Those who Christ tasted death for are by that death delivered from death.The whole verse points out the fact that Jesus tasted death for "many" who are currently and will become God's children (Sons of God). And this could be anybody!
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Those who Christ tasted death for are by that death delivered from death.The whole verse points out the fact that Jesus tasted death for "many" who are currently and will become God's children (Sons of God). And this could be anybody!
And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:2
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:16
May I indulge.Please explain how billions of dead people who never heard of Christ could have been saved by belief in Christ.
Please explain how billions of dead people who never heard of Christ could have been saved by belief in Christ.
If I may,Please explain how billions of dead people who never heard of Christ could have been saved by belief in Christ.
Christ died for the whole world, but the world won't acknowledge it and turn to His Father for salvation.Agreed. But again you avoid the crux of the matter. Did Christ die for the world (everyone without exception) in the sense that everyone without exception can be saved by belief in Him. If this be true, then explain how billions of dead people who never heard of Christ could have been saved by belief in Christ.
Again, Christ's offer has a catch to it. You must believe in ME (Christ). Christ (at least his divine nature) knows that for billions of people they will never believe in Him because He has denied them the opportunity to hear of him and therefore any proposed idea that Christ died for everyone without exception is a gift so to speak that will never be offered to those people. Therefore, Christ dying for the WORLD cannot mean that He died for everyone without exception in the sense that they have any opportunity to be saved whatsoever!
By Death delivered from Death.
We know that Christ didnt taste Death for all individuals without exception since those He tasted Death for are by His Death delivered from Death and the fear of Death Heb 2:9,14-15
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
Those who Christ tasted death for have been set free from the death the devil brought about !
I have no problem with those verses. Yet all for whom Christ tasted death for are delivered from satans work and death.John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
How can you deny the word "world" as Jesus spoke it four times in the first two verses. A child can understand the word "world". Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
It is only the ignorance of men that have turned away from God that they are blinded to see Him in creation. The word of God has gone out into the world from the beginning of His creation by that which we see in His creation. But yet man refuses to hear God calling them to salvation, except Noah who was the only one who found favor in God.To say the Christ died for everyone, which many claim is the intent of the word WORLD of John 3:16, is an absurdity. It is ignorance of the facts that clearly show that billions of people have died and not heard the gospel; said gospel being necessary for salvation.
You seek to change that of what Jesus said without knowing you do. Were you saved before you repented for the remission of your sin and came to the Lord and confessed Him as your Lord and Savior?I have no problem with those verses. Yet all for whom Christ tasted death for are delivered from satans work and death.
Why would Jesus only taste death for some, but not others?I have no problem with those verses. Yet all for whom Christ tasted death for are delivered from satans work and death.
Great post!Why would Jesus only taste death for some, but not others?
Is He a respecter of person only giving a certain few a chance to repent and turn back to Him?
I know I do not serve a God who would not give everyone a chance to come to Him.
Romans 1:17
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Then Christ died in vain for billions of people for one is saved by faith in Christ and we know billions of people have died without word of Christ.Christ died for the whole world, but the world won't acknowledge it and turn to His Father for salvation.
I gave factual documentation. It is unreasonable for one to suppose that people living on another continent in 100 A.D. had heard of Christ. Please tell me how a 1218 North American indian heard of Christ?You say that God has denied them the opportunity to hear of Him.
I'ld call that an untruth.
Then Christ died in vain for billions of people for one is saved by faith in Christ and we know billions of people have died without word of Christ.
You CAN'T be save by faith in CHRIST if you never heard of Him. (unless, like others you propose another gospel of salvation. (Gal. 1:8)
I gave factual documentation. It is unreasonable for one to suppose that people living on another continent in 100 A.D. had heard of Christ. Please tell me how a 1218 North American indian heard of Christ?
I suppose all the mission that went to remote areas to evangelize were lying when they said the people they spoke to never heard of Christ.
Agreed. Ignorance of the means of salvation by faith in Christ for billions of people who never heard of him.It is only the ignorance of men that have turned away from God that they are blinded to see Him in creation.
True enough. God creation is enough evidence to condemn all men but the observation of creation has NO REDEMPTIVE properties. That is to say that the knowledge that God exists via the observation of His creation is insufficient for salvation. Salvation is through Christ alone. If you know of another method, please let me know what it is and give me a web site where I can study the new method of salvation better.The word of God has gone out into the world from the beginning of His creation by that which we see in His creation.
A lot more is known of God than from the very beginning as in the beginning little to nothing was known of Christ.today we have the written word of God that has been taught from the very beginning.
AgreedNo one will be without excuse before the Lord on judgement day as God can be found in all of His creation if they were quite long enough to hear His small still voice whispering in the wind. Romans 1:18-32.
Complete agreement. But the question of the thread is "Tasted death for every man".No one will be without excuse before the Lord on judgement day as God can be found in all of His creation if they were quite long enough to hear His small still voice whispering in the wind. Romans 1:18-32.
I can't agree with that.I have no problem with those verses. Yet all for whom Christ tasted death for are delivered from satans work and death.
Abraham never heard of Jesus.Then Christ died in vain for billions of people for one is saved by faith in Christ
According to you, but I know anyone who wants to know God will hear of Him and of His gifts for them.and we know billions of people have died without word of Christ.
You won't hear of Him if you don't want to hear from Him.You CAN'T be save by faith in CHRIST if you never heard of Him. (unless, like others you propose another gospel of salvation. (Gal. 1:8)
Had they wanted to know a God, they would have heard of the God.I gave factual documentation. It is unreasonable for one to suppose that people living on another continent in 100 A.D. had heard of Christ. Please tell me how a 1218 North American indian heard of Christ?
I suppose all the mission that went to remote areas to evangelize were lying when they said the people they spoke to never heard of Christ.
Agape love is defined as .... is unconcerned with the self and concerned with the greatest good of another. Agape isn’t born just out of emotions, feelings, familiarity, or attraction, but from the will and as a choice.When Jesus said He so loved the world, He meant everyone that lives in it.