SALVATION

[glorydaz]

John 5:24"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
True faith is believing Jesus can do this.

Also, you are making a HUGE presumption that you seem unaware of...

Jesus speaks conditionally. He that HEARS - CONTINUES to hear it - and BELIEVES - CONTINUES to believe - shall not come into condemnation. Paul says those in Christ NOW are not in condemnation.

You make a HUGE presumption if you think Jesus will lose any the Father has given Him.

I'll put my trust in the will of our great God, rather than the ramblings of any man.

And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

 

[glorydaz]

Re: Do Works Really Save You ... ???

Those who are born again have their names written in the book of life.

And those who return to a life of sin have their names removed from the book of life...


Are you going to suggest to me that you have victory over sin while you are enslaved to it, fallen away and living a life of perdition??? :crazy

Are you suggesting this is a lie?

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Are you not yet dead to sin?
It's a matter of faith....do you have little faith or great faith?
Those who have been born again are new creatures, no longer slaves to sin, but raised into newness of life. Some are still being crucified....they haven't yet been raised into newness of life.

I BELIEVE what the Word tells me...
That's what's known as really "believing"...not just giving lip-service.

I've been freed from the power of sin...it has no more dominion over me.

How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7For he that is dead is freed from sin.

[quote:3uqgr7hh]14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

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[glorydaz]

Is Paul the author and finisher of your faith?
Paul may not describe it to your satisfaction, but I understand what he's saying quite clearly.
The "books" were opened and all were judged out of them according to their works.
This is not speaking of those written in the Lamb's book. That is a separate book.
We have an advocate with the Father...We do not come under judgment...at all.

Wrong answer.

Scriptures clearly speak of ALL men being judged - ascertained to their worthiness of damnation or eternal heaven. You are confusing "judgment" when the Scriptures speak of wrath.

Judgment refers to wrath, also, not just a determination of innocence or guilt. In context, judgment = wrath, those in Christ will NOT suffer. Judgment = decision of worth, ALL will undergo that...

We again refer you to Romans 2 to declare your theology false. To "rewards only" judgment...

revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish. Romans 2:5-8

Or

Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye {wicked} did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal Mat 25:45-46



Note. EVERY man will be weighed on the basis of THEIR DEEDS. You are either a goat or a sheep. Depending upon what you did... nothing about lesser rewards...

Everyone will be weighed and judged. Including you. Not Jesus' deeds. YOURS (in Christ or while not in Christ). No exceptions were made, since God is NOT a respecter of men (according to Paul). Even you will be weighed on the balance of God.

Now, there are two outcomes. Either eternal glory OR eternal death. No statement about lesser rewards. Jesus states the same thing. Either enter the banquet, or sit outside with the wailing and gnashing of teeth...

No rewards for those sitting outside...

Jesus will have never known such people...

Nope, you're wrong. You don't understand judgment or wrath.

God's wrath comes only on the children of disobedience...not those written in the Lamb's book of life.
The child of God does not come under condemnation.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Jesus took our condemnation upon the cross.

And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

We have been justified before God.

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

We're born again of the Spirit...written in the Lamb's book...not the other books.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[Panin]

Faith and Works

The Letter of James in the Bible is used by many enemies of the Gospel as the primary proof-text to show that receiving the free gift of eternal life is not by faith apart from works, but by faith plus works. This doctrine of faith plus works in order to gain entrance to Heaven is a fundamental doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church. In fact, its Council of Trent in the 16th century produced a document that pronounces “anathema“ or a curse on anyone who says that receiving eternal salvation is by grace through faith in Christ apart from works. To this day, the Roman Catholic Church upholds and affirms this same curse on all those such as myself who teach that our works have no part in becoming eternally saved. However, many Protestant and some non-denominational churches also teach a works salvation as well. Even the major world religions that don't claim Christ as Savior have their own works-based systems that mankind is to adhere to in order to make it to Heaven, Nirvana, Paradise, cessation of reincarnation, or some other goal that they teach.

While on the surface the idea of requiring works in addition to faith may sound noble, in essence it disqualifies faith. Here's why: We receive eternal salvation by placing our faith (our trust, our confidence) in Christ Jesus. To say that we must add works is to say that Christ’s death on the cross and resurrection is insufficient to secure our salvation, and what we really mean then, is that we lack the confidence that He alone can eternally save us. This lack of confidence in Christ is the opposite of placing faith in Him.

Either He paid the full price for our sins on the cross or He didn't. To say that we must add works in order to be redeemed, is to say that He didn't pay the full price. And to say this, is to deny His saving power and remain lost.

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Man-made “Christian†religions that glorify man instead of God all without exception twist the Letter of James to prove they are teaching truth, when in fact their doctrine is a lie and a counterfeit gospel which cannot secure eternal salvation for anyone. For a person to have always trusted in a counterfeit gospel, regardless of what church they may be a member of, means they have never relied solely on Christ for the forgiveness of sins and the free gift of eternal life. In other words, they have never experienced being born of the Spirit of God, and if they die in this condition they will spend eternity lost without hope.

This is why it is important for those of us who know and believe the truth to contend for and defend the Gospel, for what is at stake is the eternal destiny of precious human beings that God loved enough to send His one unique Son to die on the cross for. Am I saying that all Roman Catholics are hell-bound? Certainly not, for there are some who have in spite of their church’s doctrine trusted solely in Christ alone for salvation.

Then they said to Him, 'What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?' Jesus answered and said to them, ‘This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.’†(John 6:28,29)

“Jesus answered and said to him, ‘Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.’†(John 3:3)

The new birth is neither water baptism, nor is it accomplished through the act of water baptism. It is a spiritual rebirth from above, without which no one will enter the Kingdom of God.

Dear reader, if you have not been born again, it is your highest priority to make sure that you are! There is coming a time when it will be too late.

Only those whom Christ knows as His own can access the power of God to do true works of righteousness, for only they have the Holy Spirit within them. Therefore, those in Matthew 7:21-23 that were never known by Jesus as His own could not show that their deeds were true works of righteousness, for they had never become a child of God via the new birth.

This is where most people are at in this world. Most find it difficult to reach the point where they are able to admit they can do nothing to save themselves and only look to the cross of Christ and ask God for mercy. Such is the place of humility where one needs to be in order to express childlike faith. Jesus said:

“Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means entr it.†(Luke 18:17)

 

[Drew]

I understand faith quite well, and I understand the difference between believing in Jesus and believing Jesus. I believe what He said. Not everyone who claims Him will be claimed by Him. I don't believe, for a minute, that those who say they're His, but continue to walk in sin are born again...no matter what they claim. One who is born again is a new creature. Plain and simple. If they don't have a circumcised heart they are not the Lord's

Well if you believe this, you should have no trouble taking Paul seriously when he says that eternal life will be given based on eternal life as per Romans 2.

I do not have the time to respond to some of your recent posts, but I am confident of this: No competent writer would write this statement:

God "will give to each person according to what he has done."7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

...and believe that zero persons will get life in this way. Paul nowhere - repeat nowhere - in Romans gives the reader any reason to believe that this is about a judgement for the unregenerate only and that zero of them will get eternal life at such a judgement.

I will look into the bit from Rev about the two books. If you turn out to be right, we have a huge problem - Paul disagreeing with the author of Revelation. You see, you cannot simply say that what somebody wrote in one book (e.g. Revelation) "trumps" what somebody else wrote in another (Romans).

Paul's statement is clear, unambiguous, and not qualified by invisible constraints - eternal life goes to those who do good.

 

[Drew]

Paul may not describe it to your satisfaction, but I understand what he's saying quite clearly.
The "books" were opened and all were judged out of them according to their works.
This is not speaking of those written in the Lamb's book. That is a separate book.

I have no idea how you draw the conclusion that you draw. Here is the text from Rev 20:

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Again, you insert an unstated qualification - as you do in Romans 2. It says that the dead were judged according to what they had done. Does it say that some (i.e. believers) were excused from that judgement?

No, it does not say this, although you appear to think that it does. There is no evidence at all from this passage that those who are in "the book of life" did not get there in virtue of the works they have done.

If anything, this text affirms what Paulwrites in Romans 2 - eternal kife is granted based on good works.

By the way, am I to take it that you simply refuse to engage my argument about Ephesians 2. Let's be clear - to refuse to engage it sends the clear message that you cannot find an error in it.

 

[Drew]

Follow on: gd, you seem to simply assume that because the "works" are recorded in the first set of books, that the second book - the book of life can have no connection to works at all.

That makes no sense. Suppose I am at a graduation ceremony for a university. "Books" are opened and all students are judged by their grades. And then the "book of graduates" is opened. It could easily be the case that the names in the "book of graduates" are simply those who have good enough grades to graduate.

Back to the actual text - you seem to assume that those in the book of life cannot be the ones who got a good result when judged according to their works.

 

[Drew]

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

There is no judgement for the elect...only rewards.

Where does it say this? You simply assume without apparent justification that those who are in the book of life are not there because of the works that the Spirit has manifested in their lives.

 

[Drew]

Paul’s argument of 2 Corinthians 5:1-10 shows that Paul sees the “redeemed†indeed standing judgement at the end of their lives with eternal life at issue.

Consider the first five verses. Repeatedly Paul makes statements about a "we" who get certain things. And it is clear that Paul is talking about the conferral of eternal life with God. So the “we†that he is talking about must be believers – since presumably we all agree that only believers will get eternal life with God.

1Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, 3because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

Paul's long list is about things that the redeemed will get and the lost will not.

And yet some will argue that believers are not part of the “we†that will stand judgement as per the following:

10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

Such people argue that verse 10 describes a works-based judgement that believers will not be subject to.

It is simply not plausible that Paul would be excluding believers from the “we†in this text. How does it makes sense for Paul to give a glorious list of all the things that the elect and the elect only receive, conclude with a statement about a certain “we†getting in accordance with what was done in the body, all the while intending the reader to understand that, in verse 10, he is talking both about an entirely different group and an entirely different set of things that group will receive (since only believers will get the things mentioned in verse 1 through 5)?

In fact, all of the first nine verses deal with a “we†that can only be seen as denoting believers. And the first five verses focus on the specific reward of eternal life. So how is it possible for verse 10 to refer to a “we†that excludes believers? Or how is it possible that Paul has spent 5 verses dwelling on the reward of eternal life with God and then excludes this reward from the rewards that will given as per verse 10?

Verse 9 makes it even more clear that believers will indeed be subject to the “good works†judgement of verse 10:

So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad

1. In verse 9 Paul exhorts believers to please God while in the body;

2. Paul says that there is a "we" who will be judged according to what is done "in the body";

3. Therefore, Paul must intend us to understand that the redeemed will be judged according to things done in the body. No competent writer would exhort believers to please God while we are "in the body" and then immediately make a "because" or "for" statement of the form "for we will receive according to what is done in the body", without intending the reader to think that the redeemed, the very ones who are exhorted to live well in the body, will come under this judgement.

 

[glorydaz]

Well if you believe this, you should have no trouble taking Paul seriously when he says that eternal life will be given based on eternal life as per Romans 2.

I do not have the time to respond to some of your recent posts, but I am confident of this: No competent writer would write this statement:

God "will give to each person according to what he has done."7To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

...and believe that zero persons will get life in this way. Paul nowhere - repeat nowhere - in Romans gives the reader any reason to believe that this is about a judgement for the unregenerate only and that zero of them will get eternal life at such a judgement.

I will look into the bit from Rev about the two books. If you turn out to be right, we have a huge problem - Paul disagreeing with the author of Revelation. You see, you cannot simply say that what somebody wrote in one book (e.g. Revelation) "trumps" what somebody else wrote in another (Romans).

Paul's statement is clear, unambiguous, and not qualified by invisible constraints - eternal life goes to those who do good.

I agree, it is clear and unambiguous, but it does not say He will give them eternal life.
The verse says they seek after eternal life...(they obtain it if their deeds are judged righteous.)

"Who will render to every man according to his deeds:"

We have two groups of people here.

These who do unrighteousness...their deeds are obvious.

"But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,"

These who by patient continuance in well doing..."continuance"....never faltering....

"To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:"

So what about when they lied, got angry, didn't love their neighbor?
What if they have a few secret sins hidden away in their hearts....bad deeds tucked in their portfolio?

Is that a continuance in well doing? The option is there...can they live up to it?
A perfect man, yes, but I know of only one of those.

Neither good deeds nor the law will cover their bad deeds...sin.
So they will all be found guilty under their own law.
Sin does not get covered by good deeds...if they sin under the law they perish.
Only the "doers" of the law are justified.

12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Their thoughts, the mean while, accusing or excusing one another (their sin).

14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

 

[glorydaz]

By the way, am I to take it that you simply refuse to engage my argument about Ephesians 2. Let's be clear - to refuse to engage it sends the clear message that you cannot find an error in it.

No, I will go back through this lengthy thread and find it....or you could pop it forward.
I've meant to search, but I have been too busy posting.
If I have to, I'll see if I can find it. geez.......

 

[glorydaz]

Follow on: gd, you seem to simply assume that because the "works" are recorded in the first set of books, that the second book - the book of life can have no connection to works at all.

That makes no sense. Suppose I am at a graduation ceremony for a university. "Books" are opened and all students are judged by their grades. And then the "book of graduates" is opened. It could easily be the case that the names in the "book of graduates" are simply those who have good enough grades to graduate.

Back to the actual text - you seem to assume that those in the book of life cannot be the ones who got a good result when judged according to their works.

Did you see any mention of grace or atonement in that portion?

The Lamb's book of Life is a book of rewards....we'll be "judged" on what use we made of the talents the Lord had given us. He already said none written in the book of life will be blotted out. The other books contain the names of those who do not have the atonement of the blood of Jesus Christ. They will be judged on their deeds...whether they be good or evil. Is a good goat good enough to enter into the kingdom of God? Are their good deeds enough to save them...to cover their sins?

 

[Drew]

I agree, it is clear and unambiguous, but it does not say He will give them eternal life.
The verse says they seek after eternal life...(they obtain it if their deeds are judged righteous.)

You are making my point for me. As you yourself say, he is saying that they obtain eternal life if their deeds are judged righteous. For some reason, you insert unstated qualifiers and think that this only applies to the unregnerate. You simply cannot do that without a justification. And you have given none so far.

Besides, no competent writer would talk about people getting eternal life based on works if he believed zero persons will get it that way.

 

[Drew]

Did you see any mention of grace or atonement in that portion?

The Lamb's book of Life is a book of rewards....we'll be "judged" on what use we made of the talents the Lord had given us. He already said none written in the book of life will be blotted out. The other books contain the names of those who do not have the atonement of the blood of Jesus Christ.

First point: The fact that names in the book of life will not be blotted out does not necessarily mean that they did not get there by virtue of doing good. Nothing in this or any other text shows that good works are not a necessary condition for being in the book of life;

Second point: The text nowhere, repeat nowhere says that the names in the other books do include some of the same names that are in the book of life - you are reading that in.

There is nothing in the Revelation 20 passage that challenges the view that those in the book of life are those with "good deeds". You are reading all sorts of extra things into the text.

 

[glorydaz]

I agree, it is clear and unambiguous, but it does not say He will give them eternal life.
The verse says they seek after eternal life...(they obtain it if their deeds are judged righteous.)

You are making my point for me. As you yourself say, he is saying that they obtain eternal life if their deeds are judged righteous. For some reason, you insert unstated qualifiers and think that this only applies to the unregnerate. You simply cannot do that without a justification. And you have given none so far.

Besides, no competent writer would talk about people getting eternal life based on works if he believed zero persons will get it that way.

It's hard to walk into the middle of a movie and make decisions about what's going on.
That's what you're doing with the book of Romans.
Have you ever looked at the Roman Road...it's a layout for the plan of salvation, and it's based on Paul's writings here in Romans. You're looking at the beginning of the plan. Paul is addressing basic principals of the road to salvation. The group he is talking about in this chapter is the beginning of the message. He making it clear that God looks at the heart and all your good works will be judged and found wanting without going on to repentance and sanctification. He's saying, Okay, you think you're doing such good deeds that you don't need to come to repentance. Fine...get judged on your deeds, then, and see how far it will get you. You're trying so hard to work your way into heaven that you'll miss the boat if you don't press on.......take the next step if you're to obtain that which you seek.

Paul is using the foolishness of preaching to win souls...it may not sound like competent writing to you but it's very effective for convicting people of their sins and their need to be saved.

 

[glorydaz]

I agree, it is clear and unambiguous, but it does not say He will give them eternal life.
The verse says they seek after eternal life...(they obtain it if their deeds are judged righteous.)

You are making my point for me. As you yourself say, he is saying that they obtain eternal life if their deeds are judged righteous. For some reason, you insert unstated qualifiers and think that this only applies to the unregnerate. You simply cannot do that without a justification. And you have given none so far.

Besides, no competent writer would talk about people getting eternal life based on works if he believed zero persons will get it that way.

They can't be judged righteous because they are under the law.
They can only be judged righteous if they press on and obtain salvation by faith...their works won't do it.

They'll be judged on their works and found wanting unless they press on through faith.
Paul just went through the Jews that are under the stone law and the gentiles who are under the natural law. He made it clear the people he was talking to were both under the law.
Otherwise, if they were heirs by the works they would make faith void.

14For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:

 

[glorydaz]

Faith and Works

While on the surface the idea of requiring works in addition to faith may sound noble, in essence it disqualifies faith. Here's why: We receive eternal salvation by placing our faith (our trust, our confidence) in Christ Jesus. To say that we must add works is to say that Christ’s death on the cross and resurrection is insufficient to secure our salvation, and what we really mean then, is that we lack the confidence that He alone can eternally save us. This lack of confidence in Christ is the opposite of placing faith in Him.

Either He paid the full price for our sins on the cross or He didn't. To say that we must add works in order to be redeemed, is to say that He didn't pay the full price. And to say this, is to deny His saving power and remain lost.

Great article... :amen

 

[Panin]

Justification by Faith
1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? 2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have you suffered so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain?

5 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

 

[glorydaz]

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

There is no judgement for the elect...only rewards.

Where does it say this? You simply assume without apparent justification that those who are in the book of life are not there because of the works that the Spirit has manifested in their lives.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

We're justified before God by our faith in the blood ....nothing to do with works...works of the flesh, works of the Spirit, no works...nothing we've done except to believe in what He's done for us on the cross.

8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

 

[glorydaz]

10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

Verse 9 makes it even more clear that believers will indeed be subject to the “good works†judgement of verse 10:

So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad

1. In verse 9 Paul exhorts believers to please God while in the body;

2. Paul says that there is a "we" who will be judged according to what is done "in the body";

3. Therefore, Paul must intend us to understand that the redeemed will be judged according to things done in the body. No competent writer would exhort believers to please God while we are "in the body" and then immediately make a "because" or "for" statement of the form "for we will receive according to what is done in the body", without intending the reader to think that the redeemed, the very ones who are exhorted to live well in the body, will come under this judgement.

Paul is talking about the ministry and false doctrine. That doctrine not built on Jesus is wood, hay, and stubble. This chapter is a great example of how we're a body working together for the saving of souls. One plants another waters and the Lord gets the credit. The field is His, the laborers are His and the fruit is His. We are faithful servants doing the work of the Lord. Not our work, but His.

Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Some preach a false message unknowingly...his work will be burned up, but he will still be saved.