[__ Science __ ] Turns out Covid Vaccine was not tested. Phizer lied.

[JLB]

Many states are now outlawing the vaccine.

Convince them.


The lies of the bought and paid for CDC and FDA are all being exposed.

 

[Free]

The evidence is now overwhelming and growing everyday, that Covid 19 is a pandemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.


More have died from Covid that have been vaccinated.

Since I don't see any data forthcoming and Barbarian has given the answer, I'll elaborate just a little bit, as I have dealt with this several times on Facebook and I thought even here once or twice before.

There were articles that spread among news outlets late last year that as of August 2022, 58% of deaths from COVID were people who were vaccinated. Of course, a number of right wing outlets, such as the "ever reliable and trustworthy" FOX News, and individuals used this to try and prove the uselessness of vaccines. In this case, what has happened is what is known as the base rate fallacy. This can happen when people simply appeal to absolute numbers without considering the case rate, which is often per 100,000 when dealing with these large numbers.

That 58% of people who died from COVID were vaccinated tells us very little. All it tells us is that the number of vaccinated people dying from COVID was increasing. And there are reasons for that, such as variants that are better at evading immunity (both from vaccines and infection), immunity wanes (both from vaccines and infection), and the overall number of vaccinated people has increased.

At that time, according to the CDC, about 80% of the U.S. population were fully vaccinated or boosted, which means about 20% were unvaccinated. Applying just a little critical thinking, one can easily see that 41.7% of the deaths came from 20% of the (unvaccinated) population, which is much worse than 58.3% of the deaths from 80% of the (vaccinated) population. That alone tells you there is much more to it. You can even roughly estimate quite quickly and see the problem: 80/20=4 (4 times the population is vaxxed vs unvaxxed); 58.3/41.7=1.398 (how many more times the vaxxed died than unvaxxed). Therefore, 4/1.398=2.86. That is, the unvaxxed are around 2.86 times more likely to die.

The following is based on the numbers I ran, back in November, but I don't remember if the numbers were from August, September, or October. When we look at the numbers that actually matter, the death rate per 100,000, the data clearly shows that an unvaccinated person (5.35 deaths/100,000) was slightly more than twice as likely to die as someone who was vaccinated or boosted (2.65 deaths/100,000). But, even that is a bit tricky since that was only of those who get COVID. When we look at the numbers for people getting COVID in the first place, again, an unvaccinated person (1487.98 cases/100,000) was slightly more than twice as likely to get it than someone who was vaccinated (685.26 cases/100,000).

Putting those numbers together means that overall, an unvaccinated person was about 4.3 times more likely to die from COVID than a person who was vaccinated. And, remember, that is just one month. I checked my numbers at the time with what the CDC produced, and I was off by a very small margin, but that could easily be attributed to population estimates.

It is easy to see that the vaccines are still effective, the bivalent one even more so, and one is far better off to get vaccinated than not.

 

[JLB]

 

[JLB]

Since I don't see

You don’t want to see.


You we’re lied to and now the truth cant be covered over any longer.

Congratulations Free, you definitely did your part in helping big Pharma and the Globalists get rich while at the same time depopulating the earth.

 

[Barbarian]

So, now that the documented statistics show that unvaccinated people are much more likely to die of COVID-19 infections, how many You Tube videos do you think will erase reality?

 

[Barbarian]

Fact-checking the scam:

 

[Barbarian]

 

[Barbarian]

 

[Free]

I work in neurology and the year the vaccines came out we started having a slew of new patients with neurological problems. Never in the history of working there have we had so many. Not the year covid was active. Then it was unusually quiet.

How and why the covid “gene therapy” injections work is now known. Why they cause heart disease is known. Why they cause neurological disease is known. The whole mechanism is known. The US is now the ONLY country in the world requiring it for entry. Indicates a blindness to the science.

And, yet, correlation doesn't equal causation.

"How, in fact, does the pandemic virus that has so changed the world cross over into the brain after entering the respiratory system? An answer is important because neurological complaints are some of the most common in the constellation of symptoms called long COVID. The mystery centers around the fact that brain cells don’t display the receptors, or docking sites, that the virus uses to get into nasal and lung cells."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...-tunnel-through-nanotubes-from-nose-to-brain/

We know that even mild cases of COVID cause long COVID:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...s-6-months-later-study-finds/?sh=15980bb6563f

We also know that onset of post-COVID symptoms can even be delayed:
https://casereports.bmj.com/content/14/1/e240178
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33708732/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33535011/
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-care/post-covid-conditions.html
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/942720

Your anecdotal findings could be due to any number of reasons, not the least of which are delays in symptoms (new symptoms showing up months later), a different variant, etc.

 

[Free]

You don’t want to see.

All I see is that you took my statement completely out of context, much like you do with certain verses from Scripture.

I am asking you for data to back up your assertion. It is very telling that you have not done so.

You we’re lied to and now the truth cant be covered over any longer.

Congratulations Free, you definitely did your part in helping big Pharma and the Globalists get rich while at the same time depopulating the earth.

The virus sure killed a lot of people, and being unvaccinated contributes the most to that, by quite a margin. So, it's you who supports depopulating the earth. And you would rather companies not make money on a product they have produced, at significant cost, and should just give it away, at an even more significant cost, out of the goodness of their socialist hearts. That makes you an anti-capitalist.

I guess I'll be waiting a very long time for data to back up your previous assertion.

 

[JLB]

All I see is that you took my statement completely out of context, much like you do with certain verses from Scripture.

I am asking you for data to back up your assertion. It is very telling that you have not done so.


The virus sure killed a lot of people, and being unvaccinated contributes the most to that, by quite a margin. So, it's you who supports depopulating the earth. And you would rather companies not make money on a product they have produced, at significant cost, and should just give it away, at an even more significant cost, out of the goodness of their socialist hearts. That makes you an anti-capitalist.

I guess I'll be waiting a very long time for data to back up your previous assertion.

Again, you don’t need to convince me, it’s all the news stations and doctors and hospitals and the millions of people who have lost loved ones to vaccine injury, and state legislatures who are outlawing the vaccine in their state.



JLB

 

[Free]

Again, you don’t need to convince me, it’s all the news stations and doctors and hospitals and the millions of people who have lost loved ones to vaccine injury, and state legislatures who are outlawing the vaccine in their state.

That is not at all what we were discussing. I was quite clearly addressing your comments:

"The evidence is now overwhelming and growing everyday, that Covid 19 is a pandemic of the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated."

"More have died from Covid that have been vaccinated."

That what I asked for data for. Vaccine injuries don't even figure into that discussion. Or, are you trying to change the topic because you have no data? If you have realized you are wrong, then at least admit it before changing the topic.

 

[Barbarian]

And, yet, correlation doesn't equal causation.

"How, in fact, does the pandemic virus that has so changed the world cross over into the brain after entering the respiratory system? An answer is important because neurological complaints are some of the most common in the constellation of symptoms called long COVID. The mystery centers around the fact that brain cells don’t display the receptors, or docking sites, that the virus uses to get into nasal and lung cells."

Yep. Turns out, COVID-19 infection often has long-term neurological consequences...

Neurol Sci J
2022 Mar 15;434:120162

Mid and long-term neurological and neuropsychiatric manifestations of post-COVID-19 syndrome: A meta-analysis ​

Of 1458 articles, 19 studies, encompassing a total of 11,324 patients, were analysed. Overall prevalence for neurological post-COVID-19 symptoms were: fatigue (37%, 95% CI: 24%-50%), brain fog (32%, 9%-55%), memory issues (27%, 18%-36%), attention disorder (22%, 10%-34%), myalgia (18%, 4%-32%), anosmia (12%, 7%-17%), dysgeusia (11%, 4%-17%) and headache (10%, 1%-21%). Neuropsychiatric conditions included sleep disturbances (31%, 18%-43%), anxiety (23%, 13%-33%) and depression (12%, 7%-21%). Neuropsychiatric symptoms substantially increased in prevalence between mid- and long-term follow-up.
Conclusions and relevance: Fatigue, cognitive dysfunction (brain fog, memory issues, attention disorder) and sleep disturbances appear to be key features of post-COVID-19 syndrome. Psychiatric manifestations (sleep disturbances, anxiety, and depression) are common and increase significantly in prevalence over time. Randomised controlled trials are necessary to develop intervention strategy to reduce disease burden.
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The neurological side effects reported due to SARS-CoV-2 vaccination are generally mild, self-limiting, of short duration, and manageable. However, in a few cases, these side effects were found to be severe and could require hospitalization or admission to intensive care units (ICU).

Can COVID-19 vaccination lead to neurological complications?

A new review article discusses the neurological side effects due to SARS-CoV-2 vaccination.

www.news-medical.net

Realistically, it appears that Guillon-Barre syndrome is the most significant known side effect (which has been noted for other virus vaccines). But the incidence is very rare, compared to the frequent neurological symptoms documented in people who had been infected by the virus.

EID Journal Volume 27 Number 12—December 2021

Guillain-Barré Syndrome Associated with COVID-19 Vaccination ​

After a systematic review of published literature (Figure), we included 17 publications reporting an additional 38 cases of GBS related to COVID-19 vaccination (India, 10 cases; United Kingdom, 11 cases; Mexico, 7 cases; United States, 3 cases; France, 1 case; Italy, 3 cases; Malta, 1 case; Turkey, 1 case; and Qatar, 1 case) (Appendix Table). Including the case in Taiwan, these 39 cases occurred in persons with a mean age of 57.8 (range 20–86) years; 56.4% were male. Most of the reported case-patients received ChAdOx1-S (25/39), followed by BNT162b2 (12/39) (Pfizer-BioNTech, https://www.pfizer.comExternal Link), Ad26.COV2.S (1/39) (Johnson & Johnson, https://www.jnj.comExternal Link), and CoronaVac (1/39) (Sinovac Biotech, http://www.sinovac.comExternal Link). The GBS rate after COVID-19 vaccination ranged from 1.8 to 53.2 cases/1 million doses.

 

[Barbarian]

state legislatures who are outlawing the vaccine in their state.

Which state legislature has outlawed the COVID-19 vaccine? I think someone has pulled a fast one on you.

millions of people who have lost loved ones to vaccine injury

Even the VAERS database ( to which anyone can submit a report, with no confirmation) lists only about 3,000 deaths (out of about 270,000,000 people vaccinated. So about one death in 90,000 people taking the vaccine, even if all of those stories turn out to be true.

So, you were misled on that one, too.

 

[hawkman]

Vision Impairments in Patients After COVID-19 Vaccination, Doctors Caution Possible Risks

From the link above .

Reports of Unusual Visual and Neurological Symptoms in the Vaccinated​

Alabama-based neurologist and neuroradiologist Dr. Diane Counce told The Epoch Times that since the vaccine rollouts, she has also seen many patients who, after vaccination, would develop migraines, or experience a worsening or increased frequency of symptoms. These migraines would often manifest with temporary blindness.

Counce’s clinic has treated around 300 long-haul and postvaccine patients, and she has noticed that her long-COVID patients tend to have symptom presentations that are more understood, “more textbook presentation,” while the patients who developed symptoms after vaccination may develop more severe and unexplainable symptoms.

 

[Barbarian]

There will always be some risk to vaccinations. Guillon-Barre syndrome is a bad one. But there's good news, there too.

The GBS rate after COVID-19 vaccination ranged from 1.8 to 53.2 cases/1 million doses.

Which is orders of magnitude lower than the more serious consequences of COVID-19 infection.

 

[JLB]

Which state legislature has outlawed the COVID-19 vaccine? I think someone has pulled a fast one on you.

Even the VAERS database ( to which anyone can submit a report, with no confirmation) lists only about 3,000 deaths (out of about 270,000,000 people vaccinated. So about one death in 90,000 people taking the vaccine, even if all of those stories turn out to be true.

So, you were misled on that one, too.

I don’t care what VAERS or CNN or MSNBC or the CDC has to say, since they have all been lying so they can get their payoff from big Pharma at the expense of millions of lives across this nation.


Please use your “arguments“ to convince the millions of people who have lost loved ones, and the courts who are passing laws to outlaw the “vaccine”, and the doctors and hospitals and courts across this land who have discovered the truth.

The Covid 19 Vaccine is poison. It’s always been poison.

It was designed to undermine the human immune system for the purpose of Global Depopulation.


The “Vaccine” doesn’t prevent a person from getting the disease, or dying from the disease or spreading the disease.


It’s not a Vaccine. It’s the Pandemic.

Covid 19 was not the Pandemic.

The Vaccine is the Pandemic.


The main methods that are being used to bring about “population control” the title used for DEPOPULATION is:


Famine
War
Abortion
Eugenics
Pestilence (Pandemic)

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JLB

 

[Free]

I don’t care what VAERS or CNN or MSNBC or the CDC has to say, since they have all been lying so they can get their payoff from big Pharma at the expense of millions of lives across this nation.


Please use your “arguments“ to convince the millions of people who have lost loved ones, and the courts who are passing laws to outlaw the “vaccine”, and the doctors and hospitals and courts across this land who have discovered the truth.

The Covid 19 Vaccine is poison. It’s always been poison.

It was designed to undermine the human immune system for the purpose of Global Depopulation.


The “Vaccine” doesn’t prevent a person from getting the disease, or dying from the disease or spreading the disease.


It’s not a Vaccine. It’s the Pandemic.

Covid 19 was not the Pandemic.

The Vaccine is the Pandemic.


The main methods that are being used to bring about “population control” the title used for DEPOPULATION is:


Famine
War
Abortion
Eugenics
Pestilence (Pandemic)

Shocking New Study Reveals Covid Jabs Are Actually 'Weapons of Mass Depopulation'

Advertising enquiries: sponsor@thepeoplesvoice.tv Depopulation and eugenics are taboo subjects that provoke horror and disgust in ordinary people with normal values and morals. A glance at history sho

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This is conspiracy theory, nothing more. If the vaccine was meant for population control, it did a terrible job, as few lost their lives from them. There is absolutely no way that millions have died from the vaccines. Millions have died from COVID-19, however, and even if a person were to argue that that was meant as population control, they did a terrible job.

You really need to apply some critical thinking to these things and learn to think through to the logical conclusions.

 

[JLB]

This is conspiracy theory, nothing more. If the vaccine was meant for population control, it did a terrible job, as few lost their lives from them. There is absolutely no way that millions have died from the vaccines. Millions have died from COVID-19, however, and even if a person were to argue that that was meant as population control, they did a terrible job.

You really need to apply some critical thinking to these things and learn to think through to the logical conclusions.

Right! Got it.

Nothing to see. Nothing to understand. Only ignore and deny.

 

[Barbarian]

I don’t care what VAERS or CNN or MSNBC or the CDC has to say, since they have all been lying so they can get their payoff from big Pharma at the expense of millions of lives across this nation.

I don't think "They are all lying!" is an effective argument, particularly in the absence of evidence.

Please use your “arguments“ to convince the millions of people who have lost loved ones

That's your first problem. No one can show that "millions of people" died from the vaccines. Even the most inflated estimate is three orders of magnitude smaller than your claim.

The Covid 19 Vaccine is poison. It’s always been poison.

Odd then, that about 270,000,000 Americans have gotten the vaccines and as you realize, only a tiny minority of them died. Less than would be expected from a sample that large by chance.

It was designed to undermine the human immune system for the purpose of Global Depopulation.

If so, it backfired big time. The death rate for those who took the vaccine is a fraction of the death rate for those who did not.

Covid 19 was not the Pandemic.

That's what's killing people. No point in denial.

The main methods that are being used to bring about “population control” the title used for DEPOPULATION is:

Imaginary, mostly. Notice that nations with low birth rates are offering all sorts of financial and social benefits to people who have children.