The warning of the second-coming
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no one yet has shown where Yhwh, the Creator, or Yeshua, the Sacrificed Lamb Who Suffered Humiliating and Excruciating Death as well as Horrific Treatment (including probably stoning) at the hands of man,
where anywhere in Scripture,
disobedience is permitted** in Yhwh's people , from beginning to end, anywhere.
**without chastisement, or severe penalty/punishment/discipline, or death.
where anywhere in Scripture,
disobedience is permitted** in Yhwh's people , from beginning to end, anywhere.
**without chastisement, or severe penalty/punishment/discipline, or death.
I don't know after receiving Jesus as our Savior as to getting to heaven, but some have a whole list of things they proclaim as mandatory.
i don't know about the list, or 'mandatory',
but it pays (do to the extreme and permanent cost) to look into what Scripture says, what Yhwh says,
is true about His people. vs what is true about pagans.
the description Yhwh gives of His people, is very different from all others.
and it can be quite a lengthy list(description).
just like a description of a living body, vs a description of a dead body. there are some similarities, and there are some big differences.
so too, between a dead person, and a living person -- there are some similarities(maybe many), and there are some(maybe many) differences.
noting the differences doesn't change a dead person to a living person,
noting the differences doesn't change a living person to a dead person.
the world can't tell the difference most of the time anyway, even when shown, even when someone comes back from the dead to show/tell them.
but it pays (do to the extreme and permanent cost) to look into what Scripture says, what Yhwh says,
is true about His people. vs what is true about pagans.
the description Yhwh gives of His people, is very different from all others.
and it can be quite a lengthy list(description).
just like a description of a living body, vs a description of a dead body. there are some similarities, and there are some big differences.
so too, between a dead person, and a living person -- there are some similarities(maybe many), and there are some(maybe many) differences.
noting the differences doesn't change a dead person to a living person,
noting the differences doesn't change a living person to a dead person.
the world can't tell the difference most of the time anyway, even when shown, even when someone comes back from the dead to show/tell them.
You another one that never sins? My question if you do sin, why is it that you want to?
Let's see...... As I recall, the only thing the Bible identifies as as us being able to note that a person is a Christian, is that we all have love for one another.
Is that too simple for some people? I mean do some of us here believe that there also has to be a bunch of "fruit" showing? .... and we'll do our identifying by that, instead of just "love"?
Is that too simple for some people? I mean do some of us here believe that there also has to be a bunch of "fruit" showing? .... and we'll do our identifying by that, instead of just "love"?
Oh ok so you get to heaven and there is a test on your knowledge of the Bible.If you get lower than 80% you get kicked out.
What is the difference in being rapture ready and being born again ready?If their is a rapture do you think anyone would go if they are not born again Christians?
Amplified Bible (AMP)
Book One
Psalm 1
1 Blessed (happy, fortunate, prosperous, and enviable) is the man who walks and lives not in the counsel of the ungodly [following their advice, their plans and purposes], nor stands [submissive and inactive] in the path where sinners walk, nor sits down [to relax and rest] where the scornful [and the mockers] gather.
2 But his delight and desire are in the law of the Lord, and on His law (the precepts, the instructions, the teachings of God) he habitually meditates (ponders and studies) by day and by night.
3 And he shall be like a tree firmly planted [and tended] by the streams of water, ready to bring forth its fruit in its season; its leaf also shall not fade or wither; and everything he does shall prosper [and come to maturity].
4 Not so the wicked [those disobedient and living without God are not so]. But they are like the chaff [worthless, dead, without substance] which the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the wicked [those disobedient and living without God] shall not stand [justified] in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous [those who are upright and in right standing with God].
6 For the Lord knows and is fully acquainted with the way of the righteous, but the way of the ungodly [those living outside God’s will] shall perish (end in ruin and come to nought).
Book One
Psalm 1
1 Blessed (happy, fortunate, prosperous, and enviable) is the man who walks and lives not in the counsel of the ungodly [following their advice, their plans and purposes], nor stands [submissive and inactive] in the path where sinners walk, nor sits down [to relax and rest] where the scornful [and the mockers] gather.
2 But his delight and desire are in the law of the Lord, and on His law (the precepts, the instructions, the teachings of God) he habitually meditates (ponders and studies) by day and by night.
3 And he shall be like a tree firmly planted [and tended] by the streams of water, ready to bring forth its fruit in its season; its leaf also shall not fade or wither; and everything he does shall prosper [and come to maturity].
4 Not so the wicked [those disobedient and living without God are not so]. But they are like the chaff [worthless, dead, without substance] which the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the wicked [those disobedient and living without God] shall not stand [justified] in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous [those who are upright and in right standing with God].
6 For the Lord knows and is fully acquainted with the way of the righteous, but the way of the ungodly [those living outside God’s will] shall perish (end in ruin and come to nought).
Brother, you have completely misunderstood the New Covenant and the purpose of the Holy Spirit on the inside of the believer.
Noah had no Bible.
Abraham had no Bible.
Moses had no Bible.
Saul of Tarsus had the Old Testament and knew the scriptures better than most, as he was a Pharisee of Pharisee's
And will all that scripture he was killing Christians.
The apostle Paul on the other hand, wrote most of the New Testament.
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life. John 5:39-40
JLB
because the church and pastors prior to 1830 ish didn't teach rapture ready. that is why. while we don't know what term for being saved they used , when I read the commentaries of that era is more about context and not about taking things that don't mean anything else. I like matthew henry's view of matthew 24. he basically says what god did to the Pharisees, we should heed.
Scripture actually speaks to this>(re #94)
Romans 2:13-15Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
13 For it is not merely the hearers of Torah whom God considers righteous; rather, it is the doers of what Torah says who will be made righteous in God’s sight. 14 For whenever Gentiles, who have no Torah, do naturally what the Torah requires, then these, even though they don’t have Torah, for themselves are Torah! 15 For their lives show that the conduct the Torah dictates is written in their hearts.
Romans 2:13-15Amplified Bible (AMP)
13 For it is not merely hearing the Law [read] that makes one righteous before God, but it is the doers of the Law who will be held guiltless and acquitted and justified.
14 When Gentiles who have not the [divine] Law do instinctively what the Law requires, they are a law to themselves, since they do not have the Law.
15 They show that the essential requirements of the Law are written in their hearts and are operating there, with which their consciences (sense of right and wrong) also bear witness; and their [moral] [a]decisions (their arguments of reason, their condemning or approving thoughts) will accuse or perhaps defend and excuse [them]
Romans 2:13-15Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
13 For it is not merely the hearers of Torah whom God considers righteous; rather, it is the doers of what Torah says who will be made righteous in God’s sight. 14 For whenever Gentiles, who have no Torah, do naturally what the Torah requires, then these, even though they don’t have Torah, for themselves are Torah! 15 For their lives show that the conduct the Torah dictates is written in their hearts.
Romans 2:13-15Amplified Bible (AMP)
13 For it is not merely hearing the Law [read] that makes one righteous before God, but it is the doers of the Law who will be held guiltless and acquitted and justified.
14 When Gentiles who have not the [divine] Law do instinctively what the Law requires, they are a law to themselves, since they do not have the Law.
15 They show that the essential requirements of the Law are written in their hearts and are operating there, with which their consciences (sense of right and wrong) also bear witness; and their [moral] [a]decisions (their arguments of reason, their condemning or approving thoughts) will accuse or perhaps defend and excuse [them]
and i think they all, then and since then, knew the obvious > Yeshua is going to return, come back to earth, once more, not twice more. that in itself totally overthrows the 1930'ish dream of mrs balderdash(whatever) and the pastor(s) that try to make money from it there'after.
I want to add, whenever a futurist tells me that if one don't look for the ac or such like nor teach futurism that im by implication a deceiver. which im not. if you think the older commentaries didn't have things to say about eschatology then I suggest read them.
Could I ask if you even have a short list as pertaining to anything needed besides believing on the Lord Jesus to ensure your place in heaven?