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No, I'm hung up on what it literally does for the person doing it, and that it is commanded to do so. And what it does is not what people who say we don't have to do it says it does. It is not done for the purpose of justification.
This has zero illustrative value in regard to the act of getting water baptized. It has much value in regard to what it's actually talking about. And it ain't water baptism.
ever get the feeling that they was more zeroed in on you than any thing else..my post of request for scripture must be invisible
your answer is not bible
i will read it .but i dont really want your pastors thoughtsMay be if you look at our church web, it can help explain to you what I am trying to say ?
I sure hope you will try ! Thank you
http://www.rightlydividing.org/grace.html
so your following a pastor that is in another state? i read his article on baptism belongs to the children of Israeli ..i dont agree with it as per phone call i have a cell phone plus unlimited long distance. i have no desire to call a stranger i dont even know . i listen to other ministers .but they are not my home church.my family and i attends a local church
It must be the invisible web ink you're using.
Good, level-headed article.
If somebody had taught them correctly about the meaning of water baptism all believers would get water baptized. But these very poor, misguided understandings of water baptism rob believers from recognizing God's command for the nations to be water baptized and it's importance in the life of the believer.
What value is there in telling believers they do not have to be water baptized?
You must be understanding that as some kind of justification in preparation for, or as a condition to, getting saved by Jesus. It's not. Peter plainly tells us it's "the pledge of a clear conscience toward God" (1 Peter 3:21 NASB). How in heaven or earth does that get replaced by the Holy Spirit?
ughhhhh honestly i say this as nice and respectful as i can. your not getting the point about baptism ..wake up and READ what has been posted please. BAPTISM DOES NOT SAVE US. it is a answering of a good conscience . did you read my previous post on symbolic just like communion ?????? on my part if i am fail to explain something please show me and i will try to explain it in a better way. my goodness once again read very close water baptism follows salvation --not salvation follows water baptism. { John 14:20 On that day(the day you are baptized into the Spirit) you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.} baptism of the spirit takes place the moment one gets saved. water baptism follows after one get saved. . why are you and grams getting the 2 mixed up? its either A. you don't understand or B YOU REFUSE TO understand or C . YOU want to argue just to have something to do. i like a good bible discussion but so far you have not even posted one scripture. that says there is no need to be baptized in most forums you post scripture to back up your post
please give scripture showing water baptism is void in them exact words thank you :amen
i thought it explained it rather well