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so who lives longer?

who lives longer between men and women?

  • men

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • women

    Votes: 6 85.7%
  • Total voters
    7
not all garbage truck are side loaders and or front loaders. I know a lot on garbage trucks. spent hours in them replacing the hoses as a helper and also maintenance. the city I work for still has them rear loaders.the recycle company has a side loader but its not the type that picks the containers up. it has one built into the arms and the driver loads each bin into the main can and then dumps it in the truck.
 
Rick W said:
You mean New Yorkers can buy a Big Gulp soda now?
:lol
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Sure. I remember there was a silly law regulating the size of soda drinks in New York to protect citizens from high caloric soft drinks.
But protecting people from themselves is not the goverment's job. You are free to risk your own health in any way you choose.
But there are a few things to consider. Like your own risky behaviour may under some circumstances be risky not only for yourself, but also for others. That's the part where it is the government's duty to protect others from you. And you should be making an informed choice. E.g., when buying big sodas you should be aware what living with obesity would be like and how hard it would be to get rid of the weight. If you still chose to drink huge portions of soda then that's your choice and you should be free to do that.
 
jasoncran said:
feeble and fragile. while im not saying that I could handle child birth.i know better. but feeble? and fragile?
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Not sure I could handle child birth. :lol If I ever find out I'll let you know.
But I guess if men could get pregnant and have babies they'd find themselves able to handle it somehow because they'd have to. Because that's why women can handle it: because they have to.
 
women...but I'm not sure why...lower suicide rates, fewer murders, maybe fewer heart attacks (?), but...I dunno...

...I think there's a biological component. Doesn't estrogen=protective effect or something?
 
It's not government's job to protect people from themselves but it's the government's job to protect others from other people.

:confused

Oh we'll. we'd best stay on topic :lol
 
I've heard it said that, at least when speaking of married couples, the men usually die first.....because they want to. :lol
 
Biological clue to why women live longer than men
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22528388

Women live longer than men partly because their immune systems age more slowly, a study suggests.

As the body's defences weaken over time, men's increased susceptibility to disease shortens their lifespans, say Japanese scientists.

Tests of immune function could give an indication of true biological age, they report in Immunity & Ageing journal.

The immune system protects the body from infection and cancer, but causes disease when not properly regulated.

The Japanese study set out to investigate the controversial question of whether age-related changes in the immune system could be responsible for the difference in average life expectancy between men and women.

Prof Katsuiku Hirokawa of the Tokyo Medical and Dental University and colleagues analysed blood samples from 356 healthy men and women aged between 20 and 90.

They measured levels of white blood cells and molecules called cytokines which interact with cells of the immune system to regulate the body's response to disease.



It's likely that the slower ageing in the immune system of women reflects a generally slower rate of intrinsic ageing, rather than that the immune system itself is setting the pace”

Prof Tom Kirkwood University of Newcastle upon Tyne
In both sexes, the number of white blood cells per person declined with age as expected from previous studies.

However, closer examination revealed differences between men and women in two key components of the immune system - T-cells, which protect the body from infection, and B-cells, which secrete antibodies.

The rate of decline of most T-cell and B-cell lymphocytes was faster in men, while men also showed a more rapid age-related decline in two cytokines.

Two specific types of immune system cell that attack invaders - CD4 T-cells and natural killer cells - increased in number with age, with a higher rate of increase in women than in men.

The researchers believe a person's immunological parameters could provide an indication of their true biological age.

"Age-related changes in various immunological parameters differ between men and women," Prof Hirokawa and colleagues report in the online journal Immunity & Ageing.

"Our findings indicate that the slower rate of decline in these immunological parameters in women than that in men is consistent with the fact that women live longer than do men."


Life expectancy
  • Life expectancy in the UK is 79 years for men and 82 for women
  • In Japan, the gap is wider, with women living to 85.5 on average
  • Source: World Health Organization
Commenting on the study, Prof Tom Kirkwood of the Institute of Ageing and Health at the University of Newcastle upon Tyne, said the findings, while valuable, were not fundamentally surprising.

"It's likely that the slower ageing in the immune system of women reflects a generally slower rate of intrinsic ageing, rather than that the immune system itself is setting the pace," he told BBC News.

Dr Donald Palmer, senior lecturer in immunology at the Royal Veterinary College, said studies in mice had shown similar results.
 
Women live longer than men as a general rule. Married people live longer than singles statistically. I do want to live longer, so I best run out and get myself married...Waitaminute...Is there a paradox in there somewhere?

:lol
 
Edward said:
Women live longer than men as a general rule. Married people live longer than singles statistically. I do want to live longer, so I best run out and get myself married...Waitaminute...Is there a paradox in there somewhere?

:lol
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Feeding statistical bureaucracy becomes an end in itself...

Government bureaucrats and researchers deciding what they want to conclude in such a way that they can justify expensive studies which prove what they want to prove...
 
farouk said:
Feeding statistical bureaucracy becomes an end in itself...

Government bureaucrats and researchers deciding what they want to conclude in such a way that they can justify expensive studies which prove what they want to prove...
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That may be true, however, It is true though scientifically. married people live longer than single people. The reason is twofold. One is that approximately 20% of the bacteria in your saliva is unique to you. When exchanged in kissing, it helps to build the immune system. Both men's and women's bodies make certain substances which the other gender can not make themselves. It is passed back and forth two ways, through the saliva when kissing, and inhaled. When men and women sleep together they usually cuddle close and as the gender specific substances are secreted through the pores of the skin, they are inhaled by the spouse. They build up the immune system also and...I forget what else, support life, lol. The other reason is the hugging. When a man and a women hug or come close together for a kiss or whatever, the is a (spiritual) transfer of energy from one spirit to the other. You know this, when you hug your wife, it feels good. That's what it is and is a very real happening and transfer of energy.

(The gubmint doesn't support marriage anyway brother. They've had it as their mission to destroy marital union for many many years now!)
 
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Edward said:
That may be true, however, It is true though scientifically. married people live longer than single people. The reason is twofold. One is that approximately 20% of the bacteria in your saliva is unique to you. When exchanged in kissing, it helps to build the immune system. Both men's and women's bodies make certain substances which the other gender can not make themselves. It is passed back and forth two ways, through the saliva when kissing, and inhaled. When men and women sleep together they usually cuddle close and as the gender specific substances are secreted through the pores of the skin, they are inhaled by the spouse. They build up the immune system also and...I forget what else, support life, lol. The other reason is the hugging. When a man and a women hug or come close together for a kiss or whatever, the is a (spiritual) transfer of energy from one spirit to the other. You know this, when you hug your wife, it feels good. That's what it is and is a very real happening and transfer of energy.

(The gubmint doesn't support marriage anyway brother. They've had it as their mission to destroy marital union for many many years now!)
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Oh so intimacy is the thing that makes a woman live longer?I'd rather give myself a manicure with a chainsaw..... :approve
 
Not really. I was just keeping to the topic of the thread and said that because it was relevant and has been scientifically established. I like intimacy as much as the next man, but the reality is that it goes much much deeper than sex. The love bond is a powerful thing. In the early days with my (ex) wife, we had a bond so strong that we could almost communicate telepathically and know what the other was thinking without saying a word. Sex is the tip of the iceberg, not the zenith of a loving relationship. I don't think many realize this.
 
Edward said:
Not really. I was just keeping to the topic of the thread and said that because it was relevant and has been scientifically established. I like intimacy as much as the next man, but the reality is that it goes much much deeper than sex. The love bond is a powerful thing. In the early days with my (ex) wife, we had a bond so strong that we could almost communicate telepathically and know what the other was thinking without saying a word. Sex is the tip of the iceberg, not the zenith of a loving relationship. I don't think many realize this.
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Hmmmm....you said ex wife?
 
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