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The Millennial Reign

Edward

Edward

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What is the purpose of the Millennial Reign of Jesus for the 1000 years here on earth?

To fulfill the prophecies about it obviously, and perhaps to show us how it would have been or should have been had corruption not entered the world and caused man kinds fall? And a final test of us when Satan gets loosed for a short season at the end of the 1000 years....Anything else?

There has to be more to it...
 
Perhaps an effort to save a few souls in that era by raising them in an environment of rule by Christ and His saints? Souls that would best respond to that type of environment may be chosen for that time. Souls that were best able to be led to salvation during the environment that existed in earlier times were placed in the pre 1000 year environment? Just a guess. I don't know all the answers.

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28 NKJV
 
Edward said:
What is the purpose of the Millennial Reign of Jesus for the 1000 years here on earth?

To fulfill the prophecies about it obviously, and perhaps to show us how it would have been or should have been had corruption not entered the world and caused man kinds fall? And a final test of us when Satan gets loosed for a short season at the end of the 1000 years....Anything else?

There has to be more to it...
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Michael74 said:
Perhaps an effort to save a few souls in that era by raising them in an environment of rule by Christ and His saints? Souls that would best respond to that type of environment may be chosen for that time. Souls that were best able to be led to salvation during the environment that existed in earlier times were placed in the pre 1000 year environment? Just a guess. I don't know all the answers.

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28 NKJV
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We do not enter the Millennial Kingdom here on earth in our natural bodies, but in new glorified bodies, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54. When Christ returns in the air we are then caught up to meet Him in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord as He has made us unto our God kings and priests and we shall reign on the earth as we rule with Him over the nations as His enemies have become His footstool, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18; Rev 5:10; Psalms 110:1-4; Hebrews 10:12, 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21 Jesus descends down from heaven with His army of the host of heaven as He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His own to Him. He will destroy the beast and false prophet casting them into the lake of fire, Rev 19:15, 16. The remnant in Rev 19:21 are the kings (Rulers of every nation) on the earth and their armies that followed after the beast and his false prophet that go out to the battle of Armageddon as this army is sent out to kill Christ when they see Him, and the saints with Him, return and plants His feet on the mount of Olives, Zechariah 14:1-4.

The remnant, like the beast and false prophet, will be slain by the very words Jesus speaks of their demise and at that time Satan will be chained and bound so he can not interfere with those ungodly that are still alive on earth that become the footstool of Christ. Then the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ and He shall reign for ever and ever and the saints will then begin to rule over the nations here on earth, Rev 11:15; 5:10; 20:1-3; Matthew 5:5.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the kings/rulers from every nation are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints that are camped upon the breadth of the earth. Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9 the saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast onto the lake of fire.

John 5:28, 29; Rev 20:11-15, now comes the Great White throne judgment as the books are opened with one of them being the Lamb's book of life where all the saints of God have their names written as they have part of the first resurrection of eternal life on such the second death hath no power, Rev 20:6; 1 Corinthians 15:54-57. The other book is opened being the book of damnation where the enemies of God that were killed while trying to destroy the camp of the saints are now condemned and cast into the lake of fire. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. While the saints are on the earth it will be made new again and the New Jerusalem is ushered down from heaven.

Side note: IMO 1000 years in Rev 20 is not literal years, but only symbolic of a certain period of time as nowhere else in scripture other than Rev 20 does it mention a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on earth, but symbolic as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.
 
kiwidan said:
I thought all scripture is connected. So during the mellinial reign even the the devils believe and tremble.
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The demons do believe and tremble, James 2:19, as they know God better than we do since they had their place in the beginning in the third heaven with God before they chose to follow Satan. They need no faith to believe in God like we humans need, but yet remain His enemies as their allegiance is to Satan even during the millennium reign of Christ as Satan uses them in the battle of Armageddon against the encampment of the millennium saints.
 
Edward said:
What is the purpose of the Millennial Reign of Jesus for the 1000 years here on earth?

To fulfill the prophecies about it obviously, and perhaps to show us how it would have been or should have been had corruption not entered the world and caused man kinds fall? And a final test of us when Satan gets loosed for a short season at the end of the 1000 years....Anything else?

There has to be more to it...
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Ezek.44:23,24
And they shall teach my people the difference between the Holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.
They shall STAND in judgment, and they shall judge it according to My judgments....
These mortal souls (liable to die, spiritually) have a chance to put on immortality.
Rev.20:5,6
But the rest of the dead, (spiritually, mortal souls) lived not again until the 1000 years were finished....
Blessed and Holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection, on such the 2nd death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a 1000 years.
 
That's a good question, and we may not fully understand its answer till time gets here. I do however have a small theory to that, and that's all it is, a theory, I really don't have scripture to back it up except possibly one.

A time of Rest. When considering the timing is a thousand years here on earth. I considered what 2Peter 3:8 says, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Consider the Jewish calendar, there is a lot of years missing on it, that's because Jews believe that whenever Israel went through a time of unbelief, it was time that was not to be counted. It was left off their calendars purposely. Now take those timings and add them in you'd find that we are literally about to enter into the 7th thousandth year. If not already at the very beginning of the 7th thousandth year. Considering that here n 2 Peter clearly states a thousand years is but one day with God. then is t possible that thousand year reign of Christ when satan is bound, could be a day of rest. Fact is Jesus is our Rest.

I could be wrong, just a thought, just a theory.

God Bless
 
DelightfulinJesus said:
That's a good question, and we may not fully understand its answer till time gets here. I do however have a small theory to that, and that's all it is, a theory, I really don't have scripture to back it up except possibly one.

A time of Rest. When considering the timing is a thousand years here on earth. I considered what 2Peter 3:8 says, "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Consider the Jewish calendar, there is a lot of years missing on it, that's because Jews believe that whenever Israel went through a time of unbelief, it was time that was not to be counted. It was left off their calendars purposely. Now take those timings and add them in you'd find that we are literally about to enter into the 7th thousandth year. If not already at the very beginning of the 7th thousandth year. Considering that here n 2 Peter clearly states a thousand years is but one day with God. then is t possible that thousand year reign of Christ when satan is bound, could be a day of rest. Fact is Jesus is our Rest.

I could be wrong, just a thought, just a theory.

God Bless
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That is a theory worth looking into especially with 2 Peter 3:8 If you take 2 Peter 3:8 and cross reference it with Psalms 90:4 we can see that a thousand years is that of God's timing and not our timing of days and years.

Revelation 20:1-8 is the only passage in the entire scriptures that the premillinialists have as the basis for the "1000 year reign." Rev 20:4 doesn't speak about a 1000 year reign of Christ it says by the vision John received "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." It's not Christ that reigns 1000 years, but those who were killed for God's sake that reign with Christ 1000 years as 1000 being a figurative number, not a literal number as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.
 
for_his_glory said:
That is a theory worth looking into especially with 2 Peter 3:8 If you take 2 Peter 3:8 and cross reference it with Psalms 90:4 we can see that a thousand years is that of God's timing and not our timing of days and years.

Revelation 20:1-8 is the only passage in the entire scriptures that the premillinialists have as the basis for the "1000 year reign." Rev 20:4 doesn't speak about a 1000 year reign of Christ it says by the vision John received "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." It's not Christ that reigns 1000 years, but those who were killed for God's sake that reign with Christ 1000 years as 1000 being a figurative number, not a literal number as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.
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I believe a or when the word thousand is used, it can be taken literal or figurative, depending on how its being used. Same thing could be said about an hour, a day, a week. For instance we know a week to be 7 - 24 hr days, we as we see in the Book of Daniel a week is considered 7 yrs, meaning a day would have been consisted of a year. There are so many different timings found in the bible.

Also in Daniel 5:1 it says, "Belshazzar the king made a great feast for a thousand of his lords, and drank wine in the presence of the thousand."
Personally I'd have to take that number thousand as being literal for two reasons. 1, "and drank wine in the presence of the thousand." That's making a statement as to an event that happened. 2, you'd have to take into consideration the history and vast size of the Babylonian Empire and all the territories it covered. A lord of minor status may have been lord over 1 or 2 villages, whereas another lord of greater status, may have been lord over 5, 6, or more villages and towns. I can see and understand easily how Belshazzar had a 1000 or his lord attending his feast that evening. So in my humbled opinion I would have to take this verse literal.

God Bless and think you!
 
I just can't fathom why God would make us wait a literal thousand years after Christ returns and cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and then binding Satan for a literal thousand years before casting him into the lake of fire. What would be the purpose of a literal thousand years. After Christ returns the door of God's salvation will be closed as final judgement will be made when the books are opened.
 
for_his_glory said:
I just can't fathom why God would make us wait a literal thousand years after Christ returns and cast the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire and then binding Satan for a literal thousand years before casting him into the lake of fire. What would be the purpose of a literal thousand years. After Christ returns the door of God's salvation will be closed as final judgement will be made when the books are opened.
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Good question, ask yourself this question. Why would God even bind satan for any amount of time whether it’s 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 years, 200 years, or even 400 years. Then set him loose for a short period just to turn and then throw satan chained into the lake of fire forever and ever? That doesn’t make any since either. Why not chain and bound him, throw away the key, throw him into the lake of fire with the beast and false prophet before the thousand years.

God has a reason and purpose behind everything He does, therefore there has to be a meaning and purpose of the thousand years.

I’ll give you another explanation why I feel this may possibly be a time of rest. God, worked 6 days and rested on the seventh, and God told Israel that for 6 days they shall work and on the seventh is to be a holy day, a day of rest.



Then there is satan, to my knowledge satan hasn’t taken any days off from trying to destroy all that God has made good, especially mankind. Him and his minion’s causing havoc within so many people throughout the world. Trying and doing all he can to keep people in the dark by whatever means. But for a handful of us, we come to the truth and we step out of that darkness into light, that drives satan crazy. So he goes after Christians also, we end up fighting unbelievable spiritual battles. Killing Christians by the multitude around the world, trying to keep the Good News of Christ reaching the ears of others. Satan doesn’t want Jesus to have what belongs to Him. Satan has been at it for 6000 years and working over time now.

That thousand year reign I can’t help but believe is very possibly, going to be a holy day, a Sabbath, a day of rest where no evil will be able to have its way. Jesus will rule, having us with Him. Business isn’t done yet though, satan will be let loose again for a short time, and why that is, I cannot explain, wish I could. Just know I have to trust God and know He knows exactly what He is doing.

I hope this makes sense, and though it’s a theory of mine, its one of many I’ve worked on over the last couple of decades and know also during that timing of a thousand years there is other things going on. Just until I learn more I can’t speak on that.

Lord Bless
 
DelightfulinJesus

I never understood the part where Jesus returns and plants His feet on the mount of Olives. After searching and compiling all the scriptures I could find this is how I came up with that which I wrote in post #5. I think one thing we can agree on is it's all God's timing unlike our timing and His purpose for all things here on earth when Christ returns.
 
kiwidan said:
I thought all scripture is connected. So during the mellinial reign even the the devils believe and tremble.
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Actually they are bound for those 1000 years.
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
 
Edward said:
What is the purpose of the Millennial Reign of Jesus for the 1000 years here on earth?

To fulfill the prophecies about it obviously, and perhaps to show us how it would have been or should have been had corruption not entered the world and caused man kinds fall? And a final test of us when Satan gets loosed for a short season at the end of the 1000 years....Anything else?

There has to be more to it...
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I think its for Jesus. For after the last enemy , (death), has been destroyed Jesus will hand the Kingdom back over to the Father.

But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
 
If all Gods enemies are destroyed at the 2nd coming who then are the nations being ruled?
To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’ just as I have received authority from my Father. I will also give that one the morning star. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.

Does God have to threaten those that love Him. His resurrected children of God?
Zech 14
Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. 17 If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord Almighty, they will have no rain.

It was well understood and taught that the resurrection of the righteous will be on the last day. The Lord, (Jesus), will send out His angels to gather His elect from the ends of the heavens to the ends of the earth. (of us ALL) Those who are alive in Christ on earth on that day will be caught up so they also can be clothed with immortality. It is a bodily resurrection with bodies not of the dust of the earth but in the order of spirit.

Now we read in Revelation there are Christians in the 1st resurrection. Therefore those not raised on that day must be those who suffer. For we also believe in a resurrection of the unrighteous to judgment.
 
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