What is blasphemy of The Holy Spirit?

[Joe67]

The unforgiveable sin can only be committed by the elect and only in the end of days....

13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

That "hour" is Satan's hour of temptation. So, to premeditate or to not allow ourselves to be delivered during that time or to speak our own mind would be to committ the unforgiveable sin.

Despising the spirit of grace/election/foreknowledge.

Heb 10:26-29
26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? NAS

Grace is the light of God's choice/election. God's purpose is manifested in his electing work. His electing work is out of his foreknowledge. This foreknowledge is God's planned parenthood. It is the Father's plan for the family of Jesus' eternal priesthood.

Heb 2:11-13
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me. KJV

He who blasphemes against Jesus' family of priests, is blaspheming against the body, the temple of the holy Spirit, and there remains no more sacrifice for this sin.

Joe

 

[whirlwind]

The unforgiveable sin can only be committed by the elect and only in the end of days....

13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

That "hour" is Satan's hour of temptation. So, to premeditate or to not allow ourselves to be delivered during that time or to speak our own mind would be to committ the unforgiveable sin.

Despising the spirit of grace/election/foreknowledge.

Heb 10:26-29
26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain terrifying expectation of judgment, and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? NAS

Grace is the light of God's choice/election. God's purpose is manifested in his electing work. His electing work is out of his foreknowledge. This foreknowledge is God's planned parenthood. It is the Father's plan for the family of Jesus' eternal priesthood.

Heb 2:11-13
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me. KJV

He who blasphemes against Jesus' family of priests, is blaspheming against the body, the temple of the holy Spirit, and there remains no more sacrifice for this sin.
Joe

There are many that will and are speaking against the body of Christ but they are misled through false doctrine and/or false teachers. Unless they change they will not be of the first resurrection but...they are not doing anything that is unforgiveable.

However, for an elect to not allow the Holy Spirit to speak through them in the end of days, which is what the destiny of an elect is....would be unforgiveable. For that reason He protects many by blinding them. If one of the elect didn't allow this then the elect would be "sinning wilfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth."

 

[xspinningisfun]

There is the key right there. They witnessed Him performing these miracles, firsthand, in the flesh and still they denied Him and the power given to Him via the Holy Spirit. This is why I believe what I believe.

The sin is saying someone thinking that Jesus got his power from the Devil, not the Holy Spirit.
I've denied Christ....God doesn't say that if we deny God, that we're going to hell. I mean, Peter denied him 3 times. We've all, at one point, been ashamed of God because we didn't want people to make fun of us. But that sin can be forgiven. Should you keep denying him? NO. God told us that if we deny him, he will also deny us in front of the father. But the blasphemy of the holy spirit is saying that Jesus is performing miracles through Satan's powers. and THAT sin, that sin CANNOT be forgiven.

 

[Vic C.]

There is the key right there. They witnessed Him performing these miracles, firsthand, in the flesh and still they denied Him and the power given to Him via the Holy Spirit. This is why I believe what I believe.

The sin is saying someone thinking that Jesus got his power from the Devil, not the Holy Spirit.
I've denied Christ....God doesn't say that if we deny God, that we're going to hell. I mean, Peter denied him 3 times. We've all, at one point, been ashamed of God because we didn't want people to make fun of us. But that sin can be forgiven. Should you keep denying him? NO. God told us that if we deny him, he will also deny us in front of the father. But the blasphemy of the holy spirit is saying that Jesus is performing miracles through Satan's powers. and THAT sin, that sin CANNOT be forgiven.

Well I thought that was what I was saying. I left out the satan part because I assumed that was a given. I still stand by my belief that this is a sin that cannot be committed simply because Jesus is no longer here,in person, performing miracles. He is seated at the right hand of the Father and is preparing a place for all of us as we live and breathe.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2272

CAN THE UNPARDONABLE SIN BE COMMITTED TODAY?

The next question usually asked concerning this sin is whether or not it is still possible to commit it today. Opinions on this question certainly vary, and scholars seem to be divided in their positions. The evidence, however, seems to point toward the idea that this sin cannot be committed today.

First, the circumstances under which the sin is described cannot prevail today, due to the fact that the age of miracles has ceased (see Miller, 2003). No one today will have the opportunity to witness Jesus performing miracles in person (2 Corinthians 5:16).

Second, there is no other mention of the sin in any biblical passage written after the resurrection of Christ. None of the inspired New Testament writers refers to the sin in any epistle or in the book of Acts, and none offers warnings to new converts about avoiding the sin post-Pentecost. Franklin observed:

If it were possible for it to be committed, would there not have been some warning against it? Were there any danger regarding it, would the Apostle Paul, who wrote half the books of the New Testament, have failed to warn against its commission? Paul does not even mention the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The sin in question was actually committed in the days of our Lord’s ministry on earth, but it does not necessarily follow that it could be committed in His absence (p. 233)

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2272

To prove that this was a sin for those who in Jesus' time, accused Him of doing the work of the devil, but not a sin after the Resurrection, Paul said this:

1 Tim 1:12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
1 Tim 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

We know these things to be true by the account given in Acts pertaining to Saul, yet Jesus did forgive him. Great things happened to Paul after he was forgiven and saved. If this was still an unforgivable sin in Paul's time, how is it he was forgiven?

 

[MarkT]

What is it? Is it completely turning away from God and not asking for God's Forgiveness anymore? Is it being legalistic?

I am confused. Knowledge appreciated, fellow-Christians.

It's saying the servant of the Lord has a demon and he serves Satan.

 

[MarkT]

So any time you judge your brethren - calling your brother a liar and a servant of the devil - you are not judging him; you are judging the Spirit of God in him. You are not doing injury to your brother, as Jesus said, you can say what you want against him, but when you call him a liar who serves God, you are sinning against the Spirit of God, who is doing the work in him. You are calling God a liar.

In any way, if you take the Spirit of God for Satan, and you accuse his servant of doing evil, then you are blaspheming the Spirit.

 

[Joe67]

The unforgiveable sin can only be committed by the elect and only in the end of days....

However, for an elect to not allow the Holy Spirit to speak through them in the end of days, which is what the destiny of an elect is....would be unforgiveable. For that reason He protects many by blinding them. If one of the elect didn't allow this then the elect would be "sinning wilfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth."

Judas is an example of someone who was foreordained to this sin. Loving mammon more than God and betraying Jesus and his family. The Judas principle is like the one man who came into the wedding feast with his own clothing of unbelief concerning the purpose of God in the priesthood of Jesus. Annanias and Saphirra are another example of lying to the holy Spirit, when they lied concerning the money they had promised.

Achan loved mammon, but when confronted with his sin, he confessed his sin and accepted the punishment from his brethren. The valley of Achor is a door of hope. We have all sinned this sin and come short of the glory of God. When God reproves us, he gives us repentance and the promise of forgiveness, as God gave to King David when he numbered Israel. God has now revealed that his repentance and forgiveness is given to us in Jesus, his holy child, whom he raised from the dead, a priest forever after the order of Melchizedec, in whom he has made us accepted IN the Beloved, without money and without price(tithe and required offering).

Joe

 

[whirlwind]

Judas is an example of someone who was foreordained to this sin. Loving mammon more than God and betraying Jesus and his family. The Judas principle is like the one man who came into the wedding feast with his own clothing of unbelief concerning the purpose of God in the priesthood of Jesus. Annanias and Saphirra are another example of lying to the holy Spirit, when they lied concerning the money they had promised.

Achan loved mammon, but when confronted with his sin, he confessed his sin and accepted the punishment from his brethren. The valley of Achor is a door of hope. We have all sinned this sin and come short of the glory of God. When God reproves us, he gives us repentance and the promise of forgiveness, as God gave to King David when he numbered Israel. God has now revealed that his repentance and forgiveness is given to us in Jesus, his holy child, whom he raised from the dead, a priest forever after the order of Melchizedec, in whom he has made us accepted IN the Beloved, without money and without price(tithe and required offering).

Joe

Hi Joe, :amen

I enjoyed your post. You have given us examples of sinning but still....none of them are unforgiveable. Judas himself repented....is he condemned? I don't know.

There is only one sin that will not be forgiven.

 

[xspinningisfun]

Well I thought that was what I was saying. I left out the satan part because I assumed that was a given. I still stand by my belief that this is a sin that cannot be committed simply because Jesus is no longer here,in person, performing miracles. He is seated at the right hand of the Father and is preparing a place for all of us as we live and breathe.

^ohh okay. my bad! hahaha. i thought you disagreed. sorry!

 

[Elijah674]

1 John 5:16-17 says that there is a sin unto death & a sin not unto death for the Christian. All sin leads to death the first time. The sin unto death the second death time is the sin against the Holy Ghost. It comes about with not any one sin, but with [any] sin unrepentantly done over & over again while we know it to be sin. (see James 1:15's END of sin that brings forth death) Try thinking of it this way?? I know that it is a sin to steal, I also know that Christ died and suffered for this sin also. In that sense, I caused Him 'Open' suffering if I steal. See Heb. 6:6. Yet, we can be sure that God will give anyone much time to repent! Compare Gen. 6:3 for the pre/flood ones.

OK: But If I just kept on stealing, most know that it would get easier to do with each passing theft. Before long, my conscience would not be able to be reached by the Holy Spirit 'convicting me'! Rom. 8:14. And it is the same with any and all sin's regardless if they be be by me commiting them {knowingly} by commission, or doing so by OMISSION. (such as preachers remaining quiet with known false teaching's are being taught) This was what David in Psalms 19:13 was telling us 'persumptous sin' leads to.. the 'Great Transgression'.

--Elijah

 

[Vic C.]

HI Elijah,

I'm not certain the great transgression is the unforgivable sin. A couple of things stood out in this verse.

KJV- Psa 19:13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

I thought, how could a sin be presumptuous and if a sin is presumptuous, wouldn't all sin be presumptuous? Next, in most translations, the word sins is in italics. So I checked some other versions and noticed that Young rendered the verse this way:

YLT- 13Also -- from presumptuous ones keep back Thy servant, Let them not rule over me, Then am I perfect, And declared innocent of much transgression,

Rotherham translated it this way:

Even from the presumptuous, keep back thy servant, May they not have dominion over me, Then, shall I be blameless, and shall be acquitted from great transgression:

Net Bible:

19:13 Moreover, keep me from committing flagrant sins;
do not allow such sins to control me. Then I will be blameless,
and innocent of blatant rebellion.

They use the word sin, but replace transgression with [rebellion]. Young used [much transgression] Now I was scratching my head until I found this:

http://www.shangralafamilyfun.com/Bible ... salm19.txt

Psalm 19: 13 -- Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins [men];
let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall
be innocent from the great transgression.

Again in this verse we have a word added by the translators that is
incorrect. The word 'sins' should be 'men'. We ask God to keep us away
from presumptuous (prideful) men, so they do not have dominion over us.
Then we will walk uprightly, and be declared innocent of transgression,
which is rebellion against God.

That ties it all together. Sin should be [men, presumptuous ones, the presumptuous] and transgression is nothing more than [rebellion], which isn't blasphemy of the Spirit, but is forgivable.

 

[Elijah674]

1 John 5:16-17 says that there is a sin unto death & a sin not unto death for the Christian. All sin leads to death the first time. The sin unto death the second death time is the sin against the Holy Ghost. It comes about with not any one sin, but with [any] sin unrepentantly done over & over again while we know it to be sin. (see James 1:15's END of sin that brings forth death) Try thinking of it this way?? I know that it is a sin to steal, I also know that Christ died and suffered for this sin also. In that sense, I caused Him 'Open' suffering if I steal. See Heb. 6:6. Yet, we can be sure that God will give anyone much time to repent! Compare Gen. 6:3 for the pre/flood ones.

OK: But If I just kept on stealing, most know that it would get easier to do with each passing theft. Before long, my conscience would not be able to be reached by the Holy Spirit 'convicting me'! Rom. 8:14. And it is the same with any and all sin's regardless if they be be by me commiting them {knowingly} by commission, or doing so by OMISSION. (such as preachers remaining quiet with known false teaching's are being taught) This was what David in Psalms 19:13 was telling us 'persumptous sin' leads to.. the 'Great Transgression'.

--Elijah

HI Elijah,

I'm not certain the great transgression is the unforgivable sin. A couple of things stood out in this verse.

KJV- Psa 19:13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

I thought, how could a sin be presumptuous and if a sin is presumptuous, wouldn't all sin be presumptuous? Next, in most translations, the word sins is in italics. So I checked some other versions and noticed that Young rendered the verse this way:

[quote:1u3jn86v]YLT- 13Also -- from presumptuous ones keep back Thy servant, Let them not rule over me, Then am I perfect, And declared innocent of much transgression,

Rotherham translated it this way:

Even from the presumptuous, keep back thy servant, May they not have dominion over me, Then, shall I be blameless, and shall be acquitted from great transgression:

Net Bible:

19:13 Moreover, keep me from committing flagrant sins;
do not allow such sins to control me. Then I will be blameless,
and innocent of blatant rebellion.

They use the word sin, but replace transgression with [rebellion]. Young used [much transgression] Now I was scratching my head until I found this:

http://www.shangralafamilyfun.com/Bible ... salm19.txt

Psalm 19: 13 -- Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins [men];
let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall
be innocent from the great transgression.

Again in this verse we have a word added by the translators that is
incorrect. The word 'sins' should be 'men'. We ask God to keep us away
from presumptuous (prideful) men, so they do not have dominion over us.
Then we will walk uprightly, and be declared innocent of transgression,
which is rebellion against God.

That ties it all together. Sin should be [men, presumptuous ones, the presumptuous] and transgression is nothing more than [rebellion], which isn't blasphemy of the Spirit, but is forgivable.[/quote:1u3jn86v]
Wow Vic, I told you a few years back that I thought that you missed your calling, huh? And that could be presumption if known?? Anyway, it seems that you found a translation that you like? Does one just pick translations like some do different verses?? How does one figure Matt. 4:4 & 2 Tim. 3:16 out of that???? And the Luke 12:47-48 ones also?? (and who cares whether it is men, women of Jews, Gentils or whoever?? PRESUMPTION is the KNOWING OF ANY SIN THAT QUESCHES & GRIEVES the Holy Spirit that is TRYING TO [LEAD] the Born Again one, if they are Born Again in the first place? Rom. 8:14, Eph. 4:30, 1 Thess. 5:19.

Anyway, the other post on top of your splendid 'hop skip & pick! that I posted also tell's of a sin not unto death (at its start) & then 'a Great Transgression' likewise.. unto death. (build/up in MATURE FINISH! James 1:15)

But whatever?? 'i' am just passing through! ;) (the place looks as moderated as ever. :nod )

---Elijah

 

[AnnieHere]

Judas is an example of someone who was foreordained to this sin. Loving mammon more than God and betraying Jesus and his family. The Judas principle is like the one man who came into the wedding feast with his own clothing of unbelief concerning the purpose of God in the priesthood of Jesus. Annanias and Saphirra are another example of lying to the holy Spirit, when they lied concerning the money they had promised.

Achan loved mammon, but when confronted with his sin, he confessed his sin and accepted the punishment from his brethren. The valley of Achor is a door of hope. We have all sinned this sin and come short of the glory of God. When God reproves us, he gives us repentance and the promise of forgiveness, as God gave to King David when he numbered Israel. God has now revealed that his repentance and forgiveness is given to us in Jesus, his holy child, whom he raised from the dead, a priest forever after the order of Melchizedec, in whom he has made us accepted IN the Beloved, without money and without price(tithe and required offering).

Joe

Hi Joe, :amen

I enjoyed your post. You have given us examples of sinning but still....none of them are unforgiveable. Judas himself repented....is he condemned? I don't know.

There is only one sin that will not be forgiven.

Judas, the son of perdition was lost:

"While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled."
-John 17:12

 

[Elijah674]

In Acts 7:58 through Acts 9:18 Saul (Paul) had just received letter's no doubt for the killing of Stephen. So it makes sense that when Christ 'met' Saul on the road Damascus & said that it was hard for him (Saul) to kick against the pricks, (of the Holy Spirit) and that he was persecuting Jesus through His (organized) Church. See from Acts 8:1-3 on to where Stephen had finally been murdered, then there can be no doubt that Saul was at his supposed trial and heard the TESTIMONY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FILLED STEPHEN also? (Acts 8:55) This was the pricking that Christ was referring of late to. I say 'of late', because Saul was a devote Jew and ALL THE SEED had been sown before hand. (Psalms 77:13)

Now: I would not venture to know how close Saul came to the sin against the Holy Ghost? Yet, this was CHRIST TALKING WITH SAUL PERSON TO PERSON! And, Saul could have gone either direction in making a FATAL [MATURE] DECISION. (see Gen. 4:7) Even such as the Rich young ruler had? Perhaps Saul replaced him? Think of Saul from a real killer, to a few verses later, and of becoming Born Again?? See if you can [locate how it came about]!! (Acts 9:6)

Another thought is, why did not Christ just speak the Words of healing to the 'blinded' Saul?? Christ had just a short time earlier gave the 'keys to ZION'S HEAVENLY KINGDOM' to HIS ESTABLISHED CHURCH! And that is where Saul was COMMANDED to go to be TOLD WHAT 'YOU MUST DO') Again, NO LOOSE CANNONS SEEN HERE!!

---Elijah

 

[Joe67]

The experience of Ananias and his wife Sapphira concerning the price of the property that they held back in their donation seems good to mention.

Acts 5:3,9
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. KJV

Judas, the son of perdition, fell in connection with the money factor.

In Revelation the beast that comes out of the pit, goes into perdition. The last trials are concerning buying and selling our Lord.

Joe

 

[Elijah674]

Post removed for double posting? --Elijah

 

[Elijah674]

Hi, Elijah here:
Your 'post' of Acts 5 about Ananias & Sapphira was the time of the Early Rain FULLNESS of the Holy Spirit. Such as Christ HIMSELF IN PERSON speaking to Cain in Gen. 4:7, or His mission to HIS True Virgin Fold in His Person! (our time of MATURITY) Or such as Nathan to David (2 Sam. 12:1-14) or Christ Himself to Peter in Luke 22:31-34 & of course Saul (Paul) as had been previously mentioned making his FINAL MATURE CHOICE. (as 'i' see it)

Yet, your two of Acts 2 on ones finds Christ was NO LONGER in person with His central 'restricted' power in one location as God, (compare Gen. 1:28-30's lost domain to satan) but this was the 'Early Rain time' as Christ sent the Holy Spirit back to UPLIFT HIMSELF everywhere 'present'. And these TWO WERE AMONG THE ONES THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN THE HOLY SPIRIT as seen here from Acts 5:32. Their sin was that MATURE DECISION to make, while in FULL KNOWLEDGE! (as was Cain, David & Saul) Check anothers?? King Saul was GIVEN THE HOLY SPIRIT, and King Saul had the Holy Spirit leave him! And then we see the witch of Endor 'enter King Saul's life'. (1 Sam. 11:6 & 1 Sam. 16:14 & ibid 28:5-6)


And about repentance?? It must be Godly Repentance for us to be Saved. Any repentance such as Judas & even the 2 resurection of the wicked + satan admitting that the Godhead is supreme saves NO ONE!

But your verses of Acts two tell's us that these two + all of us.. that being Born Again is JUST THE STARTING POINT of STAYING IN CHRIST! Rom. 8:1, Heb. 6:6, 2 Peter 2:19-22. (Phil. 4:13 & 2 Cor. 12:9)

Just a reminder to ponder?? In Gen. 2:15-17 we see God again stating a 'fact' & in chapter 3:4 we se satan CALLING GOD A LIAR. And today, we see most of all these in of Rev. 17:5 ones TEACHING satans first lie. And as knowledge increases as in Hosea 4:6??? So does 'our' FREE CHOICE OF RESPONSIBILITY! Gen. 6:3.