The covid injections don't work

[eddif]

Is Sinopharm a smoke screen? Somehow I missed this if it had already been posted.
70% effective? Vs 12.98% effective?
Has my % guess missed the true percentage? Do we have an effective efficiency for our shot?

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[eddif]

Update.

China’s COVID vaccines have been crucial — now immunity is waning

Billions of shots of China’s CoronaVac and Sinopharm vaccines have been given globally, but studies have questioned the length of protection they offer.

www.nature.com

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[JLB]

You are implying that people who are “perfectly well” would violate Jesus’s words if they went to a doctor.

I am implying that people who are not sick don't need a doctor.

No, I was attempting to get to answer by first asking you some questions in reply, which you didn’t answer. But I have already given the answer to which I was heading: your interpretation is deeply flawed because you are divorcing it from the context and using it as a pretext to support your position on the COVID vaccines. Very erroneous; very dangerous.

Based on the doctors I have listened to, taking an experimental, unnapproved vaccine, that doesn't prevent you from getting or dying from Covid or its variants and doesn't keep you from spreading Covid to others is dangerous.

Why would people who are perfectly well go and have an experimental, unapproved vaccine injected into their body in direct violation of the words of Christ?


However, if someone does decide to get the vaccine, I certainly don't fault them, and wish them well.




JLB

 

[JLB]

In the context of what you said, for people who are “perfectly well” (which is almost no one, so it is meaningless without qualifications) it would violate Jesus’s words to get one of the COVID vaccines. That is as erroneous an interpretation as it is dangerous. You are implying that people who are “perfectly well” would violate Jesus’s words if they went to a doctor.


No, I was attempting to get to answer by first asking you some questions in reply, which you didn’t answer. But I have already given the answer to which I was heading: your interpretation is deeply flawed because you are divorcing it from the context and using it as a pretext to support your position on the COVID vaccines. Very erroneous; very dangerous.

Q. Is Veklury (remdesivir) approved by the FDA to treat COVID-19?

A. On October 22, 2020, FDA approved Veklury (remdesivir) for use in adults and pediatric patients (12 years of age and older and weighing at least 40 kg) for the treatment of COVID-19 requiring hospitalization. Veklury should only be administered in a hospital or in a healthcare setting capable of providing acute care comparable to inpatient hospital care.

https://www.fda.gov/media/137574/download

If a person does get Covid there is medicine to treat it.





JLB

 

[eddif]

COVID-19 vaccine efficacy summary | Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation

To project future COVID-19 trends, IHME uses the available data on vaccine efficacy, summarized here.

www.healthdata.org

Oh well they rate our vaccines in 90% range.

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[Norman]

My province is making the omicron vax available to everybody 18 and older. And one can now have it 3 months after the last booster.
And they assure us that it is perfectly safe! What a relief, since this is the fastest-spreading version yet!
I love my socialist government...they think of everything!

 

[Norman]

They apparently do something...

New Zealand Jab Victim Speaking Out

Casey Hodgkinson and her mother Anna, sat down with our reporter Carina Ruiz, to debrief after her first public speech at a recent freedom rally in Auckland. The mainstream media attended but still refuse to acknowledge Casey's story & Auckland businessman and mayoral hopeful had no issue...

freeworldnews.tv

 

[christian1724]

They apparently do something...

New Zealand Jab Victim Speaking Out

Casey Hodgkinson and her mother Anna, sat down with our reporter Carina Ruiz, to debrief after her first public speech at a recent freedom rally in Auckland. The mainstream media attended but still refuse to acknowledge Casey's story & Auckland businessman and mayoral hopeful had no issue...

freeworldnews.tv

This girl wanted to keep her job, which she liked a lot, so she took the vaccine. They tell you that it is for the greater good. They warn that there might be a few who are severely harmed by it. But if you want to keep your job, you have to 'choose' to take it.

'For the greater good' is an evil concept born of evil minds.
God is not moved to do things for the 'greater good'.

 

[Norman]

I know a scam when I see one...this is a scam.
I don't go looking for this stuff as it's everywhere...except on the MSM.
I still find it amazing at how society has changed for the worse in such a short time.
They say rust never sleeps.

 

[christian1724]

Yes, even the liberals of yesteryear would be shocked by what they were able to do in such a short period of time.

 

[JLB]

 

[Free]

I am implying that people who are not sick don't need a doctor.



Based on the doctors I have listened to, taking an experimental, unnapproved vaccine, that doesn't prevent you from getting or dying from Covid or its variants and doesn't keep you from spreading Covid to others is dangerous.

Again, the vaccines are not experimental. That they’re unapproved is a double standard you and others are using. Why do you promote the use of an unapproved treatment (Ivermectin) but don’t approve of unapproved vaccines and don’t promote the use of an approved vaccine?

Why would people who are perfectly well go and have an experimental, unapproved vaccine injected into their body in direct violation of the words of Christ?

You keep using that argument but it is a serious error in interpretation. It is also very dangerous because you are not only saying that healthy people would violate Jesus’s words in getting a COVID vaccine, you are also saying that healthy people would be violating Jesus’s words if they went to a doctor for anything. You have divorced the verse from its context in an attempt to make it support your position.

 

[WIP]

Again, the vaccines are not experimental.

Again I have to disagree to this and I'm using the US FDA as my reference. Maybe in Canada things are different.

The typical or normal process required by the FDA for any release of any drug or vaccine for general public use requires anywhere from 2 - 6 years of clinical testing. Clinical testing only begins after the preclinical tests that typically/normally take 6-10 years or more.

The three phases of clinical testing are run successively using progressively larger volunteer groups with monitoring and evaluation for safety and efficacy which must be completed and verified before each successive test is begun.

Because of the urgency of the situation, some of these processes were managed somewhat differently in order to push things along in a faster time frame which opens the door for a level of caution or apprehension for some people.

Clinical testing of these vaccines didn't begin until March of 2020. (source: National Institute of Health news release dated March 16, 2020) Never in the 225 year history of vaccine development, even for those employing known technology, have we ever been able to develop and fully approve a vaccine in less than 6 years.

We also must remember that all of these vaccines employ a different new technology than what we've previously understood and used for vaccines. This is what makes them experimental and for this reason I believe it is not appropriate to force, coerce, or mandate that anyone submit to getting injected. It should be left up to the individuals to be able to make that choice for themselves.

 

[Barbarian]

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[JLB]

Again, the vaccines are not experimental.

How long did previous vaccines take to develop?

The typical or normal process required by the FDA for any release of any drug or vaccine for general public use requires anywhere from 2 - 6 years of clinical testing. Clinical testing only begins after the preclinical tests that typically/normally take 6-10 years or more.

JLB

 

[JLB]

Again, the vaccines are not experimental. That they’re unapproved is a double standard you and others are using. Why do you promote the use of an unapproved treatment (Ivermectin) but don’t approve of unapproved vaccines and don’t promote the use of an approved vaccine?


You keep using that argument but it is a serious error in interpretation. It is also very dangerous because you are not only saying that healthy people would violate Jesus’s words in getting a COVID vaccine, you are also saying that healthy people would be violating Jesus’s words if they went to a doctor for anything. You have divorced the verse from its context in an attempt to make it support your position.

The good news we can all look forward to is Joe Biden is giving out free medical advice to everyone that refuses to allow themselves to be injected with an unapproved, experimental vaccine.

 

[JLB]

We also must remember that all of these vaccines employ a different new technology than what we've previously understood

Which is why they should fall under the 10-12 year period of trial.





JLB

 

[JLB]

Again, the vaccines are not experimental. That they’re unapproved is a double standard you and others are using. Why do you promote the use of an unapproved treatment (Ivermectin) but don’t approve of unapproved vaccines and don’t promote the use of an approved vaccine?


You keep using that argument but it is a serious error in interpretation. It is also very dangerous because you are not only saying that healthy people would violate Jesus’s words in getting a COVID vaccine, you are also saying that healthy people would be violating Jesus’s words if they went to a doctor for anything. You have divorced the verse from its context in an attempt to make it support your position.

Looks like Ivermectin and Remdisiver are good alternatives to taking an unapproved, experimental vaccine.




JLB

 

[eddif]

Google Scholar

scholar.google.com

Polio 1934-1958
According to source

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[JLB]

CDC PANEL ADVISES AGAINST JOHNSON AND JOHNSON VACCINE.