What does Rev 20 state?
Rev 20:11 Then I saw
a great white throne and
him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and
books were opened. Then
another book was opened, which is the book of life. And
the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and
they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done.
Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
Rev 20:15 And
if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. (ESV)
There are at least two different judgements going on. One is the judgement of works and the other is for whether or not one is saved. The first is relevant for the believer, that latter is not. And that agrees with Paul:
2Co 5:10 For we must all appear
before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil. (ESV)
Again, I’ve pointed out more than once that you have not provided support for either of these assumptions.
Which I’ve always said but contradicts the main premise--that there is a "postmortem opportunity" for salvation--of many threads you have made.
Which is not an argument I have ever made.
I know. I’ve stated that more than once.
Why should I explain something that I never said and goes against scripture?
I’ve addressed that. That’s also another assumption that you have yet to support—who it is that is raised first. Hint: there is no reason to believe it is all believers, especially when we know that there are those in the general resurrection whose names are in the book of life.
Two more unsupported assumptions. You have not shown where the Bible says we are seated with Christ on judgement day, despite me pointing out that only one throne is mentioned. And you’re assuming that judging angels in 1 Cor 6:3 refers to judgement day.
It seems simple because you’re making a number of unsupported assumptions and seem to not really be reading what I’m writing.
I never said that, much less insisted. It shows you aren’t really reading what I’m writing.
Reems of posts? Lol This thread is four pages; actually two and half since the first bit was more about ChatGPT. When I want to know what someone has said, I’ll go back 20 pages and follow their arguments. It’s simple.
It’s not confusing for me and many others. There has been a total of four people in this thread. I've remembered what you have and haven't said regarding the passages in question in this thread. Do you really think that having ten or more threads about one topic would be easier? Do you really think that each thread would stay on only one verse, especially when it is
never a good idea to discuss only one verse, since the context includes all that is said about a matter? Can you imagine the crisscrossing that would go on, with multiple posts in each of the threads linking to multiple posts in other threads in order to reference what was said elsewhere, so that context is maintained?
None of that has to do with this discussion. Multiple threads on the same topic are not permitted. It’s really not that difficult to discuss multiple passages about one topic in one thread, especially since they all form a part of the context.
It is actually the best way.
Well, that is your choice.
