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One is the beast out of the sea that gives its power to the beast out of the earth Rev 13.
I agree with this, but also to know the deeper meaning of who mystery Babylon (revived Roman Empire) is as the beast (Satan) and the harlot (those who partake of the beast as they ride on the back of this beast is all a part of this Luciferian system that controls world wide economics, political, military, educational, environmental and is a false religious system.
The Babylonian pagan system could have a false front of any kind, including a Christian one. Jesus warned that many false prophets will rise and deceive many in His name, and THE false prophet in Rev. 13 is described as a lamb but he speaks like the dragon, that means looking like Christ but speaking like the devil.
In the historic view, the seven heads were seven different phases of the Rome, beginning with kings. They could not be other empires because they come under the fourth, Roman, Beast of Daniel seven. My previous pastor thought that they were Egypt etc, but he wasn't a true historcist, but believed in the seven parallel visions. He believed that Mystery Babylon is actual Babylon. I didn't hear him preach on Revelation as he was only at the church a short time after we moved here, but he did have all the notes of his sermons printed as booklets. Our present pastor believes in the seven parallel visions, but thinks Mystery Babylon is world governments.
Seven remaining nations that still exist today as you notice the countries in parenthesis.
I find that hard to believe. Of the seven kings, five have fallen, one was reigning at apostle John's time, one was to come, and the final one is "of the seven", which is the little horn, and based on chapter 13, he's still the seventh whose deadly wound is miraculously healed, and he's leading the ten kings, which are the ten horns in Daniel's vision and ten toes in king Nebuchadnezzar's vision. In apostle John's vision, though, the indescribable fourth beast is a mishmash of the three previous beasts (lion's head, leopard's body, bear's feet), so the seven heads being seven empires fit both the biblical text and historical record.
No. He is the eighth. He is of the seven but is the eighth.
The 4th indescribable beast is Rome, so the seven heads must all come under Rome.
This doesn’t match king Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, where there were at least three distinct phases of the Roman Empire - two iron legs, that’s the Byzantine empire and the papacy, also representing imperialism; two feet of iron and clay mixture, could be the Cold War era, new nations liberated from imperial control; and at last, the ten toes, the ten kings. You can’t just wrap all these complex history into one and label all of it as the papacy.
I didn't, the iron and clay of the 10 toes has never stuck together, there have been many attempts to unite Europe over the centuries, the latest being Hitler, then now the EU, but even that is not entirely united. Daniel 7 expands on Nebuchadnezzar's dream on the eighth king is of the 7, a revived Roman Empire.
And once again, you forgot that western Europe does NOT represent the whole wide world. Also, only the two feet are mixture of iron and clay, the two legs are iron only.
Do you think that when it gets more power it won't want to spread throughout the world? It has obtained by stealth practically everything that Hitler got by war. The great mistake the Axis powers made was that Japan attacked America instead of the USSR. Then probably the UK Wouldham fallen and the USA would have been next.
There may be some kind of a global cabal like illuminati behind the scene, but that's not the papacy. I don't see any power that the Vatican has in Asia from the middle east to the far east.
Wherever the papacy has members it has power
Note that you posted: "behind the scene"....
Every war and conflict stirred up, initiated, propagated , in order to gain power - taking both sides to end up on the winning side, encouraging strife and dissension no matter where or who....
Then that might be the WEF, world economic forums, not the pope. The Antichrist will only be revealed at the end when the church "falls away", 2 Thess. 2:3. The Antichrist is called the "son of perdition", and there's only one man who's ever been called that title, which is none other than Judas. When Judas led the soldiers to the garden, the disciples all fled, and that was when Judas was revealed as the traitor. The great tribulation will be very similar to that situation, where the whole church is in a deep spiritual slumber, and the traitor among us rats us out to the authority.
You've really overestimated the papacy's power and influence. Lately I've learnt some history of the tumultuous Stuart period over the 17th century, the Reformation was first and foremost a political movement, the main conflict of the civil wars in that period was about politics, Protestants were like nationalists, Catholics were kind of like globalists, they both used religion to form their own identities and fight for political power, any theology difference was just a facade. The key objective of the Protestant elites was to secede from Rome and take control over the church in England. Initially king Henry VIII wanted to divorce Katherine of Aragon who failed to produce a male heir to secure the throne, pope didn't allow it, that pissed off the king, and the religous elites who were already sick and tired of the papacy took that as a golden opportunity to formally severe the tie with Rome, and Henry VIII became the pope of his own country, and this permanently changed the course of British history and the world history. Just to be clear, I'm not defending the papacy, but this whole narrative of the papacy being the Antichrist is more or less a Protestant political propaganda against the Catholic factions, that's when and where it was originated. By no means did that make the Protestant faction closer to God or holier than the Catholics.
Babylon the great(the whore) is the global Empire of false religion. I agree that the RCC is included in the global Empire of false religion. But I also believe the protestant religions are part of Babylon the great as well.
Yeah, Pastor Brandon said the RCC, Eastern Orthodox and Protestant are the three measures of meal, and all three are leavened. Protestant church is associated with the dead church of Sardis, it had a great name, but it was spiritually dead.