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Standing With Ukraine: The Blind Leading The Blind

Hi Riven
Which is a guarantee that there will be no negotiations. So we can reasonably expect two things from this. One, that the war will continue indefinitely .Two, Russia is not going to capitulate.
I don't really see the connection there. Could you explain a little more clearly how our military thinking that Ukraine is not being full reveal with us, has some bearing on there not ever being any negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. And why it would mean that the war will go on forever because Russia isn't going to capitulate.

I honestly don't see how those oranges can become apples.

God bless.
Ted
 
Russia, Putin only intended to rescue the (Russian and Russian/Ukrainian) people of the Doneske region from Genocide,


There are several myths used by Russia and its fellow travelers to justify the invasion of Ukraine. One is that a “genocide” was happening in Donbass, where Ukrainians killed “14,000” pro-Russian separatists and civilians since 2014.

This is just another myth, as are others we debunked in a previous Bitter Winter series. Many who repeat this story have only a vague idea of what “Donbass” means. “Donbass” (also spelled Donbas) is not a legal but a cultural and historical expression. The name was coined in the 19th century as an acronym for “DONetsk BASin,” an area in the east of Ukraine renowned for its coal mines. The coal boom of the same 19th century led to the immigration of thousands of Russian-speaking workers from present-day Russia into what was originally a predominantly Ukrainian-speaking area.

With the Soviet Union, a part of the historical Donbass was incorporated into Russia, while most of it formed the two oblasts (regions) of Donetsk and Luhansk in the Soviet republic of Ukraine. Generally, today, “Donbass” refers to the two Ukrainian oblasts of Donetsk and Luhansk.
 
Hi Riven

I don't really see the connection there. Could you explain a little more clearly how our military thinking that Ukraine is not being full reveal with us, has some bearing on there not ever being any negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. And why it would mean that the war will go on forever because Russia isn't going to capitulate.

I honestly don't see how those oranges can become apples.

God bless.
Ted
It's what I highlighted in the quote. Russia will never allow Ukraine to become a member of NATO. Negotiations are only possible if neutrality is guaranteed. However, Putin no longer trusts the United States follow through on any promises of Ukraine neutrality at this point. So negotiations at this point in time are effectively cut off.

The war will continue indefinitely because Russia is not going to give up and go home.
 
Hi Riven

Well, we'll have to cross that bridge when we get to it.

While I don't pretend to be a prophet, I'm reading of cracks in the Kremlin. But I do know that Pres. Putin is considered a very severe and driven man. You may be right as far as in his lifetime. I really have a hard time imagining any war to be indefinate. Although we were at war with N. Korea for an awfully long time.

Why in the world would Putin trust the U.S.? We don't trust them and they don't trust us is pretty much how the world's been running for at least the last 100 years. We don't run NATO! That's a conglomeration of nations, of which we may be the largest, but if Ukraine wants to apply to NATO and are accepted, it wouldn't be solely the U.S.'s fault.

We'll see what unfolds over the next 6 months.

God bless,
Ted
 
I've quoted that passage more than 20 times in various Bible studies I've written.

Why are you citing it here?
If you want the truth I decided not to respond. I did my job by delivering the mail and your precious blood is no longer on my hands according to Ezekial 3:18. I am not responsible whether you decide to open the mail and read the contents and I have realized that the typical western Christian wants to be where they are and placed my efforts ministering in other countries, predominantly where western Christians are afraid to go for fear of having their head severed off, missing out in experiencing the same God written of in Exodus and Acts

But I see God longs for you so I prayed on whether I should respond and if so what I should respond. I received nothing and decided to leave it alone. But I received a response this morning, without any doubt. Whether you believe that or not is within your purview.
 
I did my job by delivering the mail and your precious blood is no longer on my hands according to Ezekial 3:18.

Ok good, Lol. But pray about whether my precious blood was ever in your hands to begin with. You should have been listening, not talking.

God bless,
- H
 
You can get covid if you get the shot?
miamited ... my bad ... meant to type
You can't get covid if you get the shot?

Well ... I guess our conclusion is you trust the media and government more than I. Neither of us can prove much of what they say to be true of false if one uses the judicial yardstick defining what a witness can attest to.

Aside: You communicate much better than most posters (off topic)
 
Heard of a new one: flurries (anthropomorphic animals). Public school children can become a flurry. Heard second hand of a school where they have litter boxes in the washrooms for the flurry children that ID as flurries.
You are talking about a Facebook troll post that keeps cimming up. Every few months a new politician brings up the story and its the same copy paste every time and zero evidence of the litter box.


Furries are fans of anthropomorphic animals like cartoon animals. The internet and nerd culture in general has trolled furries since the 80s. Furries arr just nerds.
 
ou are talking about a Facebook troll post that keeps cimming up. Every few months a new politician brings up the story and its the same copy paste every time and zero evidence of the litter box.
I know the "flurry" idea has been discredited, but I've heard from a neighbor whose relative has a kid in California that attests to it. Maybe it untrue, maybe not. I heard a lot of stories in which schools are denying this and that, that turn out to be true in the last year.
Admittedly, truth is a scarce commodity ... maybe you're right.
 
I know the "flurry" idea has been discredited, but I've heard from a neighbor whose relative has a kid in California that attests to it. Maybe it untrue, maybe not. I heard a lot of stories in which schools are denying this and that, that turn out to be true in the last year.
Admittedly, truth is a scarce commodity ... maybe you're right.
I have been around furries since the early 2000s. There is a small subset of people that believe they are animals and o mean small. The large bulk of furries are needs and geeks that like animal people. Costuming, arts, comics, etc. I have had fr8ends link me the same story spreading all over the country. It's always the dame copy paste liter box in a gender nuetral bathroom and a cat/dog group of children.
 
Hi Fastfredy0

Thanks, I try to be concise and understandable in my reasoning and responses. However, I too, miss the 'edit' button on this board. LOL!

You can't get covid if you get the shot?

I don't know that any medical professional ever made such a claim. I don't remember anyone saying that you wouldn't get covid with the vaccine. I mean, let's be realistic here, we're talking about an airborne viral menace and there's no way that some shot you get in your arm is going to keep the virus from being inhaled if you walk into a cloud of someone else's spittle that is carrying the virus.

So you have always been subject to 'catching' the covid virus and I'd be interested, if you could fine it, who it was that you're reporting said that if you get the shot you won't get covid.

All the shot did was get your body prepared by developing resistance to the virus so that when/if one were to breathe in the virus and it begin to attack their body, the resistance would be armed and ready so that you wouldn't die from the infection.

You know, people get flu shots every year. Do you believe that means that no one who gets the shot ever gets the flu? You might want to check the medical statistics on that idea. All a vaccine can do is prepare your body for an attack from whatever biological threat it is designed to fight against. So, and I'm pretty sure this has always been what medical professionals have said, getting the vaccine has never been touted as a 'no virus' initiative.

However, I do remember that there was one person who made some pretty outrageous claims that many of that person's followers believed. One was the claim that it would be gone in just a few weeks or months...wrong! One was to express the idea that maybe we could inject ourselves with some simple home cleaning products to kill it immediately...wrong! One was that the warm weather of summer would bring about it's end...wrong! Anyone who listened to that person's prognosis, probably feels that their government is always lying to them, because that person in government usually was.

Anyway, if you've got a minute, could you copy and paste any link to such a proclamation that the vaccine injection meant that people wouldn't get covid.

BTW, here's what Dr. Fauci said about the vaccine early on:

A highly edited video shared on Instagram misrepresents comments made by Dr. Anthony Fauci, the United States’ top infectious disease expert, on why individuals with the COVID-19 vaccine should still wear masks in public until the country achieves herd immunity. Fauci explains that it is not yet clear how effective the current vaccines are at curbing the spread of the virus from an immunized person to others. In other words, a vaccine will prevent the recipient from getting sick, but that person may still carry the virus and expose those who have not received the vaccine.

Here's an early interview on the subject by Dr. Fauci:
In the interview, Fauci answers Cuomo’s question of “Why do I have to keep wearing the mask after I get the vaccine?” by stating that those who are vaccinated “could be prevented from getting clinical disease,” but may “still have the virus that is in your nasopharynx because you could get infected.”

After Fauci says, “We’re not sure, at this point, that the vaccine protects you against getting infected,” the edited Instagram clip plays a record scratch sound effect and a voiceover asks in disbelief, “We’re not sure? At this point? That the vaccine protects you against getting infected?”

Pretty clearly explained that they didn't have any research to make any definite determination of whether or not the vaccine would prevent anyone from getting the disease.

But look, I'm a reasonable person and I don't live in fear that my government or the medical practitioners are 'out to get me'. If respected and well trained and learned medical practioners tell me that my best chance to fight off a plague that was killing thousands of people every day is to get a shot...Hey!! I'm there buddy.

God bless,
Ted
 
Just curious,if Russia or any large capable threat to isreal attacks isreal.should isreal believe that the u.s. would and should rally to her defense ?

Oh and in the six day war we nearly went to direct war with Russia over aiding isreal as Russia aided the arab nations .

I say this because even if trump won .If I was another country I wouldn't depend on u.s. being consistent on being able and willing to defend me.
 
However, I too, miss the 'edit' button on this board. LOL!
Yeah ... I noticed that too.


You can't get covid if you get the shot?

I don't know that any medical professional ever made such a claim.

Lot's and lot's of people and agencies said it. I googled it. Quickly got:

  1. CDC walks back claim that vaccinated people can’t carry COVID-19

  2. Biden said, ‘If you get vaccinated, you won’t get COVID.’ Today, he tested positive for COVID

  3. Fauci: Vaccinated people become 'dead ends' for the coronavirus

  4. a lot more .. you get the point​


getting the vaccine has never been touted as a 'no virus' initiative.
Definition of Vaccine: A substance prepared from dead or living microorganisms that is introduced into the body through inoculation. The vaccine causes the development of antibodies, which produce immunity to the disease caused by the microorganism.

Fauci said a lot of contradictory things ... but I don't want to go there... topic is not that interesting and tangential to the point I was trying to make which seems long ago ... *smile*

Have a good day Miamited.
 
Before you go Fastfredy0

While I don't consider Pres. Biden a medical professional, I do agree that there were some careless and untested claims made by the CDC. However, in their defense, they did come clean about it. So, I don't consider that to be some 'plot of the government against me'. That's people in government made some bad decisions.

So yes, I still pretty much trust the U.S. government, can't say that for all governments, as far as they're have any direct influence in my life. I can prove it! I have my vaccination card. LOL!

God bless,
Ted
 
I have already been censored for exposing the nazi spirit behind the Ukraine agenda which also runs the US now and leads many Christians in her and the stance against a Christian nation by 'christians'. I have also posted the wrath coming to USSA along with the rest. That was taken down but I reposted it. Least say my days on here are probably numbered and I rejoice because no one's blood will be on my hands.
Why do you think your days here are numbered?
This sub-forum is not censored.
 
Why do you think your days here are numbered?
This sub-forum is not censored.
Well it's based on what I mentioned. And from experience. The subjects I touch on either brings repentance and revival or outlast and scoffings. The latter has occurred. But this is common through old and new testament whether it was Jeremiah, Paul or Christ Himself. Christ assured it if you are standing in righteousness I believe, is that the case? And if a Christian is not experiencing persecution in his life as did the prophets is there something awry or not?

Sin and the attribute of justice in the character of God. Turning from your wicked ways so that God may heal your land.
 
Well it's based on what I mentioned. And from experience. The subjects I touch on either brings repentance and revival or outlast and scoffings. The latter has occurred. But this is common through old and new testament whether it was Jeremiah, Paul or Christ Himself. Christ assured it if you are standing in righteousness I believe, is that the case? And if a Christian is not experiencing persecution in his life as did the prophets is there something awry or not?

Sin and the attribute of justice in the character of God. Turning from your wicked ways so that God may heal your land.
I agree that it's possible for an entire nation could be under God's wrath. But if still happens one person at a time.

Also, we're under persecution right now. It'll probably just get worse. I mean for Christians individually and as a religion.

On this forum you won't have a problem as long as civility is practiced.
 
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