Bible Study WELCOME TO A DEEP LOOK AT GENESIS

[Chopper]

Tomorrows Study: 5/18/14 Genesis 14:1-16 Abram to the rescue.

 

[TOG]

Sarai probably didn't let him forget it for a while

Women are like elephants in that respect, although you probably shouldn't tell them that.

The TOG​

 

[Chopper]

OH, oh, I see a rolling pin or a chair coming.

 

[reba]

 

[Eugene]

Well Brother Chopper, I don’t see where Sarah was any different than the rest of us saved by grace. She was a liar just like us. David said all men are liars in Psa 116:11.

Gen 18:15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid (Liar, liar, pants on fire just like Abraham was when he gave Sarah to the Egyptians). And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh.
I think she probably swallowed humble pie and said something along the lines of David below. I know that has been reflected in my life. I sure was not godly.
Psa 116:12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me?
Psa 116:13 I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the LORD.

And even then later she still doesn’t get it when Hagar came along. Godly? Only by grace are we seen, and are kept in Christ Jesus.

As to the situation with Abraham and Lot concerning the herdsmen and the grazing of cattle, both had great herds and there was probably overgrazing when they would vie for the best pastures. I do admire the stand Abraham made in conceding the decision to God as it were, and as usual Canaan is where God wanted him anyway. Lot chose the world, and it always looks good even to the worldly Christian. Some think Lot was not of God? Well 2 Pet 2:7 says he was. And delivered just (Righteous) Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

 

[Chopper]

Well Brother Chopper, I don’t see where Sarah was any different than the rest of us saved by grace. She was a liar just like us. David said all men are liars in Psa 116:11.

Gen 18:15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid (Liar, liar, pants on fire just like Abraham was when he gave Sarah to the Egyptians). And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh.
I think she probably swallowed humble pie and said something along the lines of David below. I know that has been reflected in my life. I sure was not godly.
Psa 116:12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me?
Psa 116:13 I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the LORD.

And even then later she still doesn’t get it when Hagar came along. Godly? Only by grace are we seen, and are kept in Christ Jesus.

As to the situation with Abraham and Lot concerning the herdsmen and the grazing of cattle, both had great herds and there was probably overgrazing when they would vie for the best pastures. I do admire the stand Abraham made in conceding the decision to God as it were, and as usual Canaan is where God wanted him anyway. Lot chose the world, and it always looks good even to the worldly Christian. Some think Lot was not of God? Well 2 Pet 2:7 says he was. And delivered just (Righteous) Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

Wow, kinda ruff on Sarai?

 

[reba]

She submitted to her husband,,,

 

[TOG]

Are women supposed to submit to their older brothers, like Sarah did, or is that just when they're also their husbands? I'd like to know, because I have a younger sister.

The TOG​

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

Are women supposed to submit to their older brothers, like Sarah did, or is that just when they're also their husbands? I'd like to know, because I have a younger sister.

The TOG​

yes. .... ... have to add also ... younger brothers, not just sisters, must(willingly, without grudges) submit to older brothers also.

 

[Eugene]

She submitted to her husband,,,

reba, as Sarah submitted, so did Abraham. Gen 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, . . . hearken unto her voice . .

What I was attempting to say is that Abraham, Sarah, the Spirit and the flesh, and their righteousness was in none other thing they did but believing God, and righteousness was imputed unto them.

The things they failed at were common to both of them; Sarah doubted concerning Hagar, and Abraham should never have gone along with her suggestion. God in all these things was delivering them from the world, and their lives were examples or types of the things we enter into in Christ.

Hopefully Chopper I would never be against Sarah, but apply the lessons found in their walks to establish my own in submitting to the Spirit, and not the flesh. Rom 8:4.

 

[reba]

I agree with ya Eugene i was just sticking up for Sarah cus the guys are trying to justify Abrams actions... :wink
A married woman submission to her brother?

My brother tried that once.

 

[His_nee (Jeff)]

no, not referring to a married woman, unless /when the husband /and father/ are gone.

 

[reba]

 

[Deborah13]

Well Brother Chopper, I don’t see where Sarah was any different than the rest of us saved by grace. She was a liar just like us. David said all men are liars in Psa 116:11.

Gen 18:15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid (Liar, liar, pants on fire just like Abraham was when he gave Sarah to the Egyptians). And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh.
I think she probably swallowed humble pie and said something along the lines of David below. I know that has been reflected in my life. I sure was not godly.
Psa 116:12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me?
Psa 116:13 I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the LORD.

And even then later she still doesn’t get it when Hagar came along. Godly? Only by grace are we seen, and are kept in Christ Jesus.

As to the situation with Abraham and Lot concerning the herdsmen and the grazing of cattle, both had great herds and there was probably overgrazing when they would vie for the best pastures. I do admire the stand Abraham made in conceding the decision to God as it were, and as usual Canaan is where God wanted him anyway. Lot chose the world, and it always looks good even to the worldly Christian. Some think Lot was not of God? Well 2 Pet 2:7 says he was. And delivered just (Righteous) Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

Yep Sarah lied and Abraham didn't that I know of.......Did Abraham always believe God?

Gen 17:17 Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?

However, we need to be careful not to add to scripture as it does not tell us if Abraham broke
his nose when he fell. :shades

 

[Eugene]

I agree with ya Eugene i was just sticking up for Sarah cus the guys are trying to justify Abrams actions... :wink
A married woman submission to her brother?

My brother tried that once.

I thought Hitch called the shots.

 

[Eugene]

Did Abraham always believe God?

Hi Sister Deborah, there is various thoughts concerning Abraham before God called him, but I'll just give the following scripture.
Joshua 24:2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods. Evidently they were religious.

 

[TOG]

Well Brother ChopperGen 18:15(Liar, liar, pants on fire just like Abraham was when he gave Sarah to the Egyptians).

Emphasis by TOG)

But Abram didn't lie then. Sarai was his sister (Gen. 20:12).

The TOG​

 

[reba]

I have been blessed with 3 brothers...

 

[reba]

Emphasis by TOG)

But Abram didn't lie then. Sarai was his sister (Gen. 20:12).

The TOG​

Abraham the first politician ...

 

[agua.]

Abraham the first politician ...

:D Now that's a low blow.