mother!

God has no mother:
God is uncreated and eternal!

God the son does have a mother!
Mary is the mother of God!

It does not mean that Mary is the mother or source of the divine nature of God, or the mother of the father or the mother of the spirit.

it is a relationship between mother and child, Mary and Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is God;
Mary is His mother;
Mary is the mother of God to deny this is to deny the divinity of Christ and scripture. Lk 1:43

Cannot have Jesus as your spiritual brother unless Mary is your spiritual Mother!

Anyone who has no mother is an orphan.

Jesus said to His disciples; “I will not leave you orphaned” and “behold Thy mother”!
Jn 19:26 spiritual mother
Rev 12:19 spiritual mother

It is Mary who gave birth to the mystical Body of Christ!

We must obey the 4th commandment, “honor Thy father and mother”!

We must obey scripture and call Her “blessed”! Lk 1:48

Our salvation is in Mary!

Mother of our salvation!

The Lord is with Her!

All of that is nothing more than the Catholic dogma that you have been fed. I appreciate your desire but your bias is off the chart.

Here, in Luke 1:43, this unborn Child in Mary's womb is referred to as Elizabeth's "Lord."

Although your bias will not allow you to understand this, but the literal Greek term kyrios here is used to refer to a master or be used in place of the English word "sir."

In context, Elizabeth is celebrating Jesus as her Messiah and Savior (Luke 2:11; John 20:28). She realizes that the Messiah her own son, John, will proclaim, is growing inside of Mary's body at that very moment.

 

[Rodger]

One thing we know for sure, that Mary had a moment where she like everyone else who is born again had to accept the sacrifice of her Lord Jesus as redemption for her sins.
Being the chosen vessel to bear Him afforded her nothing more than me and you in have been afforded in that regard .
Jesus made the point clearly that she was no different than any other sinner in need of salvation:

Matthew 12:48
Who is my mother?

Agreed.

 

[KV-44-v1]

All of that is nothing more than the Catholic dogma that you have been fed. I appreciate your desire but your bias is off the chart.

Here, in Luke 1:43, this unborn Child in Mary's womb is referred to as Elizabeth's "Lord."

Although your bias will not allow you to understand this, but the literal Greek term kyrios here is used to refer to a master or be used in place of the English word "sir."

In context, Elizabeth is celebrating Jesus as her Messiah and Savior (Luke 2:11; John 20:28). She realizes that the Messiah her own son, John, will proclaim, is growing inside of Mary's body at that very moment.

BOOM. Don is unable to give a defense to this:

I do. Obviously these talk about Born Again Christians. You have nothing to back that the RCC is being talked about.
Eastern Orthodox can think these apply to THEIR church. Now who is right and wrong and why?

The gates of hades sure overcame the RCC. You can tell because of all the pagan influences.
Snake in the vatican, at some point in time, the pope was being carried like the Ark of the Covenant (mockery of God), the pope promoting Lgtb+ agenda, rampant s*ual abuse, people's many testimonies of RCC hindering relationship with God, and more.

Born Again Christian Church will not be overcome. RCC already has been.

RCC new ideas get torn to tatters because error dies, Truth Survives.

 

[Consecrated Life]

And obey his commands matt 28:19

Obeying The Lord's commands is something only a person who has already been saved by calling upon the Lord can do .
An unsaved person attempting to Obey God's commands is akin to Cain bringing his offering to God, with the same negative result.

Genesis 4:5
But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.

Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

 

[donadams]

Called the RCC!

The vat 2 sect
Not the one true church
Thks

 

[donadams]

All of that is nothing more than the Catholic dogma that you have been fed. I appreciate your desire but your bias is off the chart.

Here, in Luke 1:43, this unborn Child in Mary's womb is referred to as Elizabeth's "Lord."

Although your bias will not allow you to understand this, but the literal Greek term kyrios here is used to refer to a master or be used in place of the English word "sir."

In context, Elizabeth is celebrating Jesus as her Messiah and Savior (Luke 2:11; John 20:28). She realizes that the Messiah her own son, John, will proclaim, is growing inside of Mary's body at that very moment.

Only if He is Lord God does it make sense
is an unborn baby anointed as messiah?

Thks

 

[donadams]

All of that is nothing more than the Catholic dogma that you have been fed. I appreciate your desire but your bias is off the chart.

Here, in Luke 1:43, this unborn Child in Mary's womb is referred to as Elizabeth's "Lord."

Although your bias will not allow you to understand this, but the literal Greek term kyrios here is used to refer to a master or be used in place of the English word "sir."

In context, Elizabeth is celebrating Jesus as her Messiah and Savior (Luke 2:11; John 20:28). She realizes that the Messiah her own son, John, will proclaim, is growing inside of Mary's body at that very moment.

Please visit the Catholic forum

Our salvation is in Mary!

Thks

 

[donadams]

Obeying The Lord's commands is something only a person who has already been saved by calling upon the Lord can do .
An unsaved person attempting to Obey God's commands is akin to Cain bringing his offering to God, with the same negative result.

Genesis 4:5
But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.

Canon 18. If anyone says that the commandments of God are, even for one that is justified and constituted in grace, impossible to observe, let him be anathema.
Trent

 

[Consecrated Life]

Canon 18. If anyone says that the commandments of God are, even for one that is justified and constituted in grace, impossible to observe, let him be anathema.
Trent

A person who has not called upon the Lord and been Saved, has no respect from God for attempting to obey commands.
Genesis 4:5
But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.