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Repentance Vs. Eternal Security

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Hebrews 5:8-10
King James Version (KJV)
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
i never said the word eternal security was there i said we can be secure in our salvation but i did just show you scripture

1 John 2:25
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
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Hi Ezra,

None of these passages say one cannot be lost. Yes, God is able to preserve, however, will He preserve the one who disobeys Him? You quoted Heb 5:9 which speaks of those who obey Him. 1 John2:25, He has promised life to those who believe (trust) what if one decides to no longer believe (trust)?
 
"Able" does not mean a certain, unconditional guarantee

Do you mean that God might not be able, or might not be willing?

If God is only 'able' to save those who have obeyed, then once a person has obeyed the gospel (by believing in their heart) how can they then not be saved?

Heb 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

The writer to the Hebrews says that He is able to save them to the uttermost (full ended, entire completion) those that 'come to Him' because He ever lives to make intercession for them that come to Him.

Surely this means in this life, for would we need intercession when we are physically dead?

If He is able, then the only doubt could be His willingness or unwillingness to intercede.
But then it says "since He always lives to make intercession for them"
 
They can reject it by not abiding in Christ, by choosing sin over Christ.

What is abiding in Christ?
How do we abide in Christ?

If it were possible for someone who does abide in Christ to somehow not abide in Christ later, then where does it say that if someone does not abide in Christ that Christ will not abide in him?

What is the new man? Isn't it having the slate wiped clean and indwelling of the Spirit? I mean one is not physically a new man, one doesn't lose their desires, they don't immediately stop sinning, etc. A person is still the same person they were before, however, the sins have been forgiven, a clean slate.
It is no longer 'I' that lives, but Christ in me (new man)
It is Christ in you (new man) that is the hope of glory

If it is simply a clean slate, then everytime someone commits a sin, and then repents, are they a new man again and again etc..?

Unborn again? No, One can simply decide they'd rather have the things of the world. The term born again is really a term that relates to Israel. The Jews believed they would received the promises of God because they were Abraham's seed, his physical seed. Nicodemus thought because he was a Jew he was entitled to those promises. Jesus told him unless a man is born again he cannot see the kingdom of heaven. What he was telling Nicodemus was that his physical (flesh) birth from Abraham was not sufficient for him to gain those promises. The term born again only is only used a few times in Scripture and every time it is in reference to Jews.
Born again of imperishable seed

1Pe 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.

This seed we are born again by cannot sin because he is born of God

1Jn 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

There are several passages that address this issue.

8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.

10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

(Heb 3:8-14 KJV)
If someone does not hold the beginning of their confidence, then it was because they had an evil heart of unbelief. It says nothing of someone who had a believing heart, that later became hardened.

When God had brought the Israelites out of Egypt and into the wilderness, many did not believe God (trust in Him) Many said has God brought us out here to die? We would have been better back in Egypt.

They did not enter the promise land of His rest because of their unbelief. God kept them in the wilderness for forty years. Even Moses did not enter the promise land because of his disobedience.
Does that mean they were eternally lost?
 
Hi Ezra,

None of these passages say one cannot be lost. Yes, God is able to preserve, however, will He preserve the one who disobeys Him? You quoted Heb 5:9 which speaks of those who obey Him. 1 John2:25, He has promised life to those who believe (trust) what if one decides to no longer believe (trust)?
so earnest do you worry if you might lose your salvation?
 
Deborah13,

They've been given time and time again. Judas is one. Here's another.

11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;

12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.

14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.

15 For some are already turned aside after Satan. (1Ti 5:11-15 KJV)


1 Timothy 5:1-15

Amplified Bible (AMP)

8 If anyone fails to provide for his relatives, and especially for those of his own family, he has disowned the faith [by failing to accompany it with fruits] and is worse than an unbeliever [who performs his obligation in these matters
11 But refuse [to enroll on this list the] younger widows, for when they become restive and their natural desires grow strong, they withdraw themselves against Christ [and] wish to marry [again].

12 And so they incur condemnation for having set aside and slighted their previous pledge.

13 Moreover, as they go about from house to house, they learn to be idlers, and not only idlers, but gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not say and talking of things they should not mention.

14 So I would have younger [widows] marry, bear children, guide the household, [and] not give opponents of the faith occasion for slander or reproach.

15 For already some [widows] have turned aside after Satan.

Widows pledged service to the church in return for the church's support. She turn aside by gossiping, etc. (too much time on her hands, the devil will make work for idle hands). Therefore, condemnation, judgement but not.....
This scripture is in no way claiming a lose of salvation anymore than v8 is.

If this is what you think of our loving Father....
 
1 Timothy 5:1-15

Amplified Bible (AMP)

8 If anyone fails to provide for his relatives, and especially for those of his own family, he has disowned the faith [by failing to accompany it with fruits] and is worse than an unbeliever [who performs his obligation in these matters
11 But refuse [to enroll on this list the] younger widows, for when they become restive and their natural desires grow strong, they withdraw themselves against Christ [and] wish to marry [again].

12 And so they incur condemnation for having set aside and slighted their previous pledge.

13 Moreover, as they go about from house to house, they learn to be idlers, and not only idlers, but gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not say and talking of things they should not mention.

14 So I would have younger [widows] marry, bear children, guide the household, [and] not give opponents of the faith occasion for slander or reproach.

15 For already some [widows] have turned aside after Satan.

Widows pledged service to the church in return for the church's support. She turn aside by gossiping, etc. (too much time on her hands, the devil will make work for idle hands). Therefore, condemnation, judgement but not.....
This scripture is in no way claiming a lose of salvation anymore than v8 is.

If this is what you think of our loving Father....

We see this idea of women making a pledge to service the church and to Christ in the Catholic nuns. They service and the church provides for them. It is a serious commitment and Paul recognized the likely outcome of a change of mind in woman so young.
 
What is abiding in Christ?
How do we abide in Christ?

If it were possible for someone who does abide in Christ to somehow not abide in Christ later, then where does it say that if someone does not abide in Christ that Christ will not abide in him?

It is no longer 'I' that lives, but Christ in me (new man)
It is Christ in you (new man) that is the hope of glory

If it is simply a clean slate, then everytime someone commits a sin, and then repents, are they a new man again and again etc..?

Born again of imperishable seed

1Pe 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.

This seed we are born again by cannot sin because he is born of God

1Jn 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

If someone does not hold the beginning of their confidence, then it was because they had an evil heart of unbelief. It says nothing of someone who had a believing heart, that later became hardened.

When God had brought the Israelites out of Egypt and into the wilderness, many did not believe God (trust in Him) Many said has God brought us out here to die? We would have been better back in Egypt.

They did not enter the promise land of His rest because of their unbelief. God kept them in the wilderness for forty years. Even Moses did not enter the promise land because of his disobedience.
Does that mean they were eternally lost?

Well we know for sure that Moses wasn't lost. Didn't he appear with Jesus at the transfiguration Moses representing the law, Elijah the prophets, and Jesus.
 
What is abiding in Christ?
How do we abide in Christ?

KJV John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. (Joh 15:1-7 KJV)


If it were possible for someone who does abide in Christ to somehow not abide in Christ later, then where does it say that if someone does not abide in Christ that Christ will not abide in him?

See the above passage. There's also a Paul's words to Timothy.

11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

(2Ti 2:11-13 KJV)

It is no longer 'I' that lives, but Christ in me (new man)
It is Christ in you (new man) that is the hope of glory

Paul doesn't say anything about Christ in you when speaking of the new man. What he does do is connect it to the putting of sin. It seems you're imposing that idea on the text.

9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: (Col 3:9-10 KJV)

Paul uses the word new, in the sense of the existing man being renewed. It is the same man he is simply renewed. Notice Paul said he is renewed in knowledge. He's not changed into someone different.

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. (Rom 6:6-7 KJV)

Here again Paul connects the old and new man with sin and it's removal.


If it is simply a clean slate, then everytime someone commits a sin, and then repents, are they a new man again and again etc..?

Paul's use of the new man is the change from the old man, putting off sins. I believe he's talking about a fundamental change in a man's outlook toward sin.


Born again of imperishable seed

1Pe 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but
imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.

Yes, this passage is addressed to Jews.

This seed we are born again by cannot sin because he is born of God

1Jn 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in
him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Born again, indicates a second birth. Born of God does not necessitate a second birth but can be a first birth also.

If someone does not hold the beginning of their confidence, then it was because they had an evil heart of unbelief. It says nothing of someone who had a
believing heart, that later became hardened.

It seems you're imposing you belief on this passage, say they didn't hold their confidence because they had an evil heart of unbelief. However, Paul said just the opposite.


6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; (Heb 3:6-14 KJV)

Only a believer and follower of God can depart from Him. An unbeliever who does not have God cannot depart from Him he doesn't have Him to begin with.


When God had brought the Israelites out of Egypt and into the wilderness, many did not believe God (trust in Him) Many said has God brought us out here to die? We would have been better back in Egypt.

Which proves the point I was making. The did trust God or they would have remained in Egypt. Their choosing to follow God into the wilderness shows they believed. However, when things didn't go the way they wanted they determined that it would have been better for them in Egypt and desired to return. This is God showing someone who have turned from Him and as such He let them die in the wilderness.

They did not enter the promise land of His rest because of their unbelief. God kept them in the wilderness for forty years. Even Moses did not enter the promise land because of his disobedience.
Does that mean they were eternally lost?
 
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1 Timothy 5:1-15

Amplified Bible (AMP)

8 If anyone fails to provide for his relatives, and especially for those of his own family, he has disowned the faith [by failing to accompany it with fruits] and is worse than an unbeliever [who performs his obligation in these matters
11 But refuse [to enroll on this list the] younger widows, for when they become restive and their natural desires grow strong, they withdraw themselves against Christ [and] wish to marry [again].

12 And so they incur condemnation for having set aside and slighted their previous pledge.

13 Moreover, as they go about from house to house, they learn to be idlers, and not only idlers, but gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not say and talking of things they should not mention.

14 So I would have younger [widows] marry, bear children, guide the household, [and] not give opponents of the faith occasion for slander or reproach.

15 For already some [widows] have turned aside after Satan.

Widows pledged service to the church in return for the church's support. She turn aside by gossiping, etc. (too much time on her hands, the devil will make work for idle hands). Therefore, condemnation, judgement but not.....
This scripture is in no way claiming a lose of salvation anymore than v8 is.

If this is what you think of our loving Father....

Simply denying what the passage says doesn't negate the passage. How many people do you think will be saved who have cast off Christ and turned aside after Satan?
 
so earnest do you worry if you might lose your salvation?

Do you understand the meaning of "fear God"? I think it would be wise if you worry about the possibility of losing your own salvation.


1 Peter 2:17 (KJV)
17. Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.



Why "Fear God" if there is no chance of losing your salvation Ezra?

 
Do you mean that God might not be able, or might not be willing?

If God is only 'able' to save those who have obeyed, then once a person has obeyed the gospel (by believing in their heart) how can they then not be saved?

Heb 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

The writer to the Hebrews says that He is able to save them to the uttermost (full ended, entire completion) those that 'come to Him' because He ever lives to make intercession for them that come to Him.

Surely this means in this life, for would we need intercession when we are physically dead?

If He is able, then the only doubt could be His willingness or unwillingness to intercede.
But then it says "since He always lives to make intercession for them"

God is able to save those whom He has promised to save.

Heb 6:18 says it is impossible for God to lie so any promise God has made to man God will keep.

Heb 5:9 "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;"

God promised to save those that obey Christ.

2 Thess 1:8 " In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: "

God has promised to have vengeance upon those that obey not.


If a Christian falls away, turns from the faith and becomes an disobedient, unrighteous person then God has promised to have vengeance upon him. ES has God breaking promises for God never promised to save those that obey not. So a Christian that steals his neighbors horse and refuses to repent God has promised to have vengeance upon him for not obeying by repenting.


Heb 7:25 "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."

God is able to save them that come to God by Christ, that is, God is able to save them that obey Christ per Heb 5:9. The verb 'come' in Heb 7:25 is present tense, middle deponent. The present tense shows that the coming to God must be a sustained, ongoing coming and not just a one time or occasional act. THe middle deponent shows the coming is an act, a choice made by the individual and is not irressistibly forced to come to God against his will. Since one of his own volition comes to God, one of his own choice can turn from God. Again God has promised NOT to save those that turn from Him and disobey Christ..."No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."


Eternal securists often over look in verses the present tense of verbs and the conditional "if" type statements concerning salvation.
 
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KJV John 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. (Joh 15:1-7 KJV)


If it were possible for someone who does abide in Christ to somehow not abide in Christ later, then where does it say that if someone does not abide in Christ that Christ will not abide in him?

Sorry Butch5, but I cannot do long posts, so I will try and break this up a bit

Does v6 say that if a man abide in me, and then does not abide in me, will be cast forth as a branch?

Men are as branches, and if that branch is in the Vine it will bare fruit of the Vine.

In the OT, Israel was as a vine, but Christ is the True Vine.

In Romans 11, Israel is also seen as the natural Olive tree by birth right. Paul says that some of the natural branches were broken off because of unbelief. The reason is that it is no longer by birth right, but by faith.


See the above passage. There's also a Paul's words to Timothy.

11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

(2Ti 2:11-13 KJV)

Have you died with Christ?
If so, then you shall live with Him 'true' or 'false'?

Are all the promises of God in Him, yes or no, or even a maybe, maybe not?
 
Paul doesn't say anything about Christ in you when speaking of the new man. What he does do is connect it to the putting of sin. It seems you're imposing that idea on the text.

9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: (Col 3:9-10 KJV)

Paul uses the word new, in the sense of the existing man being renewed. It is the same man he is simply renewed. Notice Paul said he is renewed in knowledge. He's not changed into someone different.

Paul does not say that the old man is renewed?
He says that the new man is renewed (voice: passive)

The new man renewed (voice: passive) in knowledge (recognition, acknowledgement) after the image of him that created him. This new man is created in the 'image' of Him (Christ) that created him (new man)

Eph 4:24 and that you put on the new man which was created in the likeness of God, in true righteousness and holiness.

Again Paul says that the 'new man' was created in the likeness of God, in true righteousness and holiness

Eph 2:10 For we are His handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

2Co 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. (Rom 6:6-7 KJV)

Here again Paul connects the old and new man with sin and it's removal.




Paul's use of the new man is the change from the old man, putting off sins. I believe he's talking about a fundamental change in a man's outlook toward sin.
 
Butch5;729251It seems you're imposing you belief on this passage said:
6[/SIZE] But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; (Heb 3:6-14 KJV)

Only a believer and follower of God can depart from Him. An unbeliever who does not have God cannot depart from Him he doesn't have Him to begin with.

A wicked heart is one that cannot trust in the grace of God because of unbelief.
If there is any among them that has a wicked heart of unbelief, then they will not remain with them.

There were many who came to Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God, and followed Him for a while, but then they departed.

Which proves the point I was making. The did trust God or they would have remained in Egypt. Their choosing to follow God into the wilderness shows they believed.
They saw an opportunity to get out of Egypt and away from their oppression. God had heard their cries and provided them a way. Surely they wanted out or they would not have cried out.

One of the first things they did was to make a golden calf to worship, so although they knew something of this God, it seems they would have believed in many gods.


However, when things didn't go the way they wanted they determined that it would have been better for them in Egypt and desired to return. This is God showing someone who have turned from Him and as such He let them die in the wilderness.

They did not enter the promise land of His rest because of their unbelief. God kept them in the wilderness for forty years. Even Moses did not enter the promise land because of his disobedience.
Does that mean they were eternally lost?
 
Sorry Butch5, but I cannot do long posts, so I will try and break this up a bit

Does v6 say that if a man abide in me, and then does not abide in me, will be cast forth as a branch?

Men are as branches, and if that branch is in the Vine it will bare fruit of the Vine.

In the OT, Israel was as a vine, but Christ is the True Vine.

In Romans 11, Israel is also seen as the natural Olive tree by birth right. Paul says that some of the natural branches were broken off because of unbelief. The reason is that it is no longer by birth right, but by faith.

The Greek word translated, abide, means, to remain. Jesus said, if a man remains not in me he is cast forth.




Have you died with Christ?
If so, then you shall live with Him 'true' or 'false'?

Provided one abides in Him.

Are all the promises of God in Him, yes or no, or even a maybe, maybe not?

That's got to be kept in context
 
A wicked heart is one that cannot trust in the grace of God because of unbelief.
If there is any among them that has a wicked heart of unbelief, then they will not remain with them.

There were many who came to Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God, and followed Him for a while, but then they departed.

They already believed when Paul was telling them not to be found with an evil heart of unbelief.


I agree, some departed. That shows that one can turn from Christ.

They saw an opportunity to get out of Egypt and away from their oppression. God had heard their cries and provided them a way. Surely they wanted out or they would not have cried out.

One of the first things they did was to make a golden calf to worship, so although they knew something of this God, it seems they would have believed in many gods.

But the point is that they followed Him and later desired to return to Egypt.
 
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The Greek word translated, abide, means, to remain. Jesus said, if a man remains not in me he is cast forth.






Provided one abides in Him.



That's got to be kept in context

1Jn 4:13 By this we know that we abide (remain) in Him and He (remains) in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.
1Jn 4:14 We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.
1Jn 4:15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides (remains) in him, and he (remains) in God.



Has God given you His Spirit?
Have you believed in your heart and confessed that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?


If so, then God remains in you, and you remain in Him.
 
They already believed when Paul was telling them not to be found with an evil heart of unbelief.


I agree, some departed. That shows that one can turn from Christ.

1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.
1Jn 2:20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you all know.


They saw an opportunity to get out of Egypt and away from their oppression. God had heard their cries and provided them a way. Surely they wanted out or they would not have cried out.

One of the first things they did was to make a golden calf to worship, so although they knew something of this God, it seems they would have believed in many gods.
But the point is that they followed Him and later desired to return to Egypt.

The point is that they did not believe and trust.
 
1Jn 4:13 By this we know that we abide (remain) in Him and He (remains) in us, because He has given us of His Spirit.
1Jn 4:14 We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.
1Jn 4:15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides (remains) in him, and he (remains) in God.



Has God given you His Spirit?
Have you believed in your heart and confessed that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?


If so, then God remains in you, and you remain in Him.


In that verse John is speaking in the present tense. It's not giving a statement about the future. If I said I am remaining in my home, it means I am remaining there now. It says nothing of what I will do tomorrow. Likewise John is saying the one who is remaining now has Christ remaining in him.
 
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