I've been over this repeatedly. Look back on the preceding eight pages. Instead, you say something really stupid like, "you mean I don't have to go to work".
I think that was a comment made by wavy but any one of us COULD have said it. God knew that people would have to work to make a living. Let’s face it, kwag, no further explanation is even necessary. Humans require the weekly Sabbath not only for spiritual regeneration but also for physical, mental and emotional ‘well being’. God in His wisdom knew that. The very ones who argue against the Sabbath on this forum are also those who have no problem keeping Sunday as 'their day of rest.' And …it’s for this reason, if none other, that my logical brain tells me that this entire argument AGAINST the Sabbath is therefore silly.
SputnikBoy, you just love to argue.
No I don't!!! :smt091
You don't really care what the Bible says, unless you can use it to put someone down.
Oh absolutely. I spend my entire day scheming as to whom I can put down next!
You WILL see different personalities coming through on forums such as this, kwag, and it’s this that makes us the individuals we are. Some people ARE more argumentative than others, some people are more passive than others, some people ignore certain issues that don’t concern them while others really take the issues on board and run with them. Some consider a ‘battle’ worth fighting while others don’t see the point in doing so. It’s perhaps not a bad thing to see and recognize such a mix of personalities debating these kinds of issues. It makes life interesting. You may be right …perhaps I DO like to argue. Then again, since I just agreed with you, you may be wrong. ???? Hmmm …sounds like a Billy Joel song got mixed up in there.
Solo, you know these two as well as I. And if they don't understand about being born again, they really shouldn't belittle those of us who offer to explain it to them. There is no point continuing this discussion because they don't care what the truth is. They would rather live in the Old Testament.
While I am serious about certain ‘debatable’ scriptural issues and perhaps get a little passionate at times, kwag, I really do hope that I don’t put people down or belittle them in the process. That is not my intent. I don’t have a problem at taking a dig at myself at times and, likewise, I may take a light-hearted shot at someone else on occasion. The ‘little emotive face’ that accompanies any such comment is meant to convey that fact. Others have done similarly with me (poked fun) and I’ve chuckled along with them. While I may get a little testy if someone is repeatedly using scripture ‘immaturely’ merely to support a cherished doctrine, I rarely, if ever, get offended personally by posts that might be aimed negatively at me.
There is no point continuing this discussion because they don't care what the truth is. They would rather live in the Old Testament.
Of course we care what the truth is. This is why we bother to debate these issues. And, if you believe that ‘they’ choose to live in the Old Testament, why get your jocks in a jitter over that? No one is twisting your arm behind your back to do the same.
I've told you all what the Word says about the Sabbath, and you have chosen to reject it. Hebrews 10:26 I'm not wasting any more time on those who choose to rejecting Jesus as their Sabbath Rest.
But what YOU have told us about what the Word says about the Sabbath is not correct, kwag. Or, at least, not the way some of us see it. What are we to do with this ‘gospel according to kwag’ if we don’t agree with it? Shut up and go away in order to make you happy? You seem to be more offended by the fact that we haven’t listened to YOU than our not agreeing with the issue/s because they don’t appear to tally with the scriptures.
Some of us read and interpret (understand) the scriptures differently than you do, kwag. Believe it or not, you are not the ‘all-knowing guru’ to whom we have to kowtow. Nor are we for that matter. However, I personally have a problem with this incessant and obsessive reference to yourself as being ‘Spirit-filled’. The way I see it – rightly or wrongly – is that your concept of ‘Spirit-filled’ appears to be based on a state of mind that is akin to that of ‘hypnotism’ where one’s behavior is determined NOT by their own will but rather the will of another. Undoubtedly, you will respond without hesitation that this ‘other’ is GOD and that any further debate on the issue is therefore unnecessary.
I’m a firm believer that our mind remains our own (Christian or non-Christian) and that our choices and our decisions are therefore our own. In other words we are responsible for our own actions and responses. This is what I personally get from the Bible. God may well be in one’s heart – I don’t have a problem with that – but as for God acting as the ‘decision-maker’ for the individual, I DO have a problem with that. And, I don’t see this concept as being in any way scriptural.
Wasn’t this why God gave us all ‘free will’ to begin with …the reason why He didn’t create robots instead? “Your will be done because I choose to do Your will" is quite diferent from “Your will be done because I have no other option than to do Your will." Likewise, I may say, “Your Law is written in my heartâ€Â. But it’s my mind (the using of my will) that determines whether or not I remain obedient to that Law, whether it be written into my heart or not. Anything other than a concept of ‘freedom of choice’ for the individual is the equivalent of a robot, regardless of who is pushing the buttons.
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