The root of every spiritual error

[Hopeful]

If it was "whoever is without wrong and righteous share the gospel and be a Christian", then who would be standing?.

Is this in response to the OP?

 

[Corn Pop]

Is this in response to the OP?

It's more like how some Christians judge other Christians for how Christ like they are, where if whoever is without wrong cast the first stone ,then who can share the gospel.

 

[humble soul]

For example if I preached the scripture and said "scripture says don't be a drunkard" and I was being a drunkard that's not hypocrisy, it's not my word, it's someone else who said it

I still wouldn't say that to anyone. Would you? Btw I'm having a beer right now. Here's your chance to throw a stone. A rock if you like.

 

[Corn Pop]

I still wouldn't say that to anyone. Would you? Btw I'm having a beer right now. Here's your chance to throw a stone. A rock if you like.

No, I'm not the accuser.

 

[Hopeful]

It's more like how some Christians judge other Christians for how Christ like they are, where if whoever is without wrong cast the first stone ,then who can share the gospel.

It is written that "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." (I Cor 2:15)
We are supposed to "judge"...if we are spiritual.

 

[humble soul]

We are supposed to "judge"...if we are spiritual.

You might need to give examples so I know what you mean.
If you told me you spent most of your life in prison for domestic violence, I might be tempted to judge you. But that's not good is it.

 

[Corn Pop]

It is written that "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." (I Cor 2:15)
We are supposed to "judge"...if we are spiritual.

If the Gospel of Christ is sinners saved by God's grace and mercy and whoever is without wrong cast the first stone, then all one does if they judge is condemn another because who can live up to God's righteousness?.

That verse is Christ. It is he who is without sin, it is he who no one can judge, well they can try.

Moses is the accuser for those who are under the law.

 

[Who Me]

How about if "one's understanding" is based on what Jesus taught?
Humble soul's post was too general a statement, as it only applied to some.

Believing oneself to be rightous, is not based on Jesus's teaching. The pope's saying is correct.

 

[Hopeful]

You might need to give examples so I know what you mean.
If you told me you spent most of your life in prison for domestic violence, I might be tempted to judge you. But that's not good is it.

The info you have has already led you to whatever judgement you have made.
What you do with that judgement is another thing completely.
Judgement is a reaction to what you know.
Isn't it a judgement to go out side and say "Nice day"/
Isn't it a judgement to avoid sex clubs in order to avoid temptations?
Isn't it a judgement to slow down when you feel the stop light is going to change color before you get to the intersection?

 

[Hopeful]

If the Gospel of Christ is sinners saved by God's grace and mercy and whoever is without wrong cast the first stone, then all one does if they judge is condemn another because who can live up to God's righteousness?.

That isn't the gospel I know.
Men are condemned already without our judgement, so we can't add or subtract from another's eventual disposition.
We can, however, forgive those who sin against us.

That verse is Christ. It is he who is without sin, it is he who no one can judge, well they can try.

He was the first!!!

 

[Hopeful]

Believing oneself to be righteous, is not based on Jesus's teaching. The pope's saying is correct.

Don't you believe Paul?
He wrote..."But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:" (Rom 3:21-22)
I am one who believes.

 

[Who Me]

am one who believes

Believes what? That your ideas are always right, that ideas using the bible are right or that those who humbly accept the wisdom that comes from God is right.

Quoting scripture is no certainly that the ideas being expressed are right.
Pride in our wisdom leads to error.

 

[Tessa]

Before you judge read Matthew 7:1-5

 

[JLB]

Everyone makes that claim. Yet there seems to be so many diverse interpretations.

Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
1 John 3:7

 

[Hopeful]

Believes what? That your ideas are always right, that ideas using the bible are right or that those who humbly accept the wisdom that comes from God is right.

I believe what the bible and the apostles of Jesus Christ have taught us by the power of the Holy Ghost.
What ever ideas "I" might have, if not rooted in the Holy Spirit, are tripe.

Quoting scripture is no certainly that the ideas being expressed are right.
Pride in our wisdom leads to error.

Pride in what God has accomplished leads to meekness, obedience, and reverence.
It also leads to the exhibition of love for God and neighbor.
I don't confuse "pride" with "confidence".

As for "what I believe", re. post 31, I believe that God has made those who turn from darkness righteous here on earth now.

 

[Who Me]

I believe what the bible and the apostles of Jesus Christ have taught us by the power of the Holy Ghost.
What ever ideas "I" might have, if not rooted in the Holy Spirit, are tripe.


Pride in what God has accomplished leads to meekness, obedience, and reverence.
It also leads to the exhibition of love for God and neighbor.
I don't confuse "pride" with "confidence".

As for "what I believe", re. post 31, I believe that God has made those who turn from darkness righteous here on earth now.

So you actually agree with the statement, that pride is the root of spiritual error.
Why then post against it?

 

[jerry63935]

The root of every spiritual error, is believing ourselves to be righteous.
To consider ourselves righteous, is to leave God, the only righteous one , out in the cold.

WE ARE RIGHTEOUS through Christ

 

[Hopeful]

So you actually agree with the statement, that pride is the root of spiritual error.
Why then post against it?

Is it stated that way in the bible?
The way the OP was worded actually denied the accomplishments of Jesus' death and resurrection.
ie...freeing us from sin and of the flesh.
From that perspective, I can't agree with the OP.
Jesus made it possible to be righteous, here and now, so a post casting the concept of that freedom into doubt begs for clarification.
Don't you think so too?

 

[Christ_empowered]

Work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

I get the imputed righteousness of Christ, but I also think...maybe each person's salvation is a lifelong struggle.

 

[humble soul]

Catholic works is right after all? Stairway to heaven we all must climb?