The Trinity

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You've addressed very little indeed. I wish you the best. May GOD continually guide you, and yours, and all HIS children.
Let's see...I gave two verses where Jesus claims to be the I Am; you didn't address those. I showed that even the title Son of God is a claim to deity; you didn't address that. I gave some exegesis of Phil 2:5-8; you didn't address that. I gave some exegesis of John 1:1-3, 14, and Gen 1:26-27, and mentioned a couple of other verses which supported some things I said about John 1:3; you left all of that alone. I showed that love, by definition, means that your idea of God is deficient; you very inadequately addressed that.

I didn't address your red herrings, because they have nothing to do with the truth of the Trinity. So, I'm not the one who isn't addressing things.
 
1) I am not an anti-Trinitarian. I am Trinitarian to the core.
You're not Trinitarian in any sense of the historical, orthodox, doctrine. You think you are but you're not. Again, a unitarian view of God, which you have, is antithetical to the doctrine of the Trinity.

2) You have not shown any hard evidence for your philosophy, that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are separate rather than distinct.
I have given lots, but you've ignored much I've given from the Bible and don't understand the creeds, believing they disagree with me when they certainly do not.
 
You're not Trinitarian in any sense of the historical, orthodox, doctrine. You think you are but you're not. Again, a unitarian view of God, which you have, is antithetical to the doctrine of the Trinity.


I have given lots, but you've ignored much I've given from the Bible and don't understand the creeds, believing they disagree with me when they certainly do not.
Just keep hardening your heart...your blood will not be on my head on the day of judgment.

A Trinitarian view of God is a tri-unitarian view of God.

Apparently you believe that God is only three and not that He is three-in-one.

To believe that God is one is not antithetical to the Trinity. The Trinity is the belief in one God...in three Persons...the latter of which I do not deny.

I am Trinitarian in every sense of the historical, orthodox doctrine; except that I hold to the Bible rather than the creeds as concerning Romans 1:3 and Luke 1:35.

What you say of me I can also say of you:

You're not Trinitarian in any sense of the historical, orthodox, doctrine. You think you are but you're not.

Your doctrine is a doctrine of three Lords; which is antithetical to the creeds.

You have given no hard evidence that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are separate rather than distinct.

If you have, then I would ask you to bring up one verse from the past that proves your theology and to post it below; and see if I cannot answer it.

I have answered all of your "hard evidence"...it has been shown to not be hard evidence at all.

The creeds and the Bible are clear that Jesus is the Lord (1 Corinthians 8:6, 1 Corinthians 12:3) and that there is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5). But that the Father is also the Lord (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, 2 Corinthians 6:17-18).

These things are hard evidence from my perspective that Jesus and the Father are the same Lord.

Yet you continue to deny the hard evidence.

Tell me, Free, do you confess that Jesus is the Lord in light of the following verses?

Mat 11:25, At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Luk 10:21, In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee,
O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

2Co 6:17, Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate,
saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
2Co 6:18,
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Eph 4:5, One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

If you cannot, then you do not have the Holy Ghost:

1Co 12:3, Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

And therefore do not belong to Christ:

Rom 8:9, But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Please note that I am not saying that you are not a true Christian, and thus violating the ToS, if you can confess that Jesus is the Lord in light of the verses that I quoted above; and that it is also in fact the scriptures that would tell us that you are not a true believer if you cannot confess that Jesus is the Lord in light of the above information.

So, if I am disciplined for violating ToS, it is because I have won the argument by showing that you are not a true believer for that you deny and disregard the doctrine that I have been preaching to you.
 
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All the born again are the "Temple of the Holy Spirit".

Jesus was the 2nd Adam.
Yes, but whether one is "born again" or not is not our own judgment.

It is God's call.

So we ought not to claim ourselves "born again".

It goes the same with the self-assurance of being "saved".


thank you.
 
Faith is counted as righteousness.

Its our call to believe in Jesus, and from there God does this..

Philippians 1:6
Again, It is up to God to judge if our faith is meeting His requirements.

Remember that God's standard is perfection.

thank you.
 
Again, It is up to God to judge if our faith is meeting His requirements.

God's standard is God's.

We are not like that.
We are adamic, "all have sinned'... "none are righteous, no not one".

So, we come to God as a SINNER< needing forgiveness, so that God can give us this..

"The Gift of Righteousness".
"The Gift of Salvation"

To be "born again" is to become = 'in Christ", as 'One with God".

That is the CHRISTian.
 
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