What Does it Mean to be Saved?

[humble soul]

not my version but scripture plainly tells us. you fall for so much wind doctrine your not even sure

Sorry we might be going off course here.
Look at the Book of Job. So many interpretations and conclusions. So we argue over what it means to be saved.

 

[humble soul]

jerry63935

Don't let humble soul drag you into to much of a conversation of disagreeing.
He has kind of a TWISTED sense of humor, known in my day as a "MAYTAG", because
he's a bit of an "AGITATOR" . HEE HEE HEE

Mt name is OLIGOS

Don't let oligos make you feel like He is better than you. He lacks insight.

My name is Humilios

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

Don't let oligos make you feel like He is better than you. He lacks insight.

My name is Humilios

humble soul
Your absolutely right Humilos.

I do lack insight as we all do, maybe more than most, that's why we need each other, as God said to "sharpen one another".

As far as being better than anyone here - I'm less than most, and just grateful God
doesn't hold my life against me.

Like you I am forgiven, but only by His GRACE and MERCY.
Love you my friend.
My name is OLIGOS

 

[humble soul]

humble soul
Your absolutely right Humilos.

I do lack insight as we all do, maybe more than most, that's why we need each other, as God said to "sharpen one another".

As far as being better than anyone here - I'm less than most, and just grateful God
doesn't hold my life against me.

Like you I am forgiven, but only by His GRACE and MERCY.
Love you my friend.
My name is OLIGOS

More humble posts like this would be nice. You are getting there. But not quite yet....oh lord it's hard to be humble......

My name is undecided

 

[jerry63935]

So we argue over what it means to be saved.

saved from our sins saved from eternal wrath the lake of fire / eternal damnation.. and you dont want to be serious...

 

[humble soul]

saved from our sins saved from eternal wrath the lake of fire / eternal damnation.. and you dont want to be serious...

Does Jerry want to threaten Hell and damnation? That might be a clincher

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

humble soul

I love the way you attack me and try to discredit me any way you can.

God seems to be using you to strengthen me even more than I have been in the past,
by the persecutions I have endured many years.
God must be getting me ready for a higher calling..

Please do me a favor and keep it up as long as you can, as I now look forward to your
posts to me, as it helps me to be the Christian God wants me to be.

Love you even more now.
My name is OLIGOS

 

[humble soul]

Love you even more now.

You don't pull the wool over my eyes sir. But I bet you've managed to fool everyone else.

 

[Seasoned by Grace]

You don't pull the wool over my eyes sir. But I bet you've managed to fool everyone else.

humble soul
Sooo...in what way have I fooled everyone.
Why not be specific and if you have charges against me, spell them all out
in front of everyone here, so they all know what your talking about, and how bad you think I am.
I know that stovebolts and JLB , and for_his_glory are personal friends of yours, and maybe you can have me removed from this forum, for whatever you think is so bad about me.

I don't mind being asked to leave, if my being here is a problem.

I'm not here for myself, I came here to make a positive difference for others, and if that's not happening,
maybe I should just leave on my own.

What do you think humble soul, should I just walk away quietly right now??

My name is ??????

 

[humble soul]

spell them all out

ive spelt them out. Then you go into anti Humble Soul campaign mode saying i am attacking you. best we minimise our communication hence forth oligos. ive tried to put you on ignore. no success yet. these differences happen on forums. especially those of us who post a lot/daily, it is bound to happen sooner or later. hoping i can sign off here .

 

[humble soul]

I'm not here for myself, I came here to make a positive difference for others, and if that's not happening,

this is where I suggest you may lack some insight. Even stove bolts is here for himself a little. Yes he is here for God. and he is performing a great service to his members. but occasionally he likes to kick back and enjoy. share a laugh. thats human. so we all should be here to have "some" fun, "some" joy. Doesnt God want us to enjoy ourselves a little? Yes of course he does. he doesnt want us to be self sacrificing saints....in my opinion. unless you enjoy being a saint. thats different. at any rate he doesnt want joyless saints....imo.

 

[JLB]

I don't mind being asked to leave, if my being here is a problem.

I'm not here for myself, I came here to make a positive difference for others, and if that's not happening,
maybe I should just leave on my own.

Personally, I think you have been a positive influence on me.


JLB

 

[JLB]

I know that @stovebolts and @JLB , and @for_his_glory are personal friends of yours,

stovebolts , JLB and for_his_glory are friends of yours.


We love you and think you are doing a good job.


Amen.



JLB

 

[JLB]

You don't pull the wool over my eyes sir. But I bet you've managed to fool everyone else.

Let’s not go there please air.


Please just address the post not the person, please.



JLB

 

[JLB]

My name is ??????

OLIGOS



Amen.



JLB

 

[JLB]

Does Jerry want to threaten Hell and damnation? That might be a clincher

Jerry is not threatening anything. The Bible surely does mention hell and the lake of fire.

A very sober subject, one that can do without sarcasm.



JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

To me this is a simple but great CONTROVERSIAL question and topic.

For me, as an older believer, when I met the lord in 1978, the popular term of the day was "CONVERTED" or "BELIEVED".
You never heard the term "SAVED".
It just was never used.
In my recollection of my years past, it wasn't until the last 15 years or so, probably during the advent and increased popularity of the computor, that the term SAVED started being used for "CONVERSION" more and more almost universally.

And the word SAVED to me, is by far the more correct term than being converted.

As I'v gotten older, I have noticed more and more varying doctrinal beliefs of being saved.
And for me, I've decided what that means to be saved that works for me, after studying salvation as a major topic for myself, that is connected to almost every other topic in the bible.
Kind of like LOVE is a subject connected to nearly every topic in the bible - at least from my studies.

I'm not a RULE KEEPER or a LEGALIST that has a LIST I have to maintain, to stay in God's good graces.
I don't have to believe the same way as everyone else in a church to be accepted or fit in.
I don't have to believe the same way or the same things to be on a forum, or be in a men's bible study or Christian bible study class.

Over many years, I have come to the conclusion that my faith is incredibly personal, and it's only me who will stand before my JUDGE, all by myself, with no one there to support me, as I give an account for my entire life.

No matter where you go or who you talk to, there will always be a myriad of answers to this controversial question.

For me there is JUST ONE ANSWER that I can live with happily, as the foundation of my faith, that I can grow from, and what I believe is in UNITY and HARMONY with the rest of the entire bible as a whole story to all mankind from God, but I doubt it will fit in with many others beliefs.

I'll tell people what I believe and why, but I won't expect anyone else to believe what I believe, just to satisfy ME.

What we all believe is ultimately between God and ourselves.
So I hope no one comes here telling us what they believe and get really upset and feel rejected because we don't accept their theories, or come here thinking there going to set everyone straight on the way everything Christian SHOULD BE, or come here with a low self worth thinking that in their imagined wisdom, everyone will look up to them.

Seen all that many, many times in all kinds of settings, and to this day, I only saw someone who was all about themselves, with no God involved whatsoever.

God bless you all as you search for your own personal answers.
My name is OLIGOS

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Unless we be converted (Spiritually renewed within our inner man by that of God's Spirit) we can not see the kingdom of God, John 3:3, nor be spared from eternal damnation, John 5:28, 29. God's plan of salvation is through Christ Jesus through God's grace that all who will believe and accept Him as Lord and Savior, as He is our faith and hope, will have eternal life with Him, John 3:16. It's all about having a personal relationship with Him as everyone's is different than another's in how we seek Him and fellowship with Him.

What we are to endure until the end are all the trials and tribulations as Satan tries to buffet our witness and testimony of Christ as he uses many to come against us in order to steal our faith, John 10:10. Many throughout history have died for their faith in Christ and will continue to do so until the day He returns. It is those who endure having faith and hope in Christ Jesus that will be gathered to Him on the great and terrible day of the Lord, Joel 2:31; Matthew 24:29-31; Acts 2:20, 21.

We share and discuss our beliefs in the word of God and some are right and some are wrong, but yet it is up to each one individually to search out the truths by taking the scriptures given and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal all truths.


1 John 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
1 John 2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Children of God
1 John 2:28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

 

[for_his_glory]

Your version of scripture

Hebrews 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

 

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The title of this thread was one asked by a nonbeliever in the Questions From Seekers forum and it brought about some debate among a few members of CFnet. The Seeker's forum rules don't allow for debate so I have started this discussion thread and moved many of the posts from the Seeker's forum to here so the discussion may continue. Please remember the rules of this Theology forum do apply. Hopefully, I didn't mess things up too bad.