Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them

[Rookie]

Your problem is that you have to SEE before you believe. If you'd believe first ... then Jesus will show you things you never would have imagined !

I never said i didn't believe in spiritual gifts, I do, I reject cessation as I believe is based on lack of faith. But like Paul Washer, I believe they exist, just have still yet to see them and believe 100% it's true. And the false ones faking it aren't helping.

Mike claims that TOUCH NOT MY ANOINTED .... means nothing more than ... quote : " David is not going to murder Saul ... that's what it means ... SO THE SIMPLE APPLICATION ( of this warning/scripture ) ... is I will not murder other people because I have problems with them " ABSOLUTE HOG WASH ! That's a lame brained explanation and could lead many others to touch people ... they really don't know if they are anointed and may be screwing up ! Again, God ( not man ) uses the Hebrew word ANOINTED TWO times in the ORIGINAL Hebrew It is the the exact same word MESSIAH is translated from. So do you think there is a DEEPER meaning. ? Look it up ( 1 Sam. 26.11 ) https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1sa/26/11/t_conc_262011

How does that tie into gifts? There are other Scriptures protecting believers from being touched so it's not quite "lame brained explanation and could lead many others to touch people..."

And people aren't anointed because they say they are, they are chosen. All Christ children are anointed, but not all of them walk in that anointing.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

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I believe magic exists and is a cute name to replace the more biblical and real term called: witchcraft, divination, sorcery, secret arts.

I have been in churches were I was really convinced that it is a bible-believing/following church, just their understanding of gifts idk (which I don't believe is fundamentental) why don't believe never have no interpretor?

Where is that right place, my main concern is there are no interpretors for tongues and no one has shown me an example still. It's like the easier it is to fake the more popular it is, with tongues on top (I do have a unfirmented opinion about what true tongues sound like and have heard when people who speak it like that and believe it probably is true tongues but there is still no interpretor) but ppl can saw whatever they want and call it tongues these days. (Of course it's easier to weed them out because of the church morality). Then healings at second which is a little harder to fake but still doable, then prophecy which is either true, a gamble, or a set up, then the rest I don't even hear of. (No one likes casting out demons although two occasions I have heard from familial churches and I believed what they said).

No, but I cannot be quick to believe a youtube video on something as unverifiable as people recieving healing of God. I've seen God's healing power but not someone speaking over me and I'm immediately healed. So I'm not calling her a liar, but I do have to take it with a grain of salt.

People can only do so by spiritual powers because innate flesh cannot do that right?

I think you are underestimating what the human spirit can do. We aren’t just flesh.

So only by God or demons that prophet prophecied over us.

Not so, we have abilities to perceive. It is so.

 

[hawkman]

I believe magic exists and is a cute name to replace the more biblical and real term called: witchcraft, divination, sorcery, secret arts.

I just don't like the cute name , that is all . A whitewash of the demonic .

I have been in churches were I was really convinced that it is a bible-believing/following church, just their understanding of gifts idk (which I don't believe is fundamentental) why don't believe never have no interpretor?

Where is that right place, my main concern is there are no interpretors for tongues and no one has shown me an example still.

You need to attend a mainline Pentecostal church that has an overseer for the region or the state that the church you are attending is in . Without oversight things can go off the rails with little possibility of correction .