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My Peace Symbol

Lewis

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Brother turnorburn, brought something to my attention that I never knew, and by me being an ex hippie, I never thought nothing of this, because back in the day, I had peace symbols on my Land Lubber jeans, on my jean jackets, and I also would make the peace symbol sign with my fingers. Now I have a peace symbol for a avatar, that I will remove until I make sure that this is not a satan sign or what, but anyway read this, turnorburn, gave me this link that I am going to paste here. And also what did I find on the ground at my job today ? A peace symbol necklace.


The Peace Sign and Satanism


The signal "actually began as a symbol of Satanic benediction during the rituals.'' This sign has been used by Yasser Arafat, Richard Nixon, Winston Churchill, and Stewart Meacham, Co-Chairman of Reds' New Mobilisation Committee." Churchill said that the sign stood for victory but remember that Churchill was one of the insider "elite" and a Mason. He most likely knew the evil significance of this symbol but tried to give it a facelift.
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The "v sign" has a colourful history. "V" is the Roman sign for the number five and Adam Weishaupt used it in the Illuminati to symbolise the "Law of Fives,'' but there's more. In the Cabala:

"the meaning for the Hebrew letter for V (Van) is 'Nail.' Now, 'The Nail' is one of the secret titles of Satan within the Brotherhood of Satanism. Satan is letting us know that this is one of his favourite signs. Why else does he like the PENTA-gram (Penta = five!) and the FIVE-fold salute used in Masonry and Witchcraft?''

Furthermore:

"The Leftists, radicals, and Satanists who have popularised that sign...know its ancient significance very well. In fact, that 'V' sign is now used extensively by such Communist organisations as the Young Socialist Alliance, Vets for Peace in Vietnam, and the Students for a Democratic Society."

Although not a hand sign, the peace symbol itself needs to be examined.

"Known as the 'peace sign' throughout the 1960's and into the present day, this symbol is the Teutonic rune of death. 1950's peace advocate Gerald Holtom may have been commissioned by communist sympathiser Bertrand Russell to design a symbol to unite leftist peace marchers in 1958. It is clear that either Holtom or Russell deemed the Teutonic (Neronic) cross as the appropriate symbol for their cause.

"Throughout the last 2,000 years this symbol has designated hatred of Christians. Nero, who despised Christians, crucified the Apostle Peter on a cross head downward. This hideous event resembled the Teutonic cross and became a popular pagan insignia of the day. Thereafter, this sign became known as the 'Neronic cross.'

"The symbol's origin in history proves it to be the visual mystic character for 'Aum' (the split 'Y'). This is the sacred word to the Hindu. Chanting 'Aum' is supposed to help awaken 'the serpent power of Brahma' at the base of the human spine. Occultist Albert Pike also identifies this symbol as mystical in his book on Freemasonry Morals and Dogma.

The peace symbol (also called the "broken cross," "crow's foot," "witch's foot," "Nero Cross," "sign of the 'broken Jew,'" and the "symbol of the 'anti-Christ''') is actually a cross with the arms broken. It also signifies the "gesture of despair," and the "death of man.''

"The Germanic tribes who used it attributed strange and mystical properties to the sign. Such a 'rune' is said to have been used by 'black magicians' in pagan incantations and condemnations....To this very day the inverted broken cross--identical to the socialists' 'peace' symbol--is known in Germany as a 'todersrune,' or death rune. Not only was it ordered by Hitler's National Socialists that it must appear on German death notices, but it was part of the official inscription prescribed for the gravestones of Nazi officers of the dread SS. The symbol suited Nazi emphasis on pagan mysticism.''

With the arms of the cross raised in an upright position, it is "a Pythagorean emblem of the course of life, in the form of a rising path with fork roads to Good and Evil.'' It also signifies fertility, but with the arms pointing downward, it denotes evil and death.

"In fact, the inverted 'Man-rune'--the figure encircled in the common sign which the Communists tell us means 'peace'--has for centuries been a favourite sign of Satanists.''

Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, used the peace symbol as the backdrop for his altar.

One former witch makes the following comment about the peace symbol:

"It is an ancient and powerful symbol of Antichrist. During the dark ages it was used in Druid Witchcraft and by Satanists of all sorts during the initiation of a new member to their order. They would draw the magic circle and give the initiate a cross. The initiate would then lift the cross and turn it upside down. He would then renounce Christianity in all three dimensions (sic) of time (past, present and future) and break the horizontal pieces downward forming the design of the 'Raven's Foot.' This ugly symbol is nothing short of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. For one to wear or display this symbol is to announce either knowingly or unknowingly that you have rejected Christ. Remember, symbolism is a picture language, and a picture is worth a thousand words.''

Below are a few examples of how the peace symbol is being used.

Another hand signal is the Vulcan peace sign. It is supposed to mean "Live Long and Prosper," and can be seen in Star Trek.

Vulcan was a sun deity who was associated with fire, thunderbolts, and light. The festival in honour of him was called the Vulcania in which human sacrifices were offered. "According to Diel, he bears a family relationship to the Christian devil.' It is fascinating to know that he married Venus, another name for Lucifer or the devil. What is even more interesting is that Vulcan is adored in Masonry under the name of Tubal Cain. In the Masonic Quiz Book the question is asked: "Who was Tubal Cain?" The answer is: "He is the Vulcan of the pagans.''

In Masonry, Tubal Cain is the name of the password for the Master Mason (or third) degree.

Listen to what occultist and Mason, Manly Palmer Hall, has to say:

"When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mastery of his craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy. He must follow in the footsteps of his forefather, Tubal-Cain, who with the mighty strength of the war god hammered his sword into a ploughshare.''

There is also a sexual connotation associated with Vulcan and Tubal Cain. Former Mason, Bill Schnoebelen, explains:

"For Masons who wish to conceal their membership from non-Masons, but still advertise it to their Lodge brothers, there is a special pin (or tie tack) they can wear. It looks like an upside down golf club with two balls near the top....Many people assume the person is a golfing enthusiast, but it is actually a visual Masonic pun.

"This is called the 'Two Ball Cane,' and is a pun on the secret password of a Master Mason, 'Tubalcain (sic).'...It is also an all-too-obvious pun on the 'god' of Masonry, the male reproductive organ. Nice, eh?...especially when many men wear these wretched things to church on Sunday!"

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 ... e_sign.htm
 
Interesting...

I was just afraid that your sparkly peace sign avatar might provoke seizures or hallucinations. :lol
 
Wow.

I had heard that it was a broken cross, but that was it. I had no idea what all was involved with that symbol.

Out of curiosity, I'm going to be paying more attention to pins and tie tacks. :lol
 
Now my thing is, it does not have to represent the same thing. Today it means peace, so what's the big deal. I don't know, I have been dealing with that symbol I guess since 1969, so this hurts me. I will look into this even more, and if any of you have the time check it out too.
 
And to imagine, a hippie friend of mine told me eons ago that it came from some war back when, and excuse the lack of detail, but it went something like this.

The Bow and Arrow played a significant role in a war (can't remember which one in Europe) but anyway, when the enemy would capture men from the other side, they would cut off their two fingers so they could not shoot a bow any longer, so the "peace" sign became a sign to the other side that "We've still got our fingers", which in essence meant they were still fighting. Ended up that they won the war and kept the "peace" sign as a reminder to keep the peace to those who opposed them.

But anyway, not sure how much truth there is to this, if any, but it as a great story!
 
I've never heard of that for the peace sign, but I guess it makes sense considering the reverse peace sign (with the fingers) is a vulgar hand gesture in Britain. This is the story:

According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War.[4][15] The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt.[16] But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech.[17] If this is correct it confirms that the story was around at the time of Agincourt, although it doesn't necessarily mean that the French practised it, just that Henry found it useful for propaganda, and it does not show that the 'two-fingers salute' is derived from the hypothetical behaviour of English archers at that battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign_as_ ... _an_insult
 
It just goes to show that there is a lesser known history to so many of the symbols and gestures that we use in our everyday lives, its very interesting when you find out the meaning behind something that is seen so often.
 
I brought this to the attention of Relic a few years ago. It was first brought to my attention several years ago in a very obscure way; I had a small peace sign as an avatar on a small Christian site I belonged to before coming here. One member asked me why I didn't think my peace sign was akin to eating meat offered up to idols. I didn't understand what he meant but I took down the peace sign.

I finally figured out what he was implying. :amen
 
Well I guess this ends my long and illustrious career with the peace symbol, good by old friend :puppydogeyes :bigcry :crying :crying4
 
Actually, the peace sign is a combination of two signs. If anyone is familiar with semaphore then you will recognize the upside down "V" sign which is "N". You will also know the sign that looks like "I", which means "D". The peace symbol is an "N" and a "D" put together, and the N.D. stands for Nuclear Disarmament. It was designed back in the 50's for some British nuclear rally.

The "V" sign that many people make with their fingers has nothing to do with peace, or nuclear disarmament. The "V" sign was a creation of Winston Churchill to symbolize victory after World War Two, which, ironically, ended with two nuclear warheads.
 
What would we, Christians, do if we learn the origins of most of the holidays before they were Christianized?

(Not trying to change subject, just saying...)
 
Thanks for finding that Caroline! :thumb

Well, to me, the peace sign is nothing more than a symbol that represents loose thinking and wild rebellion against God and the way God wants us to live.

When you look at the apex of what happened in San Francisco during the 60's, with such liberal spiritual thinking, it led to thousands and thousands of young teens stranded on the streets being prayed upon by sexual molestors and afforded minds such as Charles Manson to flourish.

This inner spiritual movement also gave birth to such figures as Anton LaVey. Need I say more?

Our kids today think that being a hippie is cool because it allows them to believe they have more rights and freedoms than whats good for them. The hippies had a motto, 'if it feels good, do it'. This is the epitomy of selfishness and the result was sexual pleasures with anyone you had a desire for and the fall out was children who didn't know who their father was, or children growing up without either parent having a significant role in their lives.

This led to comunes where socialism reigned supreem with the governance for those who lasted likened to Jim Jones etc.

Peace, Love and Freedom are all novel ideas and they entice our senses, but to, as John Lennon would put it, "Imagine all the people, living life in peace"... is but that, it's a dream and finds no biblical support.

Time to come back to reality.
 
Caroline H said:
I've never heard of that for the peace sign, but I guess it makes sense considering the reverse peace sign (with the fingers) is a vulgar hand gesture in Britain. This is the story:

According to a popular legend the two-fingers salute and/or V sign derives from the gestures of longbowmen fighting in the English army at the Battle of Agincourt (1415) during the Hundred Years' War.[4][15] The story claims that the French claimed that they would cut off the arrow-shooting fingers of all the English and Welsh longbowmen after they had won the battle at Agincourt.[16] But the English came out victorious and showed off their two fingers, still intact. Historian Juliet Barker quotes Jean Le Fevre (who fought on the English side at Agincourt) as saying that Henry V included a reference to the French cutting off longbowmen's fingers in his pre-battle speech.[17] If this is correct it confirms that the story was around at the time of Agincourt, although it doesn't necessarily mean that the French practised it, just that Henry found it useful for propaganda, and it does not show that the 'two-fingers salute' is derived from the hypothetical behaviour of English archers at that battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign_as_ ... _an_insult

I heard a story close tot hat, however it was the middle finger, not the "V" sign. Don't have a source, it was on the History Channel. Literally everything Caroline said was the same, except it was middle finger instead of "V" sign.
 
Kilo said:
What would we, Christians, do if we learn the origins of most of the holidays before they were Christianized?

(Not trying to change subject, just saying...)
Stick around; they become hot topics when these 'holidays' come up. :D
 
i want to correct something on the vulcan(the hand gesture) of greetings and goodbye

according to leonard nimoy a jew and raised in the temple, that is the letter formed when the rabbis bless the kosher breads and food.

google it if you doubt.
 
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