Hello, and thank you in advance to anyone who can help.
I am currently reading the New International Version in conjunction with the King James Version of the Bible. The reason why I like the New Internation Version is because it puts the verses in a more modern English. The reason I dislike the New Internation Version is because it changes "....man" and "brothers" to things like "someone" and "brothers and sisters". I'd prefer a translation that modernized the text, without making it more "pc". Does anyone know a version that, while modernizing the text, remains more true to the verses?
I already gave you some. Please answer the one in the text first. “This kind comes out by prayer and fasting” as compared to “this kind comes out by prayer” which makes no sense as they pray EVERYTIME and the demon refuses to leave.
Then there’s “no man knows the day nor the hour, not the angels in Heaven but my Father only” (doesn’t include Jesus in not knowing as he is a part of God) whereas in yours it says “even the Son doesn’t know” which makes him NOT a part of the Godhead.
You and I are wasting our time having a discussion on Bible versions as you don't seem to comprehend that the only God-breathed Scriptures are those in the original languages of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. Neither the KJV nor NIV is God-breathed. They are translations from the originals, which we no longer have.
Too bad almighty God was unable to keep the ONLY inspired words of His available. Time and decay were more powerful. “The Word of God endures forever” is just a joke. It doesn’t endure a few centuries.
That is YOUR view. It is not mine.
But since that’s your view there’s no point in discussing the original meaning with you as for you, it’s lost.
One doesn’t need Greek or Hebrew. We aren’t Muslims who insist only the original language conveys the meaning. I’ve yet to meet someone who, by knowing Greek or Hebrew, understood the Bible better as evidenced by the power to live it.
I have. Many of them. Since Hebrew (like Arabic and other semitic languages) has multiple levels of meaning that cannot be conveyed in any other type of language. It explains why the writings of the NT seem sometimes at odds when using the same scripture to say very different things.
It leads to a lot less confusion. And if you want power to live it - confusion is your enemy.
No, your old family KJV had the deuterocanonical books in it. That doesn't mean that all the older KJV printings had the apocrypha. It just means that your family copy had them, nothing more.
Our neighbor's dog has three legs, therefore all dogs have three legs, correct?
really ? i just thought maybe you had a copy of the original , you seemed to know so much ..btw i dont really know how to treat idiots other than just ignore them. since i have not ignored you then i must not be treating you like one
I have. Many of them. Since Hebrew (like Arabic and other semitic languages) has multiple levels of meaning that cannot be conveyed in any other type of language. It explains why the writings of the NT seem sometimes at odds when using the same scripture to say very different things.
It leads to a lot less confusion. And if you want power to live it - confusion is your enemy.
I don’t think power comes from knowing Greek because if we read the letters to the churches, they perfectly knew those languages and still living it was a challenge. Those who heard Jesus speak didn’t always understand and it was their mother tongue. If understanding Greek was the key university professors of theology would be the most christlike of all.
D-D-W, if understandings the scriptures translates to therefore DOING them, then we’d see different people in the church. Let’s try an experiment. Let’s see if this is how men are in real life. “Forgive others or your Father will not forgive you.” That’s pretty easy. We all understand it. Does this we all easily forgive those who do us wrong?
I don’t think power comes from knowing Greek because if we read the letters to the churches, they perfectly knew those languages and still living it was a challenge. Those who heard Jesus speak didn’t always understand and it was their mother tongue. If understanding Greek was the key university professors of theology would be the most christlike of all.
Those who heard our Master speak did NOT hear Him speak Greek. He spoke Aramaic, an offshoot of Hebrew.
You cannot possibly understand the Greek in the NT without FIRST knowing Hebrew and/or Aramaic.
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D-D-W, if understandings the scriptures translates to therefore DOING them, then we’d see different people in the church. Let’s try an experiment. Let’s see if this is how men are in real life. “Forgive others or your Father will not forgive you.” That’s pretty easy. We all understand it. Does this we all easily forgive those who do us wrong?
Those who heard our Master speak did NOT hear Him speak Greek. He spoke Aramaic, an offshoot of Hebrew.
You cannot possibly understand the Greek in the NT without FIRST knowing Hebrew and/or Aramaic.
You cannot possibly understand all Jesus spoke unless you obey Him. “Unless you forgive others God will not forgive you.” That’s pretty clear and no Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic needed.
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Has anyone read "The New New Testament"? I just bought a copy and it seems to be very interesting at first glance. It includes the translation of ancient writings other than the canonical "books", based on fairly recent discoveries.
And please, spare me the "it's not the Bible", "it's not God's word", "the church fathers knew what was authentic", etc. I want to know what you think of this well-researched book.
Has anyone read "The New New Testament"? I just bought a copy and it seems to be very interesting at first glance. It includes the translation of ancient writings other than the canonical "books", based on fairly recent discoveries.
And please, spare me the "it's not the Bible", "it's not God's word", "the church fathers knew what was authentic", etc. I want to know what you think of this well-researched book.
Has anyone read "The New New Testament"? I just bought a copy and it seems to be very interesting at first glance. It includes the translation of ancient writings other than the canonical "books", based on fairly recent discoveries.
And please, spare me the "it's not the Bible", "it's not God's word", "the church fathers knew what was authentic", etc. I want to know what you think of this well-researched book.
If this is the book by Hal Taussig, it is recommended by the thorough postmodernist, Marcus Borg. I wouldn't waste my time reading it as its focus would not be listening to the literal meaning of the text.
It's a subtle book that will draw you away from the Bible and the Savior.
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