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jasonc said:
Modern Edom isn't a brother biologically like edom,the hashamite kings of syria and Jordan are kin ,but not even close to isreal.

Edom didn't speak Arabic .modern Edom is jordan.
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Well, maybe3 one of us is right and maybe we both need to pull our hueads out of the bucket and breath. I don't want to grow to be dogmatic about it because you or somebody else might prove me a silly man for one that was a soldier, we are never to grow silly and act like women, LOL.

Hello Reba and ladies, I'm already in flight! :couch
 
I'm familiar with isreal,her history .I can post the recorded history of Edom, king herod was an edomite,the former capital of Edom was a church in the roman persecution days.christians hid in that cave city .
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Ezekiel,37-38 are about Gog invading the land of Israel 1000 years after armegedon .Havnt you read revelation 20?You can read about it here.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-8.htm

The war I am discussing is found here.
http://biblehub.com/zechariah/14-2.htm
This is referencing aarmegedon when the city of Jerusalem is taken from Israel.Can you see where it says the city is taken and the women raped?

That's not Gog.
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And I did not contend with those but the City of Jerusalem will be destroyed about a thousand years after Jesus enters the City through the gate the idiot Arabs concreted shut to keep Him out. And so I say, 'Only God, about a thousand years after the Day of the LORD. Wh are you trying to modify the subject?
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Ezekiel,37-38 are about Gog invading the land of Israel 1000 years after armegedon .Havnt you read revelation 20?You can read about it here.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-8.htm

The war I am discussing is found here.
http://biblehub.com/zechariah/14-2.htm
This is referencing aarmegedon when the city of Jerusalem is taken from Israel.Can you see where it says the city is taken and the women raped?

That's not Gog.
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Oh, and I did not say Eze 37 & 38, I said 37-39, it gives a greater context and is about the subject of war against YHWH's Holy City on the earth. It is foolish to get upset with me and try to bend what I stated into your own personal lie and attribute it to me.
 
th1b.taylor said:
Well, maybe3 one of us is right and maybe we both need to pull our hueads out of the bucket and breath. I don't want to grow to be dogmatic about it because you or somebody else might prove me a silly man for one that was a soldier, we are never to grow silly and act like women, LOL.

Hello Reba and ladies, I'm already in flight! :couch
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Ya got to sleep sometime :yes so you better sleep with one eye opened :hips
 
Within Revelations we study the OT with the NT, times, cultures and history. Here is prophecy as God's longsuffering and patience is wearing thin as He would that none should perish.

The second Temple was built under Ezra’s leadership and Israel continued practicing Judaism and their Temple was desecrated as part of an effort to impose Greek-oriented culture and customs on the entire population. Roman rule refurbished the temple as Herod, Romans vassal king, rules the land of Israel. In 70 A.D. the Temple is once again destroyed. The Temple Mount was taken over in 691 A.D. as the Arab nation built the Dome of the Rock and there has not been any other Temple built since that time on the original Temple Mount.

God gave Israel 490 years to repent. They were set free from Babylon when the Medes and Persian conquered Babylon (Chaldeans) around 538 B.C. They were allowed back in the land and to rebuild the city of Jerusalem, however, they still did not repent for their sin of idol worshipping and they continued to receive punishment from God as the kingdom was taken away and eventually taken over by the Roman Empire. Malachi Chapter 1-4.

The 490 years were up and many of the Jews not only did not repent but they killed the very Messiah they had been waiting for as well as in 24 A.D. they made an opened display of rejecting the Gospel message as they stoned Stephen being the final messenger that was sent to give them their last chance to repent. The Jews were now rejected as God’s chosen people and were no different from the Gentiles as from that time forth each individual, Jew and Gentile has to make their own decision to accept or reject Jesus as Lord and Savior, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10. The disciples were called first to preach to the Jews, Matthew 10:6, and Paul was called to preach to the Gentiles, Acts 22:21. God has saved a remnant out of the twelve tribes of Israel even up to a thousand generations that have always been faithful to Him, Exodus 20:1-6; Psalms 105:7, 8, but those who have yet to accept Jesus as Messiah God will continue to cut them off.

We know how history repeats itself as Jerusalem has been destroyed twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. This will continue with the last battle to come against Israel when God sends all nations to battle against her, Zechariah 14 ;1,2
 
th1b.taylor said:
And I did not contend with those but the City of Jerusalem will be destroyed about a thousand years after Jesus enters the City through the gate the idiot Arabs concreted shut to keep Him out. And so I say, 'Only God, about a thousand years after the Day of the LORD. Wh are you trying to modify the subject?
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If you pay close attention to Ezekiel ,you will find that Gog invades a land that has been recovered from war.The war it is speaking if is armegedon because there is no war between armegedon and 1000 years later when Gog invades.
Yes ,the city of Jerusalem shallbe desolate.The abomination tatcauses desolation shall make it desolate.Waste.
http://biblehub.com/luke/21-20.htm
 
Shilohsfoal said:
If you pay close attention to Ezekiel
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The inclusion of a personal snipe will get you into trouble with the Moderators, don't go there, you won't like it, I know. The truth is God has made many promises and He will fulfill every one of them and if the Cemented Gate is not there and all of Jerusalem is not there for Christ to rule from, the Bible lies and YHWH never utters anything but the truth, Jerusalem's end is after the Millennial Reign.

If you had read as I asked you to you would have noticed the events leading up to YHWH's protecting Jerusalm and all of the Jewish Believers from the invasion of Gog, Russia, and Magog, the Arab Trash, currently composed of the Terrorists tring to enact Jihad.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
If you pay close attention to Ezekiel ,you will find that Gog invades a land that has been recovered from war.The war it is speaking if is armegedon because there is no war between armegedon and 1000 years later when Gog invades.
Yes ,the city of Jerusalem shallbe desolate.The abomination tatcauses desolation shall make it desolate.Waste.
http://biblehub.com/luke/21-20.htm
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What is prophesied in Zechariah and confirmed in Luke is that of Rev 19. When Christ returns with His army and cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire. The remnant being all the world leaders out of every nation that followed after the beast as they were already sealed for annihilation as partakers in the NWO.

Zechariah 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. 6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
I believe vs. 5 means in the end of days all people out of every nation that are still alive at Christ coming that are His own will flee to a safe place like that in the days of Uzziah and wait for those who are asleep in the grave to be resurrected that all will be changed and gathered to Christ as He fights the final battle in Rev 19.

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
 
th1b.taylor said:
The inclusion of a personal snipe will get you into trouble with the Moderators, don't go there, you won't like it, I know. The truth is God has made many promises and He will fulfill every one of them and if the Cemented Gate is not there and all of Jerusalem is not there for Christ to rule from, the Bible lies and YHWH never utters anything but the truth, Jerusalem's end is after the Millennial Reign.

If you had read as I asked you to you would have noticed the events leading up to YHWH's protecting Jerusalm and all of the Jewish Believers from the invasion of Gog, Russia, and Magog, the Arab Trash, currently composed of the Terrorists tring to enact Jihad.
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Gog will have to wait 1000 yearsbefite he vets his turn.Jerusalem,will be desolate.And it doesn't matter if not a is gee building remains,it will stillbe Jerusalem.Hiroshima was desolate and yet it remained named Hiroshima.Today it still Hiroshima.

Jesus said Jerusalem,shall be desolate and it shall. I will take his word on it.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Gog will have to wait 1000 yearsbefite he vets his turn.Jerusalem,will be desolate.And it doesn't matter if not a is gee building remains,it will stillbe Jerusalem.Hiroshima was desolate and yet it remained named Hiroshima.Today it still Hiroshima.

Jesus said Jerusalem,shall be desolate and it shall. I will take his word on it.
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I have not seen you try to prove your case ad without Bible evidence you can never overcome the scriptural account plus the leading and teaching of the Holy Spirit.

I do not know why you opened this conversation without scripture to back your opinions.
 
th1b.taylor said:
I have not seen you try to prove your case ad without Bible evidence you can never overcome the scriptural account plus the leading and teaching of the Holy Spirit.

I do not know why you opened this conversation without scripture to back your opinions.
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I've given you links to bible verses stating facts.Revelation is,fact not the fiction you are pushing.

Fact.1000 years after the first resurrection of those who did not worship the beast which is destroyed during the war of armeggedon,Then Gog invades Israel.Proof is here in this chapter.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-8.htm

You have no timeline for Gogs invasion because you ignore revelation.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
I've given you links to bible verses stating facts.Revelation is,fact not the fiction you are pushing.

Fact.1000 years after the first resurrection of those who did not worship the beast which is destroyed during the war of armeggedon,Then Gog invades Israel.Proof is here in this chapter.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-8.htm

You have no timeline for Gods invasion because you ignore revelation.
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If you notice in Rev 20:7-9 the key part is that of Satan being loosed and sending his army to surround the camp and the beloved city (Jerusalem) is that there will be no battle as God sends fire down from heaven and consumes the army and then Satan is cast into the lake of fire where he will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. You need to get out of biblehub and actually read your Bible to get the full context. I already have given what the real battle will be in post #131 as that will begin when Christ returns with His army after that of the beast out of the sea and out of the land before Satan is bound.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
I've given you links to bible verses stating facts.Revelation is,fact not the fiction you are pushing.

Fact.1000 years after the first resurrection of those who did not worship the beast which is destroyed during the war of armeggedon,Then Gog invades Israel.Proof is here in this chapter.
http://biblehub.com/revelation/20-8.htm

You have no timeline for Gogs invasion because you ignore revelation.
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If you continue the personal attacks you will not enjoy thd resut and Dan. 10, Obidiah Ezekiel and all the other prophets are investigated before even beginning to speak to the Day of the LORD and still a certain statement is a rapid way to be made a fool of. I know not from where you have become so wrong that you are tryinng to turn all reason in a conversation on eschatology upside down but you do so with no intelligence, that requires scripture address'. The best thing yu can do is to sit down, tel you momma you, seriously are in need of a cold glass of milk and cool that hot head off. One more childish attack response without scripture and I will report you as a troll.
 
for_his_glory said:
If you notice in Rev 20:7-9 the key part is that of Satan being loosed and sending his army to surround the camp and the beloved city (Jerusalem) is that there will be no battle as God sends fire down from heaven and consumes the army and then Satan is cast into the lake of fire where he will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. You need to get out of biblehub and actually read your Bible to get the full context. I already have given what the real battle will be in post #131 as that will begin when Christ returns with His army after that of the beast out of the sea and out of the land before Satan is bound.
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Ditto, using the web can be a useful tool or it can make a fool of us. I began my upteenth read through on 1/1 off this year and would give a lot if people would study it in that manor and just meditate on it and allow the Holy Spirit they claim to have teach them. And loose the better than thou attitude and realize this forum is filled with us old fossils full of years of study in our sixties and seventies and one or two older than that. But youngsters that recently discovered YHWH think they know it all.
 
th1b.taylor said:
If you continue the personal attacks you will not enjoy thd resut and Dan. 10, Obidiah Ezekiel and all the other prophets are investigated before even beginning to speak to the Day of the LORD and still a certain statement is a rapid way to be made a fool of. I know not from where you have become so wrong that you are tryinng to turn all reason in a conversation on eschatology upside down but you do so with no intelligence, that requires scripture address'. The best thing yu can do is to sit down, tel you momma you, seriously are in need of a cold glass of milk and cool that hot head off. One more childish attack response without scripture and I will report you as a troll.
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I've made no personal attacks ,I've stated the facts of revelation which you ignore. As I have Proven with the word of God,the time line of these events,so thou ignore those facts.
You have not shone any piece of evidence to a time line for Gogs invasion.I have.
Gog does not invaded Israel till 1000 year after the first resurrection when te beast is cast into the lake of fire whichhas not happened yet.
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Gog does not invade Israel,on the day of the Lord.He invades Israel 1000 years AFTER the day of the Lord .The first resurrection takes place Onto day of te Lord.You should trust revelation 20.


Being wrong does not make you a victim.It just means yet wrong.
 
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Seeing this thread has gotten off topic.This thread isn't about Gog or even that time period.I willmake another thread concerning Gog if none else will.
 
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