Poll: Is ear piercing really too 'liberal'?

[Claudya]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

Eh that's just a dream that is more hypothetical at the moment, so no need to discuss it at all. But you asked, so I answered. :p

Anyway, I read a line somewhere that made me think of you, farouk. Translated as best as I can it's like:
"Earrings on a guy give proof that the guy is well prepared for marriage. Because they prove that he can endure pain and is capable of buying jewelry."

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

this: I guess the 'Don't know' option covers it...

Not really. "Don't know" would imply I care. :toofunny

 

[farouk]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

Eh that's just a dream that is more hypothetical at the moment, so no need to discuss it at all. But you asked, so I answered. :p

Anyway, I read a line somewhere that made me think of you, farouk. Translated as best as I can it's like:
"Earrings on a guy give proof that the guy is well prepared for marriage. Because they prove that he can endure pain and is capable of buying jewelry."

Claudya: Oh okay; anyway my kind of low key question was just specific to earrings, I suppose.

Interesting quote!

 

[Claudya]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

Claudya: Oh okay; anyway my kind of low key question was just specific to earrings, I suppose.

Guess we got derailed.

Interesting quote!

Interesting? It's supposed to be funny. ;) No sexism intended.

 

[farouk]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

Not really. "Don't know" would imply I care. :toofunny

this: Yes, well some of the polls I started have actually combined the phrases: 'Don't know/don't care'; I guess the shorter version was just shorthand, really.

Some ppl prefer bare earlobes and have no interest, otherwise, which is just fine. I can sympathize.

(Other folks take their 'don't know/don't care' to the extent of going after young people who might even visit a parlor, and trying to moralize against them! )

 

[farouk]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

Guess we got derailed.


Interesting? It's supposed to be funny. ;) No sexism intended.

Of all the phrases that could even conceivably be used about you, Claudya, sexist isn't one which would readily come to mind...

(Better report the derailment, too, to the Deutsche Bundesbahn...)

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

(Other folks take their 'don't know/don't care' to the extent of going after young people who might even visit a parlor, and trying to moralize against them! )

That wouldn't be me.

 

[farouk]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

That wouldn't be me.

this: Oh, no; I can see this; I wasn't suggesting it; my guess is, you would probably just say to 18 year olds, something like, Have a great birthday trip to the parlor and let me drink my coffee in peace...

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

this: Oh, no; I can see this; I wasn't suggesting it; my guess is, you would probably just say to 18 year olds, something like, Have a great birthday trip to the parlor and let me drink my coffee in peace...

We you spying on me the day my daughter wanted to get her ears pierced???



Ten years ago??

 

[farouk]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

We you spying on me the day my daughter wanted to get her ears pierced???



Ten years ago??

this: Far from spying, a natural and entirely predictable turn of events...

 

[farouk]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

I had my ear holes done with a gun. Although the piercing procedure went well and was almost painless they never really healed up, I was in pain most of the time when wearing earrings and I had to stop wearing them alltogether. I was twelve at that time and the holes have healed up and are closed now.
The pistol piercing destroys a lot more ear lobe tissue than a needle piercing. Plus, ear lobe pistol piercings are often done by jewelers or hair stylists in their shops instead of trained piercers under clean sterile conditions in a parlour.
I want to get my ears pierced again, but I'm gonna have them done with a needle this time. It's probably much safer, although more expensive (like 20-25€ each hole) and probably more painfull (but better a little more pain during the piercing but a good healing afterwards than a painless gun shot piercing that never heals well and hurts for years).

Claudya:

Were the Berlin Wall and the DDR gone before you guys had piercing guns in use for earlobes?

 

[JohnR]

Re: Okay so best way to pierce ears?

I knew a doctor that would pierce his patients ears for free. The reason was that he had to treat so many infections with people that had their ears pierced under unsanitary conditions. Actually he was a pediatrician so the patients were often pretty young. So my answer is to get the most professional person you can, where your going to have the least chance of an infection.

 

[farouk]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

Nope, no doctrine involved.

Deborah13:

Re-reading now what you said here, I think this is one of the very many matters which, not being of doctrinal significance, need to be left to family and individual discretion, without busy-bodying or guilt-manipulating, which achieve nothing.

Blessings.

 

[vocalyocal]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

Just thinking, in the light of the other thread about trashing 'liberals': so many of the things that 'liberals', whoever they exactly are, are accused of, seem to boil down to subjective. cultural things. You know; 70 or 80 years ago, a baptist pastor's wife was supposedly 'liberal' if she wore lipstick. Now they all do (seemingly). But now another bugbear that some good folk seem to have is, if a young man is allowed to pierce his ears, then this is somehow an indication that his parents are 'liberal'. (Whereas the parents and the young man himself may well hold a very conservative, Biblical approach to matters of personal faith.)

Is it a matter of mindset?

I would contend that its hard to walk in the spirit when we are trying to fit into the world

 

[farouk]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

I would contend that its hard to walk in the spirit when we are trying to fit into the world

vocalyocal:

Wow, so you're saying that a Godly woman can't walk in the Spirit if her lips are red, and studs in a young man's ears have the same effect? Wow!

 

[vocalyocal]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

vocalyocal:

Wow, so you're saying that a Godly woman can't walk in the Spirit if her lips are red, and studs in a young man's ears have the same effect? Wow!

did I say that?.......no I did not, maybe if you read a bit slower instead of jumping the gun you will stop jumping to the extremes

the bible says this "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God."

does anyone think God wants His children to conform their looks to mimic those seen in hollywood.......Is that what the Holy Spirit would tell you?, do what everybody else is doing, Its important that you make yourself look like the people of this world, when this world is supposedly not your home

my question would be not that you can or can't pierce your ears for a boy, but why do you want to do it, my guess is they want to do it so they can look cool in the eyes of others, this would be a worldly action and not a Godly one

 

[farouk]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

did I say that?.......no I did not, maybe if you read a bit slower instead of jumping the gun you will stop jumping to the extremes

the bible says this "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God."

does anyone think God wants His children to conform their looks to mimic those seen in hollywood.......Is that what the Holy Spirit would tell you?, do what everybody else is doing, Its important that you make yourself look like the people of this world, when this world is supposedly not your home

my question would be not that you can or can't pierce your ears for a boy, but why do you want to do it, my guess is they want to do it so they can look cool in the eyes of others, this would be a worldly action and not a Godly one

Sorry, vocalyokel: but I do want to ask, if for her birthday a parent takes a teen daughter to have studs put in her ears, does this make it, to use your words, 'a worldly action and not a Godly one'? and does this really change the spiritual life of the teen daughter or the parent? If a parent's teen son asks for an ear stud, and his friends at his church youth group already have them, is it, to use your word, 'a worldly action and not a Godly one' if the parent allows it for his birthday, and does this really change the spiritual life of the teen son or the parent?

I don't understand the logic of what you are saying.

 

[vocalyocal]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

Sorry, vocalyokel: but I do want to ask, if for her birthday a parent takes a teen daughter to have studs put in her ears, does this make it, to use your words, 'a worldly action and not a Godly one'? and does this really change the spiritual life of the teen daughter or the parent? If a parent's teen son asks for an ear stud, and his friends at his church youth group already have them, is it, to use your word, 'a worldly action and not a Godly one' if the parent allows it for his birthday, and does this really change the spiritual life of the teen son or the parent?

I don't understand the logic of what you are saying.

actually if we walked 100% in the spirit 100% of the time you would already know the answer, we would not do hardly any of the things we do on a daily basis. The apostle Paul mentions some of the things you are refering to as women should dress modestly with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing

so if you can see that trying to make yourself up to look like a movie star is not a Spirit led action, and if everyone is getting piercings and it is what the world is conforming to do, then the answer is don't get them

as for the girls birthday, why not get her a new bible, maybe one that she can read, so that she wouldn't want to look like honey boo boo....lol

 

[farouk]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

actually if we walked 100% in the spirit 100% of the time you would already know the answer, we would not do hardly any of the things we do on a daily basis. The apostle Paul mentions some of the things you are refering to as women should dress modestly with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing

so if you can see that trying to make yourself up to look like a movie star is not a Spirit led action, and if everyone is getting piercings and it is what the world is conforming to do, then the answer is don't get them

as for the girls birthday, why not get her a new bible, maybe one that she can read, so that she wouldn't want to look like honey boo boo....lol

vocalyokel:

So basically your notion of Christian spirituality includes being free to say derogatory things about Christian women with red lips, and about young people with studs in their ears.

Well, I see.

 

[reba]

Re: Is it supposedly 'liberal' to let your son pierce his ears?

did I say that?.......no I did not, maybe if you read a bit slower instead of jumping the gun you will stop jumping to the extremes

the bible says this "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God."

does anyone think God wants His children to conform their looks to mimic those seen in hollywood.......Is that what the Holy Spirit would tell you?, do what everybody else is doing, Its important that you make yourself look like the people of this world, when this world is supposedly not your home

my question would be not that you can or can't pierce your ears for a boy, but why do you want to do it, my guess is they want to do it so they can look cool in the eyes of others, this would be a worldly action and not a Godly one

People in Hollywood comb their hair. They wear jeans, dresses, sunglasses, suits, some have tatts so do we pick and choose "things" that set us apart from the world.. or is that settled in our hearts.