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Is there salvation for anyone who rebels againts God and try's to destroy Him and His one way or another?
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No.
Is there salvation for anyone who rebels againts God and try's to destroy Him and His one way or another?
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Sure is the last day, we will never be seperated from the Lord and shall live and dwell in a new heaven and earth, New Jerusalem with the Father and the Son forever and ever after the final judgement, when Death is cast into the lake of fire. Amen.
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
All in the first resurrection will indeed have eternal security and will not be a part of those who are decieved at the end of the thousand years.
His will have perfection, incorruptible bodies, the same in which He was raised in and will forever be with the Lord.
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
jasoncran
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of course, that isnt what i meant by that. we can till our death still choose life or death.
i wonder if the kindgom is now and here physically where and why arent animals eating plants (all of them).
Ok, good to have further clarification.
Well specifically because it isnt literally here, but the kingdom is certianly at hand, the Spirit of God certianly recides in the hearts of His, His will be raised up on the last day and recieve the inheritance and indeed His have the inheritance because He will raise them up on the last day, therefore, it is done.
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i know that, the amilleniasts here seem to think that we millenialist forget the kingdom is nigh to those that ask.
ok, didnt say you didnt, i should learn how to break up ppl's qoutes lol, makes things confusing for others sometimes.
The space after my first reply wasnt directed soley at you 8)
Thats fine also, i cant make people think in any way shape or form, they do that for themselves, ill continue doing what is being done no matter what another person thinks in either way, whether thier "historist/pastist" or "futurist" or "middleist" (yes i created those things in " ", makes it easier for me to understand, i know theres a boat load of subdivision within all 3 of those spoken of in " ")
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There is a word that describes the notion that the resurrection will take place on the last day and be followed by a further 1,000 years of history.
That word is ' dishonest'.
jasoncran
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hitch why arent animals eating plants only? and why do you annie up say that that the genesis account of veganism or what ever is closest isnt the case, isiah describes very picturesque that the lamb lion and the boy shall lie down together.
the tree of life is where?
How is it dishonest?
I've told why its the last day, so if its dishonest then will any of His resurrected not have power over the second death and infact actually be subject to being seperated from Him?
No.
Corruption takes on incorruption when we are resurrected, and we will never be seperated from Him, the second death will have no power over us, we will never cease to exist and shall forever be with the Lord.
So where is the dishonesty?
Seems like alot of truth to me in calling it the last day.
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And the New Jerusalem has come.
It is where "righteousness dwells." Peter told his audience to look for that New heaven & earth, even if he himself didn't live in the earthly counterpart of "the new heavens & earth."
Where to now St. Peter? (Little rock) :sing
It is where "righteousness dwells." Peter told his audience to look for that New heaven & earth, even if he himself didn't live in the earthly counterpart of "the new heavens & earth."
Where to now St. Peter? (Little rock) :sing
jasoncran
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so christ doesnt ever return? he never comes back?
mathew 5;5
'the meek shall inherit the earth"
if the kingdom isnt ever physically on the earth whats the point of that statement above on the meek inheriting the earth
during this thousand yrs of your intpretation that we are in its said in isiah that the lion and lamb do what i said.
jason i never said such a thing!
Yes Jesus returns!
We can have His Kingdom where ever we are. On mars, the moon, in jail, at a ball game, working for some ol creep.
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Yes Jesus returns!
We can have His Kingdom where ever we are. On mars, the moon, in jail, at a ball game, working for some ol creep.
Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
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isiah 66:25
this is where i got this idea
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust [shall be] the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD
when has that happened?
this is where i got this idea
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust [shall be] the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD
when has that happened?
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that isnt what we millenialist disagree on , what we say is there is a time frame where christ comes to reign on the earth(it doesn end on that reign), in that time there will be peace, the animals will be reverted to what God wanted. but satan is realised to test men one last time
so all men die when christ comes back? the battle of harmeggido is only in isreal.
not all over the world!!!!!!!! otherwise why is the tree of life for the healing of nations?
Reba, read the whole scriptural teaching of the Holy Spirit in Paul regarding the verses you qouted.
It is in fact speaking about, if your with your brethren and it will cause him to stumble because of what you are eating, dont eat it, not because you cant but because "For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost"
Paul is instructing us to not destroy our brethren because of what we eat and drink, if it offends someone you are with and you know of it, stop.
Not for your sake but for the sake of not destroying your brethren whom Christ died for.
In this you are in the kingdom of God which is righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.
"Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another. Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for the man who eats with offense (which would be your brethren your eating the things he doesnt think you should be eating). It is good neither to eat meat or drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak. Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.
The kingdom spoken of here is in fact the indwelling of salvation in His, which fruit is righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, not the inheritance as we are speaking of.
We are a part of the kingdom now for the kingdom is in us, but we are not in the kingdom, we will be and therefore are through the Lord Jesus Christ.
You believe Jesus is the Christ?
You believe He will raise you on the last day to your inheritance, that you will recieve perfection and be raised just as He was raised?
If so you are a part of the kingdom, the kingdom is in you and you will inherit the kingdom.
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
It certianly has not come, New Jerusalem will not come until all things are put under Him by Him and He subjects Himself to Him who put all things under Him, that wont happen until the second judgement where Death being the last enemy is cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death.
Then we will inherit the new heaven and earth, New Jerusalem and dwell with the Father and the Son forever and ever. Amen.
This has definetly not happened yet.
Peter told his audience to look to the hope of the resurrection through Christ as Christ was raised that so also would He raise us.
Peter was speaking of the Holy Spirit in us, which is of God, which is where righteousness dwells, if the Spirit dwells in you then righteousness also dwells in you because the Holy Spirit is of God and if you are of God through Jesus Christ with His Spirit you will infact be gathered together with Him on His return.
The blessed hope in the brethren is the resurrection because we will never be seperated from the Lord, we will be perfected and will never be subject to the second death, for we shall be like Him in perfection.
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
I dont understand, sorry.
Could you clarify sister?
Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ