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Muslim really laugh at folks in the Western World

Papa Zoom said:
Written to Israel, not us. And there's a matter of law here in the US. Federal law that for years has been ignored. The government has a responsibility of providing a coherent and responsible immigration policy and then to follow it. That hasn't happened here but hopefully it will now.
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Yeah, written to Israel. But do you not hear those words? You know, Jesus spoke of the stranger as well. And he too, said you shall love him as you love yourself.
 
Papa Zoom said:
That is a crazy thing to say. I asked to show us where Jesus gave a command to do the things you say we are commanded to do. Can you provide the quote in the NT from Jesus?
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The comment was grounded upon the words of a BOOK. What is written in the pages of the book. In the pages of the book, it is written for certain things you shall be stoned to death. Why do I need to quote Jesus for you, when it is the words of Moses to which I refer? The words of Moses, they are part of the BOOK, aren't they? Or is that what you deny?
 
ezrider said:
Yeah, written to Israel. But do you not hear those words? You know, Jesus spoke of the stranger as well. And he too, said you shall love him as you love yourself.
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I agree. But Israel also protected its borders from those who would like to harm them. We have the same responsibility. And those that would harm us don't come with signs that say, "I'm the bad guy!" They hide among the sheep.
 
ezrider said:
The comment was grounded upon the words of a BOOK. What is written in the pages of the book. In the pages of the book, it is written for certain things you shall be stoned to death. Why do I need to quote Jesus for you, when it is the words of Moses to which I refer? The words of Moses, they are part of the BOOK, aren't they? Or is that what you deny?
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Because we follow Jesus and you are addressing Christians. And you are incorrect that the words are the words of a book. A book has no words. Authors do. So the words are the words of an author. Recorded in a book.
 
Papa Zoom said:
Because we follow Jesus and you are addressing Christians. And you are incorrect that the words are the words of a book. A book has no words. Authors do. So the words are the words of an author. Recorded in a book.
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I got it. The words of the book are not really words in a book. They are words of an author, but the book itself has no words. So if a BOOK has NO words, then the Bible is full of blank pages. Well, you may be onto something here, because the prophet Isaiah declared that the vision of all has become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed!
 
ezrider said:
I got it. The words of the book are not really words in a book. They are words of an author, but the book itself has no words. So if a BOOK has NO words, then the Bible is full of blank pages. Well, you may be onto something here, because the prophet Isaiah declared that the vision of all has become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed!
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Now you've got it!
 
Papa Zoom said:
Because we follow Jesus and you are addressing Christians. And you are incorrect that the words are the words of a book. A book has no words. Authors do. So the words are the words of an author. Recorded in a book.
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hello Papa Zoom, dirtfarmer here

Scriptures are word pictures. Jesus told the Jews in John 5:39 " Search the scriptures: for in them ye think ye have eternal life: but they are they which testify of me." Many people have done to the scriptures what the Jews did to the brazen serpent of Numbers 21:8 as is recorded in 2 Kings 18:4. They have made it an object of worship. Scripture is not an object of worship, but Jesus, which the scriptures give witness to, is our object of worship.
 
dirtfarmer said:
hello Papa Zoom, dirtfarmer here

Scriptures are word pictures. Jesus told the Jews in John 5:39 " Search the scriptures: for in them ye think ye have eternal life: but they are they which testify of me." Many people have done to the scriptures what the Jews did to the brazen serpent of Numbers 21:8 as is recorded in 2 Kings 18:4. They have made it an object of worship. Scripture is not an object of worship, but Jesus, which the scriptures give witness to, is our object of worship.
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I agree. Which is why they are not just words in a book. They are the very words of God to us written through human instruments by the power of the Holy Spirit. When we speak of the Bible, we ought to keep that fact in mind. That is the very point I'm leaning to.
 
th1b.taylor said:
Illustrating the truth that you are unstudied in this matter. The Passenger Jets, full of American Passengers, that were flown into the World Trade Towers murdering thousands of people were hijacked by citizens of a partner nation, Saudi Arabia. The Passenger Jet that was flown into the Pentagon, murdering the passengers and folks at work there, were from our partner nation, Saudi Arabia. Flight 93 crashed before reaching DC that is considered to have been aimed at the Bush filled White House crashed short of it's target because the passengers preferred dying a few moments early to allowing members of our Ally Nation, Saudi Arabia to slaughter a larger number of Americans. All of them were considered friendly, amical folks.

The Arab that slaughterer the folks at the Christmas Party in California worked alongside the people he slaughtered. The Arab that used the hatchet hammer to try to murder the Police Officer in NYC was not ill thought of before he used the hatchet end, attempting to murder that officer. The Arab that shot, trying to murder the Officer in Pennsylvania was a "nice man. The Arabs that raped the women at the October Fest in Germany were War Refugees that Germany felt sorry for. The Arabs that slaughtered the people in Paris, both times were War Refugees seeking a safe place to be and yet they attacked Paris, twice.

These are just a few of the deceptive strikes and I have left recent strikes from England and the rest of the World alone but do you want me to go on or do you begin to peek at the, unavoidable, truth thaqt the Follower of Christ must see if he follows because Discernment is given to the Saved.

And if you will do the research I suggested earlier and ask your "friends" the pertinent questions about their faith in question, carefully, structured so as not to offend, as I have when I was still working, you will be shocked because World Conquest has been the driving force of their "religion" from the days of Mohamed, their "Prophet."

Most Americans are ignorant of the truth that Islam has been at a Declared War with us, the US since Andy Jackson was president and sent the Navy to shut them down whe3n they were known as the Barbary Pirates of the Ottoman Empire.
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in 20 years Muslims have killed around one million worldwide compared to the US military which has killed 15 million. when it comes to killing these Muslims are not even in the same league as we are.
 
Silmarien said:
Did you quote me by accident? If not, I have no idea what's going on!
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No, it was not a mistake. You made a stab at justifying the religion of war and as religions go, it get the followers into Hell just as quick as any religion where one does not live for Jesus and consult with Him from minute to minute. Even most "Christians" fall into that catagory but to attempted to justify Islam?
 
kiwidan said:
Jihadists just flipped out in Canada a couple hours ago. Multiple deaths.
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I'm just awake, 8:38 here, and saw this on FNC when I changed channels, looking to see what was happening. Sad sick Religious People digging their way into Hell and the Abyss.
 
civilwarbuff said:
That must be a very deep pile of sand you have your head buried in to even ask such a question......But I did see the Pentagon smouldering the day after the jetliner was crashed into it...
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I can go one better, the Twin Towers that no longer grace the sky line of New York City, I saw the airliner crash into the second tower. So yes, I watched them murder thousands of people.
 
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