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The Pagan Easter

questdriven said:
Semantics regarding other members aside, the question to discuss would be this:
Is using something that was once a pagan practice participating in a pagan religion, and is it possible to worship a pagan god unintentionally? Without even knowing this god ever existed in ancient minds?

I will not argue one way or the other, just trying to keep the thread on track.
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But I know the difference, can't go back , because then it will be intentionally.
 
jeff77 said:
What I have learned from this thread so far is that nobody celebrates the pagan Ishtar holiday. Everyone that has posted so far does believe that Jesus rose from the grave. One of the things people say that makes Christianity stand out from other religions is that our God is alive.
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Personally I think that folks cross the line when they use a church to have an Easter service on "Easter" Sunday complete with an Easter egg hunt for the kids. chocolate Rabbits and eggs for everyone.

JLB
 
JLB said:
Personally I think that folks cross the line when they use a church to have an Easter service on "Easter" Sunday complete with an Easter egg hunt for the kids. chocolate Rabbits and eggs for everyone.JLB
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How about a service that doesn't use the word Easter, no egg hunts or chocolate rabbits, but does set aside a particular Sunday to focus on the importance of the resurrection of Jesus?
 
questdriven said:
Semantics regarding other members aside, the question to discuss would be this:
Is using something that was once a pagan practice participating in a pagan religion, and is it possible to worship a pagan god unintentionally? Without even knowing this god ever existed in ancient minds?

I will not argue one way or the other, just trying to keep the thread on track.
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You made me put my thinking cap on.
God said at one time that men could not cut their beards a certain way or shave their heads, both because the pagans around them did that.
So clean shaven men and guys who shave their heads are participating in a pagan ritual and thus are worshiping a pagan god? Nope.
Especially if they didn't know anything about the idol.

We could worship money by putting it both God. We could worship a person by putting them before God.
But it seems to me that worship entails having some kind of direct relationship with the person/thing/god that is the focus of the worship. Does that make any sense?
 
jeff77 said:
How about a service that doesn't use the word Easter, no egg hunts or chocolate rabbits, but does set aside a particular Sunday to focus on the importance of the resurrection of Jesus?
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I would say Amen!
God be the glory, praise ye the Lord.
I say, take this bread for it is my body.
Drink, this is my blood of the new testament,
He has risen!
 
Deborah13 said:
You made me put my thinking cap on.
God said at one time that men could not cut their beards a certain way or shave their heads, both because the pagans around them did that.
So clean shaven men and guys who shave their heads are participating in a pagan ritual and thus are worshiping a pagan god? Nope.
Especially if they didn't know anything about the idol.

We could worship money by putting it both God. We could worship a person by putting them before God.
But it seems to me that worship entails having some kind of direct relationship with the person/thing/god that is the focus of the worship. Does that make any sense?
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Makes perfect sense. We could make ANYTHING "bad" from the Word if we take things out of context.

I could use a scripture to take the tithe(old testament) and buy strong drink and party with family. Deut 14:26

And take another and prohibit drinking.Judges 13:4
 
Deborah13 said:
You made me put my thinking cap on.
God said at one time that men could not cut their beards a certain way or shave their heads, both because the pagans around them did that.
So clean shaven men and guys who shave their heads are participating in a pagan ritual and thus are worshiping a pagan god? Nope.
Especially if they didn't know anything about the idol.

We could worship money by putting it both God. We could worship a person by putting them before God.
But it seems to me that worship entails having some kind of direct relationship with the person/thing/god that is the focus of the worship. Does that make any sense?
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Reminds me of the law of a nazarite.
Num.6:5
There shall no razor come upon his head, until the days be fulfilled.
18, And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation...
 
dianegcook said:
Reminds me of the law of a nazarite.
Num.6:5
There shall no razor come upon his head, until the days be fulfilled.
18, And the Nazarite shall shave the head of his separation...
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No it didn't have anything to do with the law of the Nazarene. That doesn't state anything about 'rounding the corners of the beard.'
 
questdriven said:
Is using something that was once a pagan practice participating in a pagan religion, and is it possible to worship a pagan god unintentionally? Without even knowing this god ever existed in ancient minds?
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Absolutely.

Jesus references "blind leaders of the blind".

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gr8grace3 said:
Makes perfect sense. We could make ANYTHING "bad" from the Word if we take things out of context.

I could use a scripture to take the tithe(old testament) and buy strong drink and party with family. Deut 14:26

And take another and prohibit drinking.Judges 13:4
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Funny, I just quoted that,Judges13:5 for the child shall be a Nazarite.
 
gr8grace3 said:
Makes perfect sense. We could make ANYTHING "bad" from the Word if we take things out of context.

I could use a scripture to take the tithe(old testament) and buy strong drink and party with family. Deut 14:26

And take another and prohibit drinking.Judges 13:4
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Yep. That is why I asked the question about Ezek. 12:8 that was posted. Is God jealous when Christian's come together for a sunrise service to Praise and Worship Him and His Son?
Whoever this image was that was being worshiped in the temple at Jerusalem in this vision provoked God to jealousy.

Eze 8:3 And the form of a hand was put forth, and I was taken by a lock of my head; and a spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the gate of the inner court that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
 
Isaiah 30:1
Woe to the rebellious children, saith the Lord,
that take counsel, but not of me;
and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit,
that they may add sin to sin.
 
Gary said:
Actually all she did was post scripture that referenced a sunrise service. A service that was referred to as an abomination. She made no accusations. With the exception of "Also" and "Sunrise service?", everything else is scripture. Where's the accusation?

The answer to her question, "Sunrise service?" is yes. What Ezekiel described is a sunrise service.

Ezekiel 8
15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
16 And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of theLord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.


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I wasn't born yesterday, Gary.
 
ezrider said:
Isaiah 30:1
Woe to the rebellious children, saith the Lord,
that take counsel, but not of me;
and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit,
that they may add sin to sin.
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Who are these rebellious children making a covenant with?
 
Deborah13 said:
You made me put my thinking cap on.
God said at one time that men could not cut their beards a certain way or shave their heads, both because the pagans around them did that.
So clean shaven men and guys who shave their heads are participating in a pagan ritual and thus are worshiping a pagan god? Nope.
Especially if they didn't know anything about the idol.

We could worship money by putting it both God. We could worship a person by putting them before God.
But it seems to me that worship entails having some kind of direct relationship with the person/thing/god that is the focus of the worship. Does that make any sense?
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This is absolutely right. You can not unconsciously worship a false god, or the real God, for that matter. Worship is obviously a state of mind, so if it's not your intention to worship a false god, you are not doing so. It's common sense.
 
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