Questioning the reformation?

[Jethro Bodine]

And all the points you make are verb points.
So the Reformation did not happen in the first century.

No, lol.
You're literally arguing with scripture. It did happen in the 1st century.
Hebrews 9:10 talks about the time of reform from the external regulations of the old covenant to the realities of the New. That same kind of time of reform occurred in the 15th century after the Catholic church mislead the masses back to the external regulations of works justification. And so another time of reform from works justification to faith justification had to occur. And it did, thank God.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

And all the points you make are verb points.
So the Reformation did not happen in the first century.

Time of reform is a NOUN. It's a thing. Lol.

 

[Paul Timothy]

No, lol.
You're literally arguing with scripture. It did happen in the 1st century.
Hebrews 9:10 talks about the time of reform from the external regulations of the old covenant to the realities of the New. That same kind of time of reform occurred in the 15th century after the Catholic church mislead the masses back to the external regulations of works justification. And so another time of reform from works justification to faith justification had to occur. And it did, thank God.

And that is not what I am talking about... please keep up.

 

[Paul Timothy]

Time of reform is a NOUN. It's a thing. Lol.

Time is a noun... but reform is a verb.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

And that is not what I am talking about... please keep up.

That's what I'M talking about because that's what the 15th century time of reform is all about. You're pushing a meaningless and useless argument about reformation because I explained to you that there really was a first century time of reform. The same time of reform that occurred in the 1st century happened again in the 15th century. A time of reform away from the falsehood of works justification to faith justification.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Time is a noun... but reform is a verb.

All you have to do is crack a dictionary open on line and you can see reform can be used as a noun. Sheesh! Why are you being so contentious? You're arguing against plain fact.

 

[Paul Timothy]

That's what I'M talking about because that's what the 15th century time of reform is all about. You're pushing a meaningless and useless argument about reformation because I explained to you that there really was a first century time of reform. The same time of reform that occurred in the 1st century happened again in the 15th century. A time of reform away from works justification to faith justification.

I'm not pushing anything.
You also are misrepresenting what you said.
That would be gaslighting.
Please go back to your post #6 and see that you brought up the Reformation (capitalized).
This is not a separate reformation or second reformation.
It was definitively not the same thing from the 1st to the 15 century.
I would think you have your points to make but you started talking about the 15th century Reformation and not the reforming of 1st century Christianity. (notice the capitalization)

 

[Paul Timothy]

All you have to do is crack a dictionary open on line and you can see reform can be used as a noun. Sheesh! Why are you being so contentious? You're arguing against plain fact.

Can be used as a noun is not the same as a noun.
Reform is to form again.
That is definitely a verb.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I'm not pushing anything.
You also are misrepresenting what you said.
That would be gaslighting.
Please go back to your post #6 and see that you brought up the Reformation (capitalized).
This is not a separate reformation or second reformation.
It was definitively not the same thing from the 1st to the 15 century.
I would think you have your points to make but you started talking about the 15th century Reformation and not the reforming of 1st century Christianity. (notice the capitalization)

I corrected you about a 1st century reform.
It is in fact BIBLICAL.
But as we know from history, it is not the only time that reform from old to New has occurred.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Can be used as a noun is not the same as a noun.
Reform is to form again.
That is definitely a verb.

Dude, just Google 'reform definition'.

 

[Paul Timothy]

I corrected you about a 1st century reform.
It is in fact BIBLICAL.
But as we know from history, it is not the only time that reform has occurred.

I am not arguing any of that... but you were talking about the Reformation not the reformation.

 

[Paul Timothy]

Dude, just Google 'reform definition'.

And I get verb.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I am not arguing any of that... but you were talking about the Reformation not the reformation.

Don't evade.
You challenged a 1st century reformation. I set you straight about it from the Bible.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

And I get verb.

Oh, good grief, Paul Timothy , lol!

Definition of REFORM

to put or change into an improved form or condition; to amend or improve by change of form or removal of faults or abuses; to put an end to (an evil) by enforcing or introducing a better method or course of action… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Perhaps now it's not a mystery to you why the Protestant Reformation was called a reformation. Now you know something you can share with others. The same reformation from works justification to faith justification that occurred in the 1st century happened again in the 15th century in regard to us being delivered from the works justification theology of the Catholic church and to the faith justification theology introduced in the 1st century.

 

[Paul Timothy]

Don't evade.
You challenged a 1st century reformation. I set you straight about it from the Bible.

I never challenged a 1st century reformation.
You made your point but I was not in opposition to your point.
So your straw man falls. Enjoy victory against a ghost of your own making.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

I never challenged a 1st century reformation.
You made your point but I was not in opposition to your point.
So your straw man falls. Enjoy victory against a ghost of your own making.

Keep pushing that rock uphill, lol.

 

[Paul Timothy]

Oh, good grief, Paul Timothy , lol!

Definition of REFORM

to put or change into an improved form or condition; to amend or improve by change of form or removal of faults or abuses; to put an end to (an evil) by enforcing or introducing a better method or course of action… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I read that as a verb.
But I don't see why you are arguing this.
We were talking about Reformation not reform.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

The Reformtion did not happen in the first century.

 

[Paul Timothy]

Keep pushing that rock uphill, lol.

Every day.